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Post by lordb on Mar 5, 2023 16:00:15 GMT
Is Gyokeres a target man? He'd get a much better move than us surely? And would cost a fortune? Exactly what we need but no chance of getting bim
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Post by lordb on Mar 5, 2023 16:00:30 GMT
He'd get a much better move than us surely? And would cost a fortune? Probably so, would you class him as a target man? Definitely
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2023 16:11:21 GMT
He'd get a much better move than us surely? And would cost a fortune? Probably so, would you class him as a target man? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2023 16:20:18 GMT
Is Gyokeres a target man? He'd get a much better move than us surely? And would cost a fortune? I still think it will be Dykes. Think Gyokeres will be premier league bound.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2023 16:22:36 GMT
He'd get a much better move than us surely? And would cost a fortune? I still think it will be Dykes. Think Gyokeres will be premier league bound. Possibly but he's not really very good is he? All hard work and not much end product?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 5, 2023 16:31:02 GMT
If we can move up this Division before the season ends, players would be more inclined to sign for us next season, than if we are closer to the relegation area.
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 5, 2023 16:32:37 GMT
He'd get a much better move than us surely? And would cost a fortune? Probably so, would you class him as a target man? He was linked with Everton in January. I'd suspect he will go to a club like Everton if they came down Dykes, Stewart, Morris, Yates, Joao, Keinan Davies, Woodrow, Sam Gallagher and Riis would all be credible targets. For wingers Watmore, Philogene and Willock all get able
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 5, 2023 16:36:07 GMT
I still think it will be Dykes. Think Gyokeres will be premier league bound. Possibly but he's not really very good is he? All hard work and not much end product? I think he’d compliment Campbell on one flank and the press with him and Brown would be good out of possession. If Baker is gone next season, we also need a penalty taker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2023 16:38:32 GMT
I still think it will be Dykes. Think Gyokeres will be premier league bound. Possibly but he's not really very good is he? All hard work and not much end product? I think his hold up play is good and he'd bring the best out of Ty and hopefully another wide forward. He's 1 in 4 for QPR which isn't too bad. I would like better but realistically he's probably as good as we can hope for at the moment and a least he does what is says on the tin.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2023 16:45:47 GMT
Possibly but he's not really very good is he? All hard work and not much end product? I think he’d compliment Campbell on one flank and the press with him and Brown would be good out of possession. If Baker is gone next season, we also need a penalty taker. We've got to be looking at getting Brown out of the team surely? Bench player at best. He's got 12 league goals in a season as his best effort. I just don't think that's enough unless Campbell gets 20. And there's little evidence bar hope that, that could happen.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2023 17:12:19 GMT
Ogbene at Rotherham will probably have loads of interest on a free too, to potentially play on the right. Just depends on where he sees Brown's future.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 5, 2023 17:13:45 GMT
Ogbene at Rotherham will probably have loads of interest on a free too, to potentially play on the right. Just depends on where he sees Brown's future. Would be good. He's got experience of playing right back too so Brown has competition of he signs.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 5, 2023 17:21:45 GMT
I have always thought Gallagher at Blackburn was a really good player,he played wide under Mowbray I think?. Wasn't Nathan Redmond rumoured to be on our radar in January?. He's a winger Neil knows well and we could have a bigger budget in the summer.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 5, 2023 17:22:25 GMT
I think he’d compliment Campbell on one flank and the press with him and Brown would be good out of possession. If Baker is gone next season, we also need a penalty taker. We've got to be looking at getting Brown out of the team surely? Bench player at best. He's got 12 league goals in a season as his best effort. I just don't think that's enough unless Campbell gets 20. And there's little evidence bar hope that, that could happen. We just disagree here. I think that his contribution to the team is important. You don’t. Fair enough.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2023 17:25:50 GMT
We've got to be looking at getting Brown out of the team surely? Bench player at best. He's got 12 league goals in a season as his best effort. I just don't think that's enough unless Campbell gets 20. And there's little evidence bar hope that, that could happen. We just disagree here. I think that his contribution to the team is important. You don’t. Fair enough. He's not a striker though. Out wide, out of the way a bit he has his use with his running but that's about it.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 5, 2023 17:27:50 GMT
I think he’d compliment Campbell on one flank and the press with him and Brown would be good out of possession. If Baker is gone next season, we also need a penalty taker. We've got to be looking at getting Brown out of the team surely? Bench player at best. He's got 12 league goals in a season as his best effort. I just don't think that's enough unless Campbell gets 20. And there's little evidence bar hope that, that could happen. He's not technically great and if we can get better we should try to replace him, like all the team to be fair. That said, he's averaged a goal in a similar amount of minutes to Campbell this season despite playing wing back for a few games. He'll get 10-15 goals if he plays right in a 3 for the majority of the season, which isn't bad and could be part of a play off team, biggest goal output requirement is the central position.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 5, 2023 17:29:17 GMT
We just disagree here. I think that his contribution to the team is important. You don’t. Fair enough. He's not a striker though. Out wide, out of the way a bit he has his use with his running but that's about it. Again, I think that out wide, he has a good deal of use to the team. We’ve had this conversation about 20x though, so let’s just agree to disagree and move on.
