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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 26, 2023 16:06:37 GMT
Never mind get a draw, how have we not won that second half? We played them off the park in that second half and on another day we would have won that three to four one. Burger looks a beast and Leris looks really good. You might have beaten us today Millwall but the jokes on you as you have to watch that boring useless twat Gary Rowett's boring shit football for the rest of the season so enjoy that.
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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 26, 2023 16:06:40 GMT
65% possession. Have to say their CB Cooper was very good. Not sure we got the better of him once
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Post by meirman61 on Aug 26, 2023 16:06:42 GMT
Mmae has offered nothing again Better 2nd half - Burger, Pearson and Ty especially Mae really isn't very good , don't give me all that bollox about bedding in.
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Post by headsgoup on Aug 26, 2023 16:06:44 GMT
5-3-fucking-2 isn't just shit and boring to watch but lost us any chance at points today too. And it doesn't provide width unless you've got Usain Bolt one side and Linford Christie the other. I don't know how a professional football manager can't see that.
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Post by chamberlain on Aug 26, 2023 16:06:52 GMT
Blame Neil for that , that's both away games he's had to change things .You cannot play for 45 minutes and expect to win a game .
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 16:06:56 GMT
Any chance we can play on the front foot from the start in the away games please Alex.
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:02 GMT
Fair play, we were rotten first half but I thought we showed real signs of potential in the second half. Vidigal looks much better out wide for me & Campbell made a massive difference (even though he was wasteful on a few occasions).
Frustrating to lose but I thought we have it a real go and should’ve got a point out of the game at least.
Positives were Burger who looks different class. Leris had a really solid half too. Good to see Campbell back & I thought the change of shape suited Johnson.
We have to play that formation from now on, as we looked a really decent outfit, just maybe missing that cutting edge.
Negatives were the whole midfield in the first half. All of them were abysmal. Hoever was all over the place, but the defence looked really shaky.
However Neil removes the shackles and we don’t worry about other teams. We have the players to hurt the opposition, but we look abit vulnerable defensively, so may aswell get at them.
Overall I’m positive though. Such fine margins and on another day we’d been walking away with at least a point.
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Post by StokieNath on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:06 GMT
I’ll drive Tymon to Leeds or Swansea me sen, no bother at all
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:12 GMT
Mmae has offered nothing again Better 2nd half - Burger, Pearson and Ty especially Leris looked good too Some good signs going forward defo. Little bit naive defensively, but he's not a RB tbf! Good edition overall hopefully 👍🏼
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Post by everyoneneedsawhelan on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:26 GMT
Start with that second half team and we will win more games than lose. Cant believe the lack of effort of some of them, if you’re not arsed then leave the club
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Post by nott1 on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:26 GMT
One of them days… if Vidigal puts that sitter away I think we would have gone onto win it today. However, The loss & first half performance is on AN today. Shambolic starting line up & Millwall could have been out of sight by half time. Positives… Burger looks quality, not sure on Leris as their number 22 seemed to skim him a few times. Another routine 3 points for Millwall at the den from us unfortunately. We too many of those days though! We threw it away by laziness from the start
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Post by logdog on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:36 GMT
We had a shit team in the first half (spine of last year's team) - yes its on AN for picking it but then he changed it at half time and it was night and day the difference. Disappointing result, but lots of positives to take from the second half team and performance. Don’t come on here spouting that positivity nonsense, young man… It will be crushed at the first opportunity!
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:39 GMT
As pissed off as I was at half-time, lots to like about the second half. If not a battering, very close to it. It's not going to be plain sailing to bed in a new team, but reasonably encouraging. I think something that’s being overlooked aswell is AN is learning the players and if the new players are up for it. He’d have no way of knowing if Burger was up for it today for example. So went with Thompson, to be safe.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 26, 2023 16:07:41 GMT
Hopefully that first half will stand us in good stead for the rest of the season. If Neal hasn’t learnt what does and what doesn’t work for us after that then he never will.
Thompson, Tymon and Lauren should be moved on before the window closes, I don’t even want any of them as back up. And we desperately need a competent right back.
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 26, 2023 16:08:04 GMT
It's not a disaster. It's disappointing.
Main take home for me, is still how poor many players remaining from last year are. Thommo, Tymon, Laurent - all looked very poor.
2nd half and the new signings - only one team was in it. Millwall hung on by their scruffy nails.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 26, 2023 16:08:08 GMT
When did we last beat a Rowett side?
