A few words from John Coates last night

[AlbertTatlock]

A friend of mine was in the boardroom dining suite and spoke to Simon King and John Coates on a couple of occasions last night.

Here what was said- Simon King said the Sale of Souttar fixed any questions over FFP, we need to get through this season and then there's a lot of optimism for next season, John wants to throw a lot of money at a push for promotion next season.

John Coates spoke to the group twice after that and said although it may sound daft right now but he was really excited about the direction we are going and that we will be going for it next season. Also said that Stoke are planning on scrapping the early bird season tickets for next season as too many people miss the window and the club feels it actively puts them puts people off afterwards and also some people won't because of principle, he didn't say exactly what was going to happen but did say it needs to be appealing to all.

Super Jon Walters and Simon Sturridge were there as well

Gouranga.

[PotterLog]

Made sweet love to Penelope Cruz last night.

Well not me,

[SuperRickyFuller]

I also spoke to John Coates last night.

Well not me but someone on The Oatcake did.

Well not them either but their friend did.

EDIT - Nice little edit there Albert

[stokeson]

I also spoke John Coates last night.

well not me but i had an oatcake.

well not an oatcake it was a pancake.

[Vadiation_Ribe]

I've been excited at the start of every season for a few seasons now, but I'm beginning to think of it as blind optimism.

I'm cautiously optimistic for next season, and lifting that FFP anchor should definitely help things.

[Gods]

So for anyone asking me what JC should say on a public statement, it's this kind of thing, what he is thinking, what is changing and reasons to be hopeful, if there are any. Not confine it to a few people at the dinner table.

[Deleted]

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:06 GMT Gods said:

So for anyone asking me what JC should say on a public statement, it's this kind of thing, what he is thinking, what is changing and reasons to be hopeful, if there are any. Not confine it to a few people at the dinner table.

By the sounds of it, he's thinking about making the same mistakes he did back in 2018!

[dirtclod]

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:51 GMT @theonlooker said:

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:06 GMT Gods said:

So for anyone asking me what JC should say on a public statement, it's this kind of thing, what he is thinking, what is changing and reasons to be hopeful, if there are any. Not confine it to a few people at the dinner table.

By the sounds of it, he's thinking about making the same mistakes he did back in 2018!

Have to admit that the pessimist in me thought that exact same thing when I first read the OP.
I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong and do have reasons to think it just might be different this time around. But yeah, knee-jerk? I thought the same.

[willieeetmiout]

I spoke to Simon Sturridge last night.

Turned out it was actually Jon Walters

[Deleted]

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:51 GMT @theonlooker said:

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:06 GMT Gods said:

So for anyone asking me what JC should say on a public statement, it's this kind of thing, what he is thinking, what is changing and reasons to be hopeful, if there are any. Not confine it to a few people at the dinner table.

By the sounds of it, he's thinking about making the same mistakes he did back in 2018!

We just have to hope that a manager who’s had close to a full season to assess/plan doesn’t fuck up like the previous ones. I have faith but it’s only faith. Would be foolish to have anything more than faith at this point.

[bunnyscfc]

Any words on how it worked out the last time he threw loads of shit at a wall?

[The Toxic Avenger]

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:06 GMT Gods said:

So for anyone asking me what JC should say on a public statement, it's this kind of thing, what he is thinking, what is changing and reasons to be hopeful, if there are any. Not confine it to a few people at the dinner table.

What, to reveal his evil plans out loud to the world, like a Bond villain?

Hi everyone, we'll be splashing the cash this summer, do feel free to charge a Stoke City premium won't you? It put another floor on Daniel Levy's house.

[chigstoke]

Mar 1, 2023 14:24:51 GMT bunnyscfc said:

Any words on how it worked out the last time he threw loads of shit at a wall?

"£50 Million? Gary Rowett? Sorry mate you must be confused"

[PotterLog]

Mar 1, 2023 13:48:12 GMT SuperRickyFuller said:

EDIT - Nice little edit there Albert

Barstad killed all my likes

[somersetstokie]

Mar 1, 2023 13:36:10 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

A friend of mine was in the boardroom dining suite and spoke to Simon King and John Coates on a couple of occasions last night.

Here what was said- Simon King said the Sale of Souttar fixed any questions over FFP, we need to get through this season and then there's a lot of optimism for next season, John wants to throw a lot of money at a push for promotion next season.

John Coates spoke to the group twice after that and said although it may sound daft right now but he was really excited about the direction we are going and that we will be going for it next season. Also said that Stoke are planning on scrapping the early bird season tickets for next season as too many people miss the window and the club feels it actively puts them puts people off afterwards and also some people won't because of principle, he didn't say exactly what was going to happen but did say it needs to be appealing to all.

Super Jon Walters and Simon Sturridge were there as well

Gouranga.

Was he not able to enlarge on that thought, and actually indicate what direction he thinks we are heading in?

[loosestools]

JC may be concerned about the uptake of Early Bird purchases given our current league position and the horrible March fixture list, hence his thoughts on scrapping the usual arrangements. A bit wait and see I reckon.

[somersetstokie]

Just try and get £50 a ticket and see how that goes.

[chumley]

Just stay open minded myself, i was took in by Nathan's rants and learnt to wait and see.

[Scouse]

Mar 1, 2023 15:42:28 GMT loosestools said:

JC may be concerned about the uptake of Early Bird purchases given our current league position and the horrible March fixture list, hence his thoughts on scrapping the usual arrangements. A bit wait and see I reckon.

