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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 25, 2023 12:10:13 GMT
Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. Nike must be producing some of the worst designs ever. Adidas would probably be a template and they can’t get past the fact that you have to have the 3 stripes down the arms, which just fks up a striped kit. I’m sure puma are making bespoke kits too? I’m not a fan of Castore kit designs. Hummel are doing some decent stuff at the minute I think. I’d love to see a retro Umbro kit tbh. Castore costs a fortune and have been blighted by supply and quality issues. I wouldn't go near them unless they can guarantee they've sorted it especially as they look to increase their market share. Joma, Errea, le Coq Sportif, Mizuno, Asics (the last 2 have a very small presence in the football kit market currently) are all brands that look to make bespoke kits irrespective of the size of the account I'd be happy with any of them in that respect...... |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 25, 2023 12:12:24 GMT
How do you know the Macron deal wasn't financially the best deal compared to some of those suppliers in question though? Also why the disrespect for Macron as a brand they are clearly on the up especially in sports such as football and rugby? You talk about Hummel and Cambridge, one of my lads is an Everton fan as I've mentioned before and the quality of the training gear is not a patch on Stoke's Macron offering and Everton will be one of Hummel's flagship accounts. Macron record revenues 2022Macron may well be the best deal but do you honestly have confidence that the commercial team at Stoke are getting the best overall value from a deal (I dont). As for quality then fair point however I continue to wear my New Balance hoody that is light years ahead quality wise from the tat training wear Macron produce. You were one of the lucky ones, quality gear is great but if it's not available to buy it's pretty pointless. The merits of the commercial team is another debate, part of the current issue will be we're not a flag ship account for any of the big players so the deal has a pretty low ceiling anyway I would say........ |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jul 25, 2023 12:33:47 GMT
Similar to the Lyon home kit. That’s a quality piece. Just seen Inter kit - they just know how to vary their stripes each year. |
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Post by callas12 on Jul 25, 2023 13:21:00 GMT
Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. Nike must be producing some of the worst designs ever. Adidas would probably be a template and they can’t get past the fact that you have to have the 3 stripes down the arms, which just fks up a striped kit. I’m sure puma are making bespoke kits too? I’m not a fan of Castore kit designs. Hummel are doing some decent stuff at the minute I think. I’d love to see a retro Umbro kit tbh. Anyone for Hi-Tec!! They've been quiet for a while 😉🤣 Or even a return to Admiral perhaps?! Top 70's and 80's kit manufacturers they were |
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Post by andylgr on Jul 25, 2023 13:44:47 GMT
Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. Nike must be producing some of the worst designs ever. Adidas would probably be a template and they can’t get past the fact that you have to have the 3 stripes down the arms, which just fks up a striped kit. I’m sure puma are making bespoke kits too? I’m not a fan of Castore kit designs. Hummel are doing some decent stuff at the minute I think. I’d love to see a retro Umbro kit tbh. Anyone for Hi-Tec!! They've been quiet for a while 😉🤣 Or even a return to Admiral perhaps?! Top 70's and 80's kit manufacturers they were Don’t forget Scoreline. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 25, 2023 14:25:14 GMT
Well put. Whilst a majority want a big brand (Nike, Adidas, Puma…), all you’ll get it a kit thats that same as 10 or so other teams are wearing. At the time I was happy with Adidas but looking back their kits were largely forgettable. At least with the ‘second tier’ manufacturers like Macron, Joma, Hummel, ect… they put in the design work to produce something the is synonymous/unique to the club. I work in Procurement and there is a well know quote often credited to Deming 'You get the supplier you deserve' If Stoke had the right people managing their suppliers / potential suppliers I am pretty sure they would get a level of interest and service from many of either the larger or up and coming suppliers (Cambridge for example had a great Hummel kit / training wear and now have a lovely Umbro offering which I know through a personal contact is pretty much down to their supplier relationship management abilities) I get the point abound Macron but standards have slipped so do what all good buyers do - Get out there and see whats available rather than lazily renew the current deal. What standards have slipped? You just seem to be stating it as fact that Macron aren't good enough, when in fact (as pointed out) the kits they've provided have been well-designed, incredibly popular, decent quality and there haven't been any major supply issues I'm aware of. I don't get what your issue is other than the fact that they're not a big fashionable brand (which, in our experience, tend to treat us like something they've stepped in). |
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 25, 2023 14:30:41 GMT
Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. Nike must be producing some of the worst designs ever. Adidas would probably be a template and they can’t get past the fact that you have to have the 3 stripes down the arms, which just fks up a striped kit. I’m sure puma are making bespoke kits too? I’m not a fan of Castore kit designs. Hummel are doing some decent stuff at the minute I think. I’d love to see a retro Umbro kit tbh. Nike and Adidas both produce absolutely dreadful kit designs - if they ever had their finger on the pulse it's been well and truly removed. They should both stick to making tennis shoes. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jul 25, 2023 15:34:16 GMT
Many people forgetting the company that has made some of the best kits of the last few years and also possibly our best ever one - Umbro.
Image that 1979 diamond-armed beauty in 2024. Now that would sell shedloads. And a simple, stuuning away kit, like the West Ham one would do.
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Post by slash on Jul 25, 2023 17:21:41 GMT
last time we wore blue and yellow was promotion season away? roll it back lads we're going to the top!