The twat always seems to beat us 1-0 like Pulis did.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 26, 2023 16:08:18 GMT
65% possession. Have to say their CB Cooper was very good. Not sure we got the better of him once He is exactly what we need at the back.
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Post by march4 on Aug 26, 2023 16:08:37 GMT
Mmae has offered nothing again Better 2nd half - Burger, Pearson and Ty especially Leris looked good too Burger and Leris look like good signings. Vidigal is a really sharp striker but looks vulnerable to opposition cloggers. Keep him fit and goals will flow. Not impressed by Wesley and less impressed by Mmaee. McNally was getting bullied too which surprised me. Stevens had another solid game. Travers is a very good goalkeeper.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 26, 2023 16:09:09 GMT
Gutted but superb second half. Unfortunately just a bit wasteful.
We have to go with a CM of Burger, Pearson, Johnson from now on. No agenda just clear to see. They’re better on the ball, move it faster, read the game better.
Burger looks a class player based on that half. Can’t help thinking we still need a goalscorer to put the chances away though. Thought Campbell played well when he came on but his shootings shocking.
Thought the ref was poor. No big mistakes but some petty bookings and seemed to not want to punish them for time wasting and some heavy challenges. If we finish below Millwall come the end of the season there’s a problem.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 26, 2023 16:09:24 GMT
Put a goalscorer in that team to lead the line and we will be a dangerous team. A commanding centre half as well March?
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 26, 2023 16:09:47 GMT
Mmae has offered nothing again Better 2nd half - Burger, Pearson and Ty especially Mae really isn't very good , don't give me all that bollox about bedding in. Looks out of his depth/no confidence or just can't be arsed. Would be pleasantly surprised to see him turn it around. Hopefully a goal in the cup or something 👍🏼
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 26, 2023 16:09:52 GMT
I hope Burger is the player we think he is because our midfield is woeful.
Where is Pearson?
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Post by march4 on Aug 26, 2023 16:09:53 GMT
65% possession. Have to say their CB Cooper was very good. Not sure we got the better of him once He is exactly what we need for our CB signing.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 26, 2023 16:10:03 GMT
Absolute tactical naivety from Neil. Sunday league stuff, really. 11 Ladas have beaten 11 Porsches. The second half team wins that at a canter. An absolute canter. Hard to say. Millwall stopped battling and just sat back. They did exactly what they always do. They got a goal from a set piece and when they realized they weren’t getting another in the first half, they decided that was basically enough. I’m excited to see more of Burger and Leris though. I think that Campbell-Wesley-Vidigal has a lot of promise.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Aug 26, 2023 16:10:11 GMT
When did we last beat a Rowett side? The twat always seems to beat us 1-0 like Pulis did. Didn’t we beat them a few years ago? Brown scored and Bonham saved a pen from Jed Wallace if I’m not wrong?
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Post by 4372stokie on Aug 26, 2023 16:10:26 GMT
Awful then superb. Once sort things out with all these we will be a decent side. Some good footballers been signed. It’s still very very very early.
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Post by stokie23 on Aug 26, 2023 16:10:29 GMT
Never been more enthused after a defeat. Fantastic second half, new boys look unreal !
Give the lads time, will come good this!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 26, 2023 16:10:50 GMT
Patience is the key. But my worry is after 14 signings there are still a lot of areas of the squad that feel neglected, we need a left sided centre back, a left back and a striker. After that it’s over to the manager, there can be very few excuses once they’ve all bedded in… I don't think we've been too bad at left back, Stevens has been better than I thought he'd be tbh.
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Post by march4 on Aug 26, 2023 16:10:58 GMT
Gutted but superb second half. Unfortunately just a bit wasteful. We have to go with a CM of Burger, Pearson, Johnson from now on. No agenda just clear to see. They’re better on the ball, move it faster, read the game better. Burger looks a class player based on that half. Can’t help thinking we still need a goalscorer to put the chances away though. Thought Campbell played well when he came on but his shootings shocking. Thought the ref was poor. No big mistakes but some petty bookings and seemed to not want to punish them for time wasting and some heavy challenges. If we finish below Millwall come the end of the season there’s a problem. Spot on, mate. And the refs will offer no protection at all.
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 26, 2023 16:11:39 GMT
I hope Burger is the player we think he is because our midfield is woeful. Where is Pearson? Pearson (when he was brought on) had a good 2nd half. The quality difference between him and Thommo was night and day.
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