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Post by ravey123 on May 11, 2024 8:58:21 GMT
I think there will be some interest in him, he looks like he could be a top player in time. Just a case of whether he’s steady and gets another twelve months under his belt with us that should make him a very easy fit for the premier league, or whether he chases the money and is happy to be a bit part in a lower premier league team next season. I’d like to think he’s got his head screwed on right and it will be the former, but I’d be gutted if he ended up somewhere like Bournemouth. I could see him at Brighton or Brentford. How much did we pay for him - was it around £1m. I’d turn £10m down now. If he improves even more next season he will either be sold for £25m + or be playing for Stoke in the premier League 25/26 season. I can see a similar scenario for Manhoef too.
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Post by starkiller on May 11, 2024 9:56:39 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling.
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Post by werrington on May 11, 2024 10:04:28 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. If a premiership club offers serious money and a player wants to triple his wages then reality sets in We are where we are and it’s the football food chain
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2024 10:06:30 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. We're miles off a serious promotion push, talking automatically not trying to sneak a play off spot which we are still way off. we might get all of next season to enjoy Junho and hopefully we are in a far better state but at that point in all probability he will be sold Trick is to extract top dollar, sell ons, buy back clause etc and have a list of players to replace him with Do think JC will be very reluctant to sell him but if he continues to shine, and adds goals, the pl money will come around
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Post by Biblical on May 11, 2024 10:20:01 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. The money would get reinvested though wouldn’t it. Bringing in the likes of Bae and then selling them on for a nice profit is exactly what we should be doing.
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on May 11, 2024 10:28:56 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. The money would get reinvested though wouldn’t it. Bringing in the likes of Bae and then selling them on for a nice profit is exactly what we should be doing. Absolutely, Bae deserves to go as far as he can. It’s a win win really, another year of his talent or 10 mil to reinvest in the squad… maybe more if it’s a club like arsenal
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Post by Scrotnig on May 11, 2024 10:33:23 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. At the moment all we’re serious about for next season is avoiding relegation more comfortably than we just did. That’s our reality, we’re shit. Small steps.
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Post by metalhead on May 11, 2024 10:37:56 GMT
I'd be looking at extending his contract and giving him a pay rise. Get him really inspired.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 11, 2024 10:45:49 GMT
He will be going nowhere.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2024 10:59:54 GMT
I'll be very surprised if either of Jun Ho or Burger are here next season, and Manhoef the season after.
They're good players and will attract interest from parachute clubs at least.
Our challenge is to keep Jared in and around those markets to reinvest when they do go and resist the temptation to blow it on the 'good old British lads'. If we can do that consistently then the owners can either keep up with funding the maximum losses and we can spend more, or fund less losses and continue to spend what we do now.
It's a well trodden path that we're about to go on with loads of examples of how it's done right.
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Post by i1da on May 11, 2024 11:25:07 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. At the moment all we’re serious about for next season is avoiding relegation more comfortably than we just did. That’s our reality, we’re shit. Small steps. Nonsense! Remember Leicester? Sure fire relegation to Champions in 18 months? There is a belief in the core of this team. Yes, we're not the finished article, and need a few key additions, but....... I'd be very disappointed if we are not top 10 next season (by definition challenging for a playoff spot) and a little disappointed if we don't make the playoffs. C'Mon Stoke, bring back the excitement!
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Post by desman2 on May 11, 2024 11:31:55 GMT
I think if Tottenham were sniffing around he might have a look. Doesn't his role model play there who might just be the incentive.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 11, 2024 11:34:04 GMT
If we can hang on to players like,Bae,Burger & Manhoof,for 2 more seasons,they could well be playing in the Prem with Stoke.
