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Post by prestwichpotter on May 26, 2023 20:27:30 GMT
£13.6m on 14 players.
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Post by firfuxache on May 26, 2023 20:30:11 GMT
The problem then becomes getting work permits as we’re no longing in Europe. Not sure how effected that side of things is. Shopping abroad in the majority does seem to bring better value for money as you state. That’s what the scouts/head of recruitment is for. What’s the point in paying them a wage if they aren’t sorting this shit out re work permits etc? I could go and watch some fucker in League One and say he’s good Easy tiger, I wasn’t picking apart your reply just simply wondering where we stood on the work permit side of things. As for Head of Recruitment, has that been sorted yet. Suppose that’ll get a tasty response too. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 26, 2023 20:34:56 GMT
That’s what the scouts/head of recruitment is for. What’s the point in paying them a wage if they aren’t sorting this shit out re work permits etc? I could go and watch some fucker in League One and say he’s good Easy tiger, I wasn’t picking apart your reply just simply wondering where we stood on the work permit side of things. As for Head of Recruitment, has that been sorted yet. Suppose that’ll get a tasty response too. Haha wasnt being feisty mate just trying to get my head around things. It’s annoying nobody really knows where we stand isn’t it? |
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Post by firfuxache on May 26, 2023 20:39:51 GMT
Easy tiger, I wasn’t picking apart your reply just simply wondering where we stood on the work permit side of things. As for Head of Recruitment, has that been sorted yet. Suppose that’ll get a tasty response too. Haha wasnt being feisty mate just trying to get my head around things. It’s annoying nobody really knows where we stand isn’t it? I’m sure things behind the scenes are already in motion and as per usual us fans are desperate to know what’s happening. I keep having to remind myself that the domestic season isn’t over yet (even though ours effectively ended in April). I do feel somewhat confident that AN will put together a decent squad for next season but then I’ll probably end up deflated when things don’t pan out the right way. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 26, 2023 20:43:21 GMT
Haha wasnt being feisty mate just trying to get my head around things. It’s annoying nobody really knows where we stand isn’t it? I’m sure things behind the scenes are already in motion and as per usual us fans are desperate to know what’s happening. I keep having to remind myself that the domestic season isn’t over yet (even though ours effectively ended in April). I do feel somewhat confident that AN will put together a decent squad for next season but then I’ll probably end up deflated when things don’t pan out the right way. That’s where I am mate. Optimistic and pessimistic in equal measure! I guess everybody just has to give the manager a chance at this point which I’m absolutely prepared to do. But the fan base are seriously impatient now so let’s hope for a good start to the next season. For now I’m just going to forget about football and enjoy the summer without the 5.45 feeling for a while😉 |
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Post by independent on May 26, 2023 21:48:10 GMT
I'd say 15-20 million. If we are increasing our wage bill 15. If not then 20 million. Surely we can get 6 reliable freebies and pay fees for another 6 and finish in 8-10th spot. If we are doing well in January then he may be allowed to spend another 5 million. Alledgedly we have 15m from the Souttar transfer and we can have a loss of 13m a year for FFP. 20m spent would count as less than 7m a year for FFP purposes, We are even in a position to pay the total fee for a player upfront which will probably enable us to get a lower fee as getting all the money immediately would appeal to most of the cash strapped clubs we will be dealing with.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 26, 2023 22:07:57 GMT
Where would all of these spending tallies sit on an all-time table of Second Division spending tallies? For context, our net spend after coming down was £30,000,000, with £55,000,000 of spending.
I'd be terrified if we hit 50% of the Rowett spendathon. It would be a huge gamble.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 26, 2023 22:39:26 GMT
I don't think we'll be spending as much as people think on transfer fees, a lot of the available money will be used on signing on fees and high end championship wages.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 26, 2023 23:10:42 GMT
Around about 15M I reckon. Lots of cheap freebies, we'll max out our loans and can see maybe 4/5 players at 2-3M. If were going to do that we need to shop abroad, the British market is ridiculously inflated for average players Don't they need international caps or something else special to get a visa nowadays? |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 26, 2023 23:18:10 GMT
The problem then becomes getting work permits as we’re no longing in Europe. Not sure how effected that side of things is. Shopping abroad in the majority does seem to bring better value for money as you state. That’s what the scouts/head of recruitment is for. What’s the point in paying them a wage if they aren’t sorting this shit out re work permits etc? I could go and watch some fucker in League One and say he’s good We don’t have a head of recruitment, do we? I thought that the old one was going and we hadn’t yet sorted out a replacement? |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 26, 2023 23:19:40 GMT
I'd say 15-20 million. If we are increasing our wage bill 15. If not then 20 million. Surely we can get 6 reliable freebies and pay fees for another 6 and finish in 8-10th spot. If we are doing well in January then he may be allowed to spend another 5 million. Alledgedly we have 15m from the Souttar transfer and we can have a loss of 13m a year for FFP. 20m spent would count as less than 7m a year for FFP purposes, We are even in a position to pay the total fee for a player upfront which will probably enable us to get a lower fee as getting all the money immediately would appeal to most of the cash strapped clubs we will be dealing with. If we are spending 20 million, I’d expect nothing less than challenging for promotion. We’d likely be the biggest spenders in the league. |
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Post by gawa on May 27, 2023 1:28:59 GMT
How ever much it takes to get Michael O'Neil to sign a new 4 year contract.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 27, 2023 2:29:39 GMT
5m. I think we’ll go down the released players on good deals route and loans.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 27, 2023 4:13:18 GMT
I don't care about whether we get promoted or relegated as long as we spend loads of money. If we get stung by ffp rules in a few years it doesn't matter. We can enjoy the fact we spent the money.
