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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 24, 2023 21:20:55 GMT
I don’t know if we’ve ever really got to the bottom of it, but if it was just Hughes it makes you wonder what the point was of MC. I think we pretty much have haven’t we? Hughes has suggested he was surprised by just how much the manager was expected to do here. Cartwright has said he was part of a team but wasn’t going out and signing players and certainly wasn’t foisting them on a manager without his express approval. It was Hughes who wanted Wimmer and Berahino and Imbula seemed to be signed on the strength of that Porto friendly. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on May 24, 2023 21:45:56 GMT
I don’t know if we’ve ever really got to the bottom of it, but if it was just Hughes it makes you wonder what the point was of MC. I think we pretty much have haven’t we? Hughes has suggested he was surprised by just how much the manager was expected to do here. Cartwright has said he was part of a team but wasn’t going out and signing players and certainly wasn’t foisting them on a manager without his express approval. It was Hughes who wanted Wimmer and Berahino and Imbula seemed to be signed on the strength of that Porto friendly. Yeah, by all accounts Cartwright was very much against the Wimmer signing but was overruled by Hughes And I say that as someone who looks back on Hughes’ tenure favourably Not saying Cartwright was great but he probably gets more shit thrown at him than is warranted |
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Post by generationex on May 24, 2023 22:05:55 GMT
It’s all a bit ‘success has many fathers but failure is a bastard’.
The appointment of Cartwright was a known issue for Pulis and if he had nothing to do with recruitment it still leaves the question of why he was here and why rock the boat.
Don’t get me wrong : I blame Hughes for the catastrophe that followed but the arrival of MC was the choice of John Coates and the first hint of the muddled thinking that followed.
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Post by DansViews on May 24, 2023 22:09:57 GMT
That night at Stenhousemuir
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 24, 2023 22:32:21 GMT
It’s all a bit ‘success has many fathers but failure is a bastard’. The appointment of Cartwright was a known issue for Pulis and if he had nothing to do with recruitment it still leaves the question of why he was here and why rock the boat. Don’t get me wrong : I blame Hughes for the catastrophe that followed but the arrival of MC was the choice of John Coates and the first hint of the muddled thinking that followed. The boat needed rocking though didn’t it? Let’s not pretend we were merrily cruising along hunky dory until Cartwright was appointed out of nowhere. |
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Post by ashtonstokie on May 25, 2023 4:52:07 GMT
Butland lobbing the ball in his own net away at Leicester. 1 up through shaq and it felt pretty comfortable until that mad moment.
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Post by pretzel on May 25, 2023 5:52:11 GMT
Banksy's car crash
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Post by noustie on May 25, 2023 6:39:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2023 7:06:23 GMT
None. Football means very little compared to what it used to do, so it's all a bit "meh" nowadays. The most gutted I've ever been at a football match was the 1-0 home defeat to Leicester in the play-offs mid 90's. That bothered me for years, but not anymore thank fuck  |
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Post by noustie on May 25, 2023 8:21:24 GMT
None. Football means very little compared to what it used to do, so it's all a bit "meh" nowadays. The most gutted I've ever been at a football match was the 1-0 home defeat to Leicester in the play-offs mid 90's. That bothered me for years, but not anymore thank fuck Neil Lennon's smug popcorn teeth coupon still haunts my dreams. Gary Parker was quality that game. I barely give a fuck these days either. Last time was probably Scotland women leading 3-0 v Argentina and going through only to completely fuck it up 3-3 |
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Post by kjpt140v on May 25, 2023 19:14:55 GMT
In recent years it has to be when Arnie did the Irons sign across his chest after scoring for West Ham. A much older memory was when the ball got stuck in the mud at Vale Park. Non Stoke related still has to be Italia '90 and going out to Germany in the semi's. I think the Iron's cross was bitter but,in hindsight, seeing Arnoutivic sucking as much money as could out of clubs, including WHU, dilutes his demonstration as it has turned out to be meaningless. |
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Post by kjpt140v on May 25, 2023 19:16:36 GMT
Arsenal's comeback at Hillsborough in 72. I believe we had a great chance of winning the cup that year.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2023 20:13:10 GMT
I've also just remembered the friendly match between England and Australia where Sven brought on 11 subs at half time. I had watched every live England on TV (and occasionally in person) for 15 years before that but walked out of the pub furious before the game ended.
Now I only watch in the latter parts of tournaments. The enthusiasm drained out of me and I didn't miss it.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 25, 2023 20:18:23 GMT
Kenwyne missing his 1 on 1 with Joe Hart in the cup final. Peter Thorne's hat-trick for Cardiff in 2003 absolutely broke my young heart. Thorne hitting the post(?) early on before the 8-0 drubbing v Liverpool. In my memory he was on his arse and still got the shot away. Nuneaton. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 25, 2023 22:40:54 GMT
Kenwyne missing his 1 on 1 with Joe Hart in the cup final. Peter Thorne's hat-trick for Cardiff in 2003 absolutely broke my young heart. Thorne hitting the post(?) early on before the 8-0 drubbing v Liverpool. In my memory he was on his arse and still got the shit away. Nuneaton. Yep it was Thorne and it happened exactly as described, horrid! |
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Post by J-Roar on May 25, 2023 23:17:02 GMT
Shawcross getting hung out to dry vs Ibrahimovic by Hodgson. Was so proud to see a Stoke player playing for England and then that happened.