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Post by tuum on May 11, 2024 12:04:56 GMT
At the moment all we’re serious about for next season is avoiding relegation more comfortably than we just did. That’s our reality, we’re shit. Small steps. Nonsense! Remember Leicester? Sure fire relegation to Champions in 18 months? There is a belief in the core of this team. Yes, we're not the finished article, and need a few key additions, but....... I'd be very disappointed if we are not top 10 next season (by definition challenging for a playoff spot) and a little disappointed if we don't make the playoffs. C'Mon Stoke, bring back the excitement! Bookies early odds have us 10th. Sheff Utd and Middlesbro' are the favourites. Coventry and Portsmouth for play offs. Plymouth and PNE at the bottom. Doesn't include teams who can still go up or down. Take it all with a pinch of salt.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 11, 2024 12:17:47 GMT
At the moment all we’re serious about for next season is avoiding relegation more comfortably than we just did. That’s our reality, we’re shit. Small steps. Nonsense! Remember Leicester? Sure fire relegation to Champions in 18 months? There is a belief in the core of this team. Yes, we're not the finished article, and need a few key additions, but....... I'd be very disappointed if we are not top 10 next season (by definition challenging for a playoff spot) and a little disappointed if we don't make the playoffs. C'Mon Stoke, bring back the excitement! I’d love to agree but we said all this last year. Leicester had dropped a division so it’s not a fair comparison. Unfortunately they also showed how we should have done it when we came down.
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Post by thicknthin on May 11, 2024 12:46:37 GMT
The money would get reinvested though wouldn’t it. Bringing in the likes of Bae and then selling them on for a nice profit is exactly what we should be doing. Absolutely, Bae deserves to go as far as he can. It’s a win win really, another year of his talent or 10 mil to reinvest in the squad… maybe more if it’s a club like arsenal He’s worth what someone will pay, however I would suggest that as Stoke don’t need the money if he is to go, it it would require silly can’t turn it down money and that will be a lot more than £10m. For me It needs to be a Championship record fee, given his age and potential, and we won’t get that for another season at least.
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Post by jordan2009 on May 11, 2024 12:56:01 GMT
His stats won't attract the Premier league clubs.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 11, 2024 14:58:05 GMT
His stats won't attract the Premier league clubs. Or maybe their scouts are like me and use the "eye test" which he passes with flying colours... this boy WILL be Premier League level. It's only a matter of time.
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Post by roylandstoke on May 11, 2024 15:10:37 GMT
Nonsense! Remember Leicester? Sure fire relegation to Champions in 18 months? There is a belief in the core of this team. Yes, we're not the finished article, and need a few key additions, but....... I'd be very disappointed if we are not top 10 next season (by definition challenging for a playoff spot) and a little disappointed if we don't make the playoffs. C'Mon Stoke, bring back the excitement! I’d love to agree but we said all this last year. Leicester had dropped a division so it’s not a fair comparison. Unfortunately they also showed how we should have done it when we came down. Leicester we’re favourites for relegation, before winning 7 of their last 9 in 2015. They won the Premier League in 2016.
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Post by i1da on May 11, 2024 20:30:33 GMT
Nonsense! Remember Leicester? Sure fire relegation to Champions in 18 months? There is a belief in the core of this team. Yes, we're not the finished article, and need a few key additions, but....... I'd be very disappointed if we are not top 10 next season (by definition challenging for a playoff spot) and a little disappointed if we don't make the playoffs. C'Mon Stoke, bring back the excitement! I’d love to agree but we said all this last year. Leicester had dropped a division so it’s not a fair comparison. Unfortunately they also showed how we should have done it when we came down. Errr, I'm talking about Leicester the year before they won the Premiership. But to your point, we failed last season so we should never expect to progress ever again? Is that what you're saying? I expect us to be top 10 next season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2024 21:30:36 GMT
Think I’d still be more worried a Bundesliga club want him. He’d do so well in it.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 11, 2024 21:44:21 GMT
I’d love to agree but we said all this last year. Leicester had dropped a division so it’s not a fair comparison. Unfortunately they also showed how we should have done it when we came down. Errr, I'm talking about Leicester the year before they won the Premiership. But to your point, we failed last season so we should never expect to progress ever again? Is that what you're saying? I expect us to be top 10 next season. Of course we can progress, but it’s going to be slow. I think the gap between leaving and rejoining the top flight will be longer than it was last time. In eight years all we’ve achieved is very nearly going down to the third tier. Let’s not forget that.
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Post by MilanStokie on May 11, 2024 21:48:11 GMT
If we are serious about getting out of this league, we shouldn't be selling. If a premiership club offers serious money and a player wants to triple his wages then reality sets in We are where we are and it’s the football food chain It's absolutely the right thing to do as well. However, we need to get the correct value from it. I'd like to think we have adapted enough now that we wouldn't sell our biggest assets on the cheap anymore. Buy low, develop, sell high. Money invested in the academy and we are already seeing some bright talents, again that we will eventually sell for the academy to pay it's way. Eventually we will get back to the Premier League just like Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth have using such a model and as a result, the club (not as much Bet 365) will be much healthier financially.
