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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 6:52:07 GMT
I think it is too early for either to get a big move, but if they develop and adapt to the English game further, we could be looking at big money for both. Jun ho in particular is a Rolls Royce of a player. We havent had one of those since Steven N'Zonzi. Bae would benefit from another season here, especially if we start to get our act together. That said, I could understand a promoted club having a look at him for their tilt at next year's PL. Jacob Brown went for £5m-plus despite the fact he couldn't control a ball.
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Post by baconburger on Apr 29, 2024 7:04:47 GMT
Will be a miracle if him and Burger are still here next season. Burger will be here I think, Patchy end of season due to suspension May have kept him under the radar. Jun ho, I don’t think will go either. Next January maybe, if we have a good start and he performs well may see interest. They both have issues to overcome Junho on output and Burger on going 90 mins without flagging. I don’t see offers coming in anywhere near the level that would tempt us to cash in. Both need at least one more season of progress.
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Post by baconburger on Apr 29, 2024 7:11:19 GMT
I think it is too early for either to get a big move, but if they develop and adapt to the English game further, we could be looking at big money for both. Jun ho in particular is a Rolls Royce of a player. We havent had one of those since Steven N'Zonzi. Bae would benefit from another season here, especially if we start to get our act together. That said, I could understand a promoted club having a look at him for their tilt at next year's PL. Jacob Brown went for £5m-plus despite the fact he couldn't control a ball. I don’t think his output stats are good enough to attract or warrant it. That’s not doing him down I think he’s super but there’s still plenty of room for improvement in the outcomes of his impressive play much of which will go completely under the radar of recruitment teams. I think Burger is closer to being ready to step up. If he could maintain his first half performances for a whole game he’s too good for this level.
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Post by lordb on Apr 29, 2024 7:25:28 GMT
What's the plan for him next season? Move him inside behind the striker or keep him wide left?
If moving inside we have to get a quality left sided player in and would also be even more overloaded with central players than we already are
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 29, 2024 7:27:56 GMT
Both players will stay now we've secured Championship football, barring ridiculous offers.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 7:44:05 GMT
What's the plan for him next season? Move him inside behind the striker or keep him wide left? If moving inside we have to get a quality left sided player in and would also be even more overloaded with central players than we already are His decision making is the big barrier to him being the 10 for all his energy strength and touch his game influencing contributions remain fairly marginal. He's absolutely part of the future but it's the key missing ingredient.
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Post by lordb on Apr 29, 2024 7:44:40 GMT
What's the plan for him next season? Move him inside behind the striker or keep him wide left? If moving inside we have to get a quality left sided player in and would also be even more overloaded with central players than we already are His decision making is the big barrier to him being the 10 for all his energy strength and touch his game influencing contributions remain fairly marginal. He's absolutely part of the future but it's the key missing ingredient. At 20 that's only going to get better
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 29, 2024 7:58:12 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him.
And get him out of Fucking Hanley.
Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich...
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Post by baconburger on Apr 29, 2024 8:17:07 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... Nantwich? It’s far closer to Crewe.
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Post by Absolution on Apr 29, 2024 8:18:14 GMT
The price a player achieves can often be massively influenced by hype. I'm sure we can all think of players who've left Stoke for peanuts because there was no 'buzz' around them, something I think Southampton were the absolute masters of creating for their players to inflate transfer fees 10-20 years ago.