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Post by mrteddysalad on May 25, 2023 23:33:15 GMT
Every second of watching this club the last 5 years
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Post by maine on May 26, 2023 1:39:16 GMT
Two 'words' 'Peter' and 'Storey'-for two reasons,
1/ 'That disgusting' foul probably preventing a definitive goal
2/ Having the gall to convert Arsenals' pen.
Awful, awful memory.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 26, 2023 5:37:14 GMT
Loads. But here's a small selection in no particular order
Blyth Spartans.
The Shawcy Ramsey thing. if there's one Stoke city thing I, with all my heart, wish had never happened, it's that. For all sorts of reasons.
Seeing in the paper we'd sold Jimmy. Although looking at Twitter it's nice to know how much fans from that era revere him.
The 2006 world cup exit. There's a tournament exit every two years, and I at no point gave us a hope of lifting the gold fucker, but for some reason that one shattered me.
Losing at home to Chester 91/92. That just shouldn't have happened
More to follow....
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 27, 2023 17:45:43 GMT
It wasn’t the actual in play thing but many years ago, think it was 1964, me and my Vale mate went to Vale park to watch FA Cup 4th round replay vs Liverpool. 11 years old, we stood in Hamil Road end behind the goals about half way up the terraces. Suddenly, just before kick off, there was an almighty crush from pushing from behind because scousers had broken down the exit gate and were pouring onto the terraces. We were carried forward on a wave of fans and lifted to safety by a copper and spent the whole game sat on the touch line. Now, had there been caging like Hillsborough I know I would not be here now and that still haunts me.
During the Independent Hillsborough Inquiry the Bishop of Liverpool asked for witness statements regarding events at previous games and I sent my experience stating that the lack of caging almost certainly contributed to our safe extrication from the terraces of the Hamil End. I don’t think the terrace caging was high on their agenda and thus received no reply.
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Post by damo on May 27, 2023 20:13:02 GMT
Same speech, one year later. Be about 1972 - my dad said do you fancy going to a football match - yes I replied wondering if it would be Old Trafford or the equally adjacent Anfield - I’ll show you where I used to stand when I used to go to Stoke was his response. It’s haunted me ever since. |
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Post by Marc01 on May 27, 2023 20:20:57 GMT
In recent years it has to be when Arnie did the Irons sign across his chest after scoring for West Ham. A much older memory was when the ball got stuck in the mud at Vale Park. Non Stoke related still has to be Italia '90 and going out to Germany in the semi's. The IRONy of that from Arnautovic was that 2.5 years prior, he was having a bit of a run in with West Ham supporters at Upton Park in this game, where he scored in the 95th minute: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32179965 |
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Post by Kewstokie on May 27, 2023 20:25:06 GMT
Tony Currie masterclass at Bramall Lane towards the end of the 74/75 season. You just knew the title bid was over.
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Post by Ron on May 27, 2023 22:30:17 GMT
Charlie Adam’s fluffed penalty against Brighton. One kick sent us down. now now… a lot more than that sent us down. |
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Post by outspaced on May 27, 2023 22:48:02 GMT
The Bradford fire. The single most horrific thing I've ever seen at an English football match. I watched the video of it on YouTube with John Helm commentating and I've not watched it again since. Truly harrowing.
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Post by maxplonk on May 30, 2023 7:18:13 GMT
Was Kenwyn not clean through with just the keeper to beat at Wembley, probably my only chance in my lifetime to see Stoke win a major trophy?? Score that and we don't lose...... Never watched a replay or highlights of that game, never will. Yes, this. And an almost identical situation at Valencia. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 30, 2023 8:12:03 GMT
Was Kenwyn not clean through with just the keeper to beat at Wembley, probably my only chance in my lifetime to see Stoke win a major trophy?? Score that and we don't lose...... Never watched a replay or highlights of that game, never will. Yes, this. And an almost identical situation at Valencia. Never watched the cup final since and never will but even that isn’t as bad as arsenal at hillsboro scared for life as 10 year old |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 30, 2023 12:26:04 GMT
None. Football means very little compared to what it used to do, so it's all a bit "meh" nowadays. The most gutted I've ever been at a football match was the 1-0 home defeat to Leicester in the play-offs mid 90's. That bothered me for years, but not anymore thank fuck Completely agree on all levels. That said, I still think it's hard to watch Gascoigne not quite getting his boot to the ball v Germany in 96! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 30, 2023 21:06:39 GMT
The employment of Mark Cartwright and the rationale behind the appointment The rationale behind the appointment was fine even if the personnel wasn’t. Mark Cartwright isn’t the reason for our downfall however much the cult of Tony would like to believe it. As far as haunting moments: The Bojan and Fuller injuries The Potter miss in the play offs The red cards coming out for Clarke and Kavanagh MVG hitting the post Paul Conor hitting the post at Gillingham as well in the game you reference. That goes in and we go through in sheff wed sized turn arounds |
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Post by willieeetmiout on May 30, 2023 21:27:35 GMT
I was at the England v Germany semi at Wembley on the side right in line with the goal line. I can still see Gascoigne making a run into the box, checking back for a millisecond and missing that tap in by a whisker. Aaaaarghhhh This for me I think. Nothing else comes close. |
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