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Post by telfordstokie on May 11, 2024 22:33:49 GMT
His stats won't attract the Premier league clubs. Think and hope we’ll get another season out of him for exactly this reason. We’d want decent money for him and he looks like a punt for an PL club based on the lack of goals and assists so far - suspect top clubs will want to see him turn his potential into consistent returns before they move for him.
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Post by i1da on May 12, 2024 23:24:25 GMT
Errr, I'm talking about Leicester the year before they won the Premiership. But to your point, we failed last season so we should never expect to progress ever again? Is that what you're saying? I expect us to be top 10 next season. Of course we can progress, but it’s going to be slow. I think the gap between leaving and rejoining the top flight will be longer than it was last time. In eight years all we’ve achieved is very nearly going down to the third tier. Let’s not forget that. Taking us back to my original comment "Remember Leicester City? From relegation certainties in December to winning the Premiership 18 months later."
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Post by atillathehoneybee on May 13, 2024 5:31:36 GMT
Nonsense! Remember Leicester? Sure fire relegation to Champions in 18 months? There is a belief in the core of this team. Yes, we're not the finished article, and need a few key additions, but....... I'd be very disappointed if we are not top 10 next season (by definition challenging for a playoff spot) and a little disappointed if we don't make the playoffs. C'Mon Stoke, bring back the excitement! Bookies early odds have us 10th. Sheff Utd and Middlesbro' are the favourites. Coventry and Portsmouth for play offs. Plymouth and PNE at the bottom. Doesn't include teams who can still go up or down. Take it all with a pinch of salt. Sheff Utd joint favourite, fookin hell , they are garbage, I might be inclined to put a tenner on em going down. The only team that will prosper of the 3 relegated will be Burnley and I cant see it being a cake walk for them either..
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Post by atillathehoneybee on May 13, 2024 5:34:45 GMT
Errr, I'm talking about Leicester the year before they won the Premiership. But to your point, we failed last season so we should never expect to progress ever again? Is that what you're saying? I expect us to be top 10 next season. Of course we can progress, but it’s going to be slow. I think the gap between leaving and rejoining the top flight will be longer than it was last time. In eight years all we’ve achieved is very nearly going down to the third tier. Let’s not forget that. 8 years since what...
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Post by jordan2009 on May 13, 2024 6:06:10 GMT
His stats won't attract the Premier league clubs. Or maybe their scouts are like me and use the "eye test" which he passes with flying colours... this boy WILL be Premier League level. It's only a matter of time. I agree with you, he's turned in some really good performances. He's been the shining light in a shit season. However outside of this message board and the bet365 on a match day, there's very little talk of him. I doubt premier league scouts have been to watch him, they'veprobably not been alerted to him yet due to his stats. He improves his output next season then it'll be very hard keep him here next summer.
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Post by MilanStokie on May 13, 2024 6:34:07 GMT
Top clubs spend silly money on players with massive potential and trust in their coaches to develop them.
They don't all buy/want the finished article every time, that costs way more and creates issues in their squad for game time.
It would be extremely naive to think that in 2024, a player who just completed a full season in the championship for fairly well known team continentally, additional games back in his own country making it over 70 games this "season" and who's broken through internationally, albeit under 23s, is going to fly under everyone's radar.
We might be lucky to avoid significant bids this summer but there is no doubt in my mind multiple elite clubs are all over this. He's just the kind of player Brighton would chuck 15m at.
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Post by bertiestan on May 13, 2024 7:05:51 GMT
Or maybe their scouts are like me and use the "eye test" which he passes with flying colours... this boy WILL be Premier League level. It's only a matter of time. I agree with you, he's turned in some really good performances. He's been the shining light in a shit season. However outside of this message board and the bet365 on a match day, there's very little talk of him. I doubt premier league scouts have been to watch him, they'veprobably not been alerted to him yet due to his stats. He improves his output next season then it'll be very hard keep him here next summer. He’s just got player of the year at a championship club…of course clubs will be aware of him🔴⚪️
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