Bae Jun-ho is a player that there's a bit of a buzz around that we could capitalise on in the next year or so. If we wanted to.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 29, 2024 9:50:09 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... Wychwood is a bit remote not sure if he drives although the Broughton Arms. a decent gastro pub is walking distance. But i agree get him out of Hanley. In years gone by young players used to lodge with someone from the club even the manager. Maybe Schuey has a spare room
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 29, 2024 9:52:59 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... I would have thought that the club would have helped him to find somewhere suitable when he first came over. I know he has his mum with him but can you imagine arriving in a foreign country, not speaking the language and trying to find somewhere to live? Perhaps they wanted to be a short drive from the ground, near shops, cafes, buses etc rather than in the middle of Cheshire? Could have thought of better towns to suggest though
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 29, 2024 9:56:57 GMT
Seems to be a fad in football of moving players from a club where they're progressing nicely and placing them at a club at the same level where they don't do so well. I ask you what was the point in Wolves moving Cundle from Plymouth to Stoke mid season? Wolves had/have serious financial problems and Stoke were paying a bigger package to ease their burden Add to that he was also going to rejoin the manager who had made him so successful at Plymouth so it made plenty of sense to them both financially and their asset progression I have a very hazy memory of it being said that Stoke wanted an option to buy and this was part of the reason Wolves preferred Stoke. Is that not the case? Plus the proximity of Stoke to Wolves makes it much easier to keep in touch for both him and the club
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 9:59:08 GMT
Think Burger might move on. Call me an old cynic but his performances have dipped since the alleged Sheffield United scouting of him. I wouldn't be surprised if a deal has already been done and he's just ticking over till the summer. Hope my radar is wrong though as think he could be worth a fortune after a second season here.
Bae will be here I'm sure unless a promoted team fancies a punt on him, or a Palace or Brighton fancy a moneyball type punt on him.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 10:07:25 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... There is a bit of a trend for players living in urban flats at the minute a lot of the bigger teams do it , a lot of Blackburn players live in the centre of manchester now i am not saying hanley is the same just that proximity and walking distance , urban life style might be the key desires for him .i don’t believe the club would be lacking in their duty of care to see him settled domestically as best as possible for a start it compromises their investment and the chairman loves him .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 10:15:59 GMT
What's the plan for him next season? Move him inside behind the striker or keep him wide left? If moving inside we have to get a quality left sided player in and would also be even more overloaded with central players than we already are I see him just staying out wide. I’m not opposed to the idea, especially if we finally bring in a mobile target man who can hold the ball up long enough for him and Million to attack.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 10:17:35 GMT
Think Burger might move on. Call me an old cynic but his performances have dipped since the alleged Sheffield United scouting of him. I wouldn't be surprised if a deal has already been done and he's just ticking over till the summer. Hope my radar is wrong though as think he could be worth a fortune after a second season here. Bae will be here I'm sure unless a promoted team fancies a punt on him, or a Palace or Brighton fancy a moneyball type punt on him. I’d be shocked, personally. He hasn’t done enough. He stood out for a number of games but even then, he blew hot and cold. His goals and assists have been crap and he has been part of a defensive unit that was prone to conceding soft goals. I don’t see us selling any of our better players this season. Mostly because they haven’t actually been that good.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 29, 2024 10:27:15 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... There is a bit of a trend for players living in urban flats at the minute a lot of the bigger teams do it , a lot of Blackburn players live in the centre of manchester now i am not saying hanley is the same just that proximity and walking distance , urban life style might be the key desires for him .i don’t believe the club would be lacking in their duty of care to see him settled domestically as best as possible for a start it compromises their investment and the chairman loves him . I get that...But FOOKIN HANLEY... I dare say a few of our players live in Alderley Edge/Wilmslow, and there are some great apartments there...Would be easy for him to get a ride in, or even use Dennise's big chopper.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 29, 2024 10:30:14 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... Nantwich? It’s far closer to Crewe. Oh right, sorry. Wychwood Park is only 6 miles from Crewe as opposed to being 8 Miles from Nantwich, though it does depend which part of Whycwood, and by the same token which part of Nantwich/Crewe, but if it helps I will in future pay a lot more attention to detail, sorry If I upset you.
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Post by baconburger on Apr 29, 2024 11:10:04 GMT
Nantwich? It’s far closer to Crewe. Oh right, sorry. Wychwood Park is only 6 miles from Crewe as opposed to being 8 Miles from Nantwich, though it does depend which part of Whycwood, and by the same token which part of Nantwich/Crewe, but if it helps I will in future pay a lot more attention to detail, sorry If I upset you. Not at all I'm more confused by why Nantwich is held in such significance. It's on loads of road signs that don't even mention Crewe yet Crewe is miles bigger. Definitely not upset though more curious. Answers on a post card.