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 25, 2023 17:43:09 GMT
last time we wore blue and yellow was promotion season away? roll it back lads we're going to the top! That abomination was 1st Prem season |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 17:45:06 GMT
last time we wore blue and yellow was promotion season away? roll it back lads we're going to the top! That abomination was 1st Prem season That was a horrific kit, which went well with our away form that year  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 25, 2023 17:47:11 GMT
That abomination was 1st Prem season That was a horrific kit, which went well with our away form that year Dave Kitson looked horrible in that kit with his orange bonce and transparent skin |
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 25, 2023 17:59:58 GMT
That abomination was 1st Prem season That was a horrific kit, which went well with our away form that year It reached peak vomit induction that game we had to wear it with red shorts, dear god. Can’t remember who it was against but I’m still having nightmares about it |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 18:00:21 GMT
That was a horrific kit, which went well with our away form that year Dave Kitson looked horrible in that kit with his orange bonce and transparent skin He did as well  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 18:03:03 GMT
That was a horrific kit, which went well with our away form that year It reached peak vomit induction that game we had to wear it with red shorts, dear god. Can’t remember who it was against but I’m still having nightmares about it I can remember us playing Grimsby away in the old yellow Ansells sash kit with red shorts and socks back in the very early 90's, but cannot remember the game you're on about |
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Post by st3mark on Jul 25, 2023 18:40:27 GMT
That was a horrific kit, which went well with our away form that year Dave Kitson looked horrible in that kit with his orange bonce and transparent skin He looked horrible in all our kits. |
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Post by Bod on Jul 25, 2023 19:13:26 GMT
Many people forgetting the company that has made some of the best kits of the last few years and also possibly our best ever one - Umbro. Image that 1979 diamond-armed beauty in 2024. Now that would sell shedloads. And a simple, stuuning away kit, like the West Ham one would do. Is there a problem with sales at the moment? It’s a genuine question. I don’t think that any type of ‘Holy Grail’ kit (which doesn’t exist due to the subjective nature of the area) is going to move numbers in a stratospheric direction. The 79 shirt is easily my favourite, but I would guess we are of a similar age, and there is more wrapped up in it than the shirt itself. That appeal isn’t there for everyone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 19:28:50 GMT
Many people forgetting the company that has made some of the best kits of the last few years and also possibly our best ever one - Umbro. Image that 1979 diamond-armed beauty in 2024. Now that would sell shedloads. And a simple, stuuning away kit, like the West Ham one would do. Is there a problem with sales at the moment? It’s a genuine question. I don’t think that any type of ‘Holy Grail’ kit (which doesn’t exist due to the subjective nature of the area) is going to move numbers in a stratospheric direction. The 79 shirt is easily my favourite, but I would guess we are of a similar age, and there is more wrapped up in it than the shirt itself. That appeal isn’t there for everyone. Excellent point. Most of the people who buy shirts won't have any clue about the umbro shirt Bunny has referenced. It's a classic for those of us of a certain age, but I'd imagine that this seasons away number has gone down a treat with the younger generation, just as the purple Ansells mess of a shirt did back in 92. |
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jul 25, 2023 19:30:58 GMT
Hummel is making the best kits right now, we should sign up with them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 19:34:46 GMT
Hummel is making the best kits right now, we should sign up with them Hummel have been making shit hot football kits since 1986, it's nothing new |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 25, 2023 19:38:30 GMT
Many people forgetting the company that has made some of the best kits of the last few years and also possibly our best ever one - Umbro. Image that 1979 diamond-armed beauty in 2024. Now that would sell shedloads. And a simple, stuuning away kit, like the West Ham one would do. I’ve got a burgany tracksuit I bought for winter jogging during Covid. Had the Umbro logo all down the sleeves and legs. I looked the business. After 15 minutes I was back home blowing out of my arse and the tracksuit is nowhere to be seen. For £19.99 it was an absolute steal. Anyway I digress….. |
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Post by andylgr on Jul 26, 2023 7:39:23 GMT
Many people forgetting the company that has made some of the best kits of the last few years and also possibly our best ever one - Umbro. Image that 1979 diamond-armed beauty in 2024. Now that would sell shedloads. And a simple, stuuning away kit, like the West Ham one would do. I’ve got a burgany tracksuit I bought for winter jogging during Covid. Had the Umbro logo all down the sleeves and legs. I looked the business. After 15 minutes I was back home blowing out of my arse and the tracksuit is nowhere to be seen. For £19.99 it was an absolute steal. Anyway I digress….. Sounds like a poundland Hugh Hefner outfit. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 26, 2023 7:45:13 GMT
I’ve got a burgany tracksuit I bought for winter jogging during Covid. Had the Umbro logo all down the sleeves and legs. I looked the business. After 15 minutes I was back home blowing out of my arse and the tracksuit is nowhere to be seen. For £19.99 it was an absolute steal. Anyway I digress….. Sounds like a poundland Hugh Hefner outfit. Yep pretty much spot on🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 7:49:10 GMT
Sounds like a poundland Hugh Hefner outfit. Yep pretty much spot on🤣 Without all the scantily clad women hanging around your gaff |
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Post by 01782 on Jul 26, 2023 9:20:41 GMT
Not as if I'm that arsed, but they should keep the white one with the sash as a third kit, and just knock another home amd away up. One of the away kits is blue, and the other is yellow.. |
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Post by andylgr on Jul 26, 2023 9:58:35 GMT
I’d totally forgotten how many yellow away kits we had from the mid 80s to the early 90s with hi-tec, admiral, scoreline and match winner. Those kits looked decent, as does the new macron one, it was just Le coq who messed it up when we got back in the prem.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2023 13:11:22 GMT
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jul 27, 2023 14:26:21 GMT
After going up the club shop yesterday, I rate the blue away as easily the best of the three close up. Indeed, I thought the yellow was very average and as for the home......last year's 3 kits absolutely hammer this season's.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 27, 2023 15:24:53 GMT
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Post by noustie on Jul 27, 2023 15:26:52 GMT
100 years since Dundee Hibernian became Dundee United. Never liked green tops apart from our green n black striped one and not much for this either really.
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