There's no point otherwise.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 27, 2023 5:30:45 GMT
I don't care about whether we get promoted or relegated as long as we spend loads of money. If we get stung by ffp rules in a few years it doesn't matter. We can enjoy the fact we spent the money. There's no point otherwise. “…… OK John…..now run along and tidy your Lego up, there’s a good boy !” |
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Post by DC1863 on May 27, 2023 5:45:45 GMT
If we were spending anything north of £15m I would personally expect one or two of our only sellable assets to leave - Tymon & Ty.
To go out and spend 25+ would surely set us on a course to potentially breach FFP again in a few years time? Leaving us with little to no wriggle room for future windows.
Unless the plan is to gamble on winning promotion this season, which, given our recent history, seems unwise.
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Post by sportsman on May 27, 2023 6:14:56 GMT
Well they did say we'd have a budget competitive with those coming down didn't they?
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Post by theonlooker on May 27, 2023 6:16:52 GMT
Well they did say we'd have a budget competitive with those coming down didn't they? No they didn't. They said we'd be as competitive as the rest of the division outside of the parachute clubs, which also rules us out of the clubs that came down and haven't gone back up like Norwich and Watford. |
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Post by s7oke on May 27, 2023 6:24:09 GMT
I was hoping for a chelseaesqe signing spree 😂😂
Realistically I think 10 million and a load of freebies and loans
I can see Pearson costing us 4 million
So it doesn’t leave a lot left
But that’s a good thing as I don’t trust him to spend big as he has a bit of the Gary Rowett about him 😱
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Post by ohbottom on May 27, 2023 6:31:39 GMT
180 million on 6 rock-the-city signings, all of whom will be on the long-term injury list by October
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Post by theonlooker on May 27, 2023 6:33:35 GMT
I was hoping for a chelseaesqe signing spree 😂😂 Realistically I think 10 million and a load of freebies and loans I can see Pearson costing us 4 million So it doesn’t leave a lot left But that’s a good thing as I don’t trust him to spend big as he has a bit of the Gary Rowett about him 😱 If we sign him on a 3 year deal, it leaves quite a lot left... |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 27, 2023 7:54:55 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/2023/may/04/press-conference-watford/ In the pre-last game press conference, he appears to suggest the wage budget will be the same next season as this - a result of the season-on-season downscaling since relegation. (about 19:50 in) Obviously redistributing the Powell wage will go a hell of a long way in this environment. And the Clucas wage, to an extent, although his renegotiation/extension supposedly brought him within (or closer to at least ) the new more frugal wage policy. The likes of Fox, Jagielka, Flint etc won't have been on top money, although Fox was a Bosman so probably wasn't on peanuts. All the loanees were possibly relatively cheap, depending on what wage arrangements we had. But we were probably making very decent contributions to Tuanzebe, Celina and Pearson? He does though reflexively shake his head when Angela Smith suggests a fan expectation of "many millions" being spent (about 7:00) If I had to guess, I'd plump for 3-4 frees, paying fees for 4-5 and 2-3 loans. With a transfer fee spend somewhere between 10-15.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on May 27, 2023 8:11:28 GMT
Andrus Iniesta is available for just his signing on fee
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Post by Glasgowstokie on May 27, 2023 8:20:49 GMT
Why do most people think there's going to be less than ten million spent given everything that's been said? Not sure what people are thinking?
I expect there is the Souttar money plus we should be willing to go over the annual 13 million loss allowance for this year given we have a whole squad to buy.
25-30 million easy but don't think we'll give anyone a big transfer fee over 5 million.
I can see a few million on Pearson, another few on a striker. Another few on a keeper.
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Post by lordb on May 27, 2023 8:23:41 GMT
Tbh I don't really care how much, just want good signings
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Post by wazbagsbro on May 27, 2023 8:39:23 GMT
I’m hoping / suspect we attracted the Manager on the strength of Bet365 going full on promotion this year , money will be available and as much as is allowed. Hope I’m right
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Post by wakeypotter on May 27, 2023 8:50:41 GMT
How ever much it takes to get Michael O'Neil to sign a new 4 year contract. He will be going back to Brechin before back here mate Hope that shrine is still looking good 👍 |
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Post by sportsman on May 27, 2023 8:53:56 GMT
The plan I'd guess is to try get up in the maximum of 3 years. Spend well and what's needed to achieve it and if we go up no worries of ffp
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Post by Glasgowstokie on May 27, 2023 9:02:32 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/2023/may/04/press-conference-watford/ In the pre-last game press conference, he appears to suggest the wage budget will be the same next season as this - a result of the season-on-season downscaling since relegation. (about 19:50 in) Obviously redistributing the Powell wage will go a hell of a long way in this environment. And the Clucas wage, to an extent, although his renegotiation/extension supposedly brought him within (or closer to at least ) the new more frugal wage policy. The likes of Fox, Jagielka, Flint etc won't have been on top money, although Fox was a Bosman so probably wasn't on peanuts. All the loanees were possibly relatively cheap, depending on what wage arrangements we had. But we were probably making very decent contributions to Tuanzebe, Celina and Pearson? He does though reflexively shake his head when Angela Smith suggests a fan expectation of "many millions" being spent (about 7:00) If I had to guess, I'd plump for 3-4 frees, paying fees for 4-5 and 2-3 loans. With a transfer fee spend somewhere between 10-15. The ogbene transfer is crucial. He needs that signing desperately if he is going to put his plan into action. If he doesn't get Ogbene I can't see how we can avoid spending a significant transfer fee on such a key position. The club have no choice but to back the manager this summer |
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Post by sportsman on May 27, 2023 9:05:45 GMT
I don't suppose they're going come out and say there's millions to spend and a really good wage budget even if there is to be one
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