In simple terms , Early bird has two main benifits .. 1) provides clubs with cash flow , and balances books for year end and FFP .. we don’t hopefully need either if a) if our sales have indeed cleared our FFP worries b ) the family underwrite the company accounts ( which they’ve demonstrated  previously ) and provides cash flow if required , including further work on the ground in the summer

In also ‘locks’ fans in with the inducement of reduced prices … particularly useful  if a team is in serious threat of relegation with nothing to lift the gloom

if the new COO has convinced the board that in our case early bird is merely marketing tool ..but that supporters are flat at present so take up will be sluggish at best … but competitive prices offered later combined with next seasons gloom lifter , marketing tool of a squad rebuild may mean there’s less need / benifit of an early bird window in March .. one concern is clubs use early bird to capture peoples money before they spend it in the summer ..But as many live in a world of flexible friend (debt ), loans and the never never , rather than save before spending , then competitive payment terms ( credit ) can offset that impact  

 

[neddy]

I think it would be a really good idea to delay early bird season ticket sales until we have more positivity!

Everyone seems to understand next season affords more hope so why not delay until after the season ends?

[s7oke]

Mar 1, 2023 14:24:51 GMT bunnyscfc said:

Any words on how it worked out the last time he threw loads of shit at a wall?

Messy
Actually fucking stinking shit messy !

[thebet365]

Mar 1, 2023 16:19:34 GMT Scouse said:

Mar 1, 2023 15:42:28 GMT loosestools said:

JC may be concerned about the uptake of Early Bird purchases given our current league position and the horrible March fixture list, hence his thoughts on scrapping the usual arrangements. A bit wait and see I reckon.

In simple terms , Early bird has two main benifits .. 1) provides clubs with cash flow , and balances books for year end and FFP .. we don’t hopefully need either if a) if our sales have indeed cleared our FFP worries b ) the family underwrite the company accounts ( which they’ve demonstrated  previously ) and provides cash flow if required , including further work on the ground in the summer

In also ‘locks’ fans in with the inducement of reduced prices … particularly useful  if a team is in serious threat of relegation with nothing to lift the gloom

if the new COO has convinced the board that in our case early bird is merely marketing tool ..but that supporters are flat at present so take up will be sluggish at best … but competitive prices offered later combined with next seasons gloom lifter , marketing tool of a squad rebuild may mean there’s less need / benifit of an early bird window in March .. one concern is clubs use early bird to capture peoples money before they spend it in the summer ..But as many live in a world of flexible friend (debt ), loans and the never never , rather than save before spending , then competitive payment terms ( credit ) can offset that impact  

 

I've no experience in football clubs accounts but I'd expect early bird income be treated as prepayment income because it's paying in advance for a service/entertainment(LOL) for the following season. That Income would be allocated to the following seasons P&L.

[Not_Nick_H]

Why do JC's thoughts on Season Tickets make me think there'll be an effective increase on its way....?

[AlbertTatlock]

Mar 1, 2023 15:27:22 GMT somersetstokie said:

Mar 1, 2023 13:36:10 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

A friend of mine was in the boardroom dining suite and spoke to Simon King and John Coates on a couple of occasions last night.

Here what was said- Simon King said the Sale of Souttar fixed any questions over FFP, we need to get through this season and then there's a lot of optimism for next season, John wants to throw a lot of money at a push for promotion next season.

John Coates spoke to the group twice after that and said although it may sound daft right now but he was really excited about the direction we are going and that we will be going for it next season. Also said that Stoke are planning on scrapping the early bird season tickets for next season as too many people miss the window and the club feels it actively puts them puts people off afterwards and also some people won't because of principle, he didn't say exactly what was going to happen but did say it needs to be appealing to all.

Super Jon Walters and Simon Sturridge were there as well

Gouranga.

Was he not able to enlarge on that thought, and actually indicate what direction he thinks we are heading in?

I don't know as I wasn't there and I've just posted what I was told. I'd be very surprised if he wanted to take us down so I'd take a wild guess that he was hoping we will be on the up soon.

Gouranga.

[cheadlepotter]

I spoke to John Coates on Saturday.

Well not spoke to him, but I was in the car behind him pulling into the ground at 2pm.

[iglugluk]

I've heard of Jon Coates but I've never met him.

[marwood]

I am John Coates and I spoke to myself last night

I told myself about a man in a pub who has really exciting ideas about how to run this football club. Watch this space as one of my mates in the pub said this good friend of his is out of work and excitable

[iglugluk]

Mar 1, 2023 20:04:50 GMT marwood said:

I am John Coates and I spoke to myself last night

I told myself about a man in a pub who has really exciting ideas about how to run this football club. Watch this space as one of my mates in the pub said this good friend of his is out of work and excitable

I am Mr N. Jones and I spoke to God last night .. tonight I'm going down the pub.
Any chance of a job?

[Deleted]

Mar 1, 2023 14:18:06 GMT Gods said:

So for anyone asking me what JC should say on a public statement, it's this kind of thing, what he is thinking, what is changing and reasons to be hopeful, if there are any. Not confine it to a few people at the dinner table.

Don't think it would be a good idea to publically announce the intention of splashing the cash (if true obviously).

[Jimm]

This time next year, we'll be millionaires