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Post by davethebass on Apr 29, 2024 18:36:46 GMT
Agreed, I think it's a good thing, seen a few of his vlogs, I enjoy them even though I don't understand Korean. 147k subscribers, including me! Great VLog The South Korean sub titles were great as I am fluent in Greek. Seriously though.Worth a watch. Think he's got a good camera unlike me..Only just found out Jun-ho gave his shirt away.. Yeah it's great, deffo worth a watch. And yeah them South Korean subtitles are all Greek to me lol Yeah noticed he gave his shirt away... That's one of the things I like about his vlogs, he shows so much of the interaction between players, and between players and fans, before, during, and after the games. I like to see all that...and like the convo between Stevens and Junho on the pitch, where Stevens is giving him all the tactical advice, gave a good insight into how Stevens is so helpful to the team, with his experience. One of the things that really annoys me about match coverage on ITV or channel 4 is the way they cut to adverts so soon after the final whistle so you miss most of the post match stuff.
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Post by davethebass on Apr 29, 2024 18:42:54 GMT
Go to the bottom of the post, click the little wheel, click auto generated subtitles which appear in Korean (more Korean), click again and you can select your language. Sadly there's no Stokie but we can pick English, second set off subtitles in English appear...auto generated so a bit hit and miss but much better than nothing....good luck! Thank you sir!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 19:01:16 GMT
He’s due a good rest, looked done in last game. Played too much over the last 12 months plus a big culture change.
Get him home to family for a break and bring him back fresh legged and ready to go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 19:03:29 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... I never understood why the club didn’t buy some of the new builds on Stanley Matthews way and have new players house sharing to help settle down until they get their own place sorted. Pocket change to the bet365 group.
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Post by lordb on Apr 29, 2024 19:27:33 GMT
I'd seriously build a team around him. And get him out of Fucking Hanley. Pretty sure the club own a couple of houses on Wychwood Park near Nantwich... I never understood why the club didn’t buy some of the new builds on Stanley Matthews way and have new players house sharing to help settle down until they get their own place sorted. Pocket change to the bet365 group. Gifton lived down there
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 29, 2024 20:41:09 GMT
I’m surprised he lives up Hanley but not surprised he doesn’t live in suburban England.
He’s from a country with a high density living generally and is young so you’d think would want to be close to things. A flat in Manchester would make sense.
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Post by stokest5 on Apr 29, 2024 21:32:19 GMT
I’m surprised he lives up Hanley but not surprised he doesn’t live in suburban England. He’s from a country with a high density living generally and is young so you’d think would want to be close to things. A flat in Manchester would make sense. I’ve commented on this before. By the looks of his posts on social media he does also have an apartment in Manchester.
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Post by Discovery Stoke on Apr 30, 2024 7:32:11 GMT
I’m surprised he lives up Hanley but not surprised he doesn’t live in suburban England. He’s from a country with a high density living generally and is young so you’d think would want to be close to things. A flat in Manchester would make sense. I’ve commented on this before. By the looks of his posts on social media he does also have an apartment in Manchester. I did think 'where on earth can that be' when in his interview he said he lives in a nice apartment 10 minutes from CW.... Certainly didn't expect it to be opposite the underground/Tesco.... Poor bloke. Maybe he enjoys a daily trip to the museum and admiring the spitfire. In regards to players living close by.... Souttar used to live in the new estate at the bottom of Stanley Matthews Way.
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Post by misterj on Apr 30, 2024 12:09:15 GMT
Yes, in terms of where he’s living, it’s a really big own goal by the club - surely they could have advised him towards Trentham Lakes/Trentham/Westbury Park/Stone etc!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 30, 2024 16:24:12 GMT
What if he actually likes it?
The apartments themselves are nice and generally the people that live there are young professionals.
Hanley isn’t the best but it still has decent places to go and far more suited to a 20 year old than living in Clayton or something.
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