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Post by pmjh on Mar 6, 2023 9:51:20 GMT
we've got 11 players under contract at the end of the season. It's doubtful we'll be replacing anybody. We'll have our work cut out replacing gaps in the squad. Out of those 11 only Laurent stands out to me as an automatic choice. In all the other positions we have to find new 1st choices or competition for the current incumbents. We have a big summer ahead.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 7, 2023 8:20:17 GMT
we've got 11 players under contract at the end of the season. It's doubtful we'll be replacing anybody. We'll have our work cut out replacing gaps in the squad. Out of those 11 only Laurent stands out to me as an automatic choice. In all the other positions we have to find new 1st choices or competition for the current incumbents. We have a big summer ahead. Yep. We're looking at maybe three players currently making up our best XI who are likely to be here come the summer aren't we? GK - NEW RB - NEW CB - Wilmot CB - NEW LB - NEW DM - NEW CM - Laurent/Baker CAM - NEW RW - Campbell CF - NEW LW - NEW
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 7, 2023 8:26:54 GMT
we've got 11 players under contract at the end of the season. It's doubtful we'll be replacing anybody. We'll have our work cut out replacing gaps in the squad. Out of those 11 only Laurent stands out to me as an automatic choice. In all the other positions we have to find new 1st choices or competition for the current incumbents. We have a big summer ahead. Yep. We're looking at maybe three players currently making up our best XI who are likely to be here come the summer aren't we? GK - NEW RB - NEW CB - Wilmot CB - NEW LB - NEW DM - NEW CM - Laurent/Baker CAM - NEW RW - Campbell CF - NEW LW - NEW Holy shit. That's a lot of NEW
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Post by bolly_premprem on Mar 7, 2023 9:10:36 GMT
max power is out of contract with wigan
we have to get Max Power !!
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 7, 2023 9:37:20 GMT
This thread indicates the size of the task at hand. I’m hopeful, but rarely do you see immediate results when you have large numbers of players coming in as they take time to gel. It is a sad indictment on previous regimes that we’ve ended up like this.
I remain optimistic for next season, not around whether we make the playoffs (which would be nice) but more around signs starting to show of how we want to play and a pattern emerging. Feels like we have a plan for the first time in years and we need to be patient just a little longer.
I have great, great expectations for the 2024/2025 season though…..promotion or bust 😂😂
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 7, 2023 9:57:52 GMT
I think we need to understand the huge task we've got ahead of ourselves when making our expectations for next season. It's a hell of a lot of work to bring in that many players and make a genuine push for promotion.
I can see next season being very similar to 06/07 where we get so close but ultimately fail. That will certainly be progress though.
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 7, 2023 10:03:12 GMT
This thread indicates the size of the task at hand. I’m hopeful, but rarely do you see immediate results when you have large numbers of players coming in as they take time to gel. It is a sad indictment on previous regimes that we’ve ended up like this. I remain optimistic for next season, not around whether we make the playoffs (which would be nice) but more around signs starting to show of how we want to play and a pattern emerging. Feels like we have a plan for the first time in years and we need to be patient just a little longer. I have great, great expectations for the 2024/2025 season though…..promotion or bust 😂😂 The sheer number of players needed is quite scary. As you say introducing so many into a squad at once very rarely reaps immediate rewards. They will take weeks or months to gel then we may spend the rest of the season playing catch-up. All the more reason to try to make some of the current loanees permanent in the summer.
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Post by Stokester on Mar 7, 2023 10:08:30 GMT
A crucial starting point will be what we do with Sterling (should definitely sign and is out of contract), Pearson (would love, tougher), Smallbone (now feels a no brainer) and Sarkic (seemingly highly unlikely having just signed a new long term contract).
Getting ideally three of those permanently would be a huge step in the right direction.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 7, 2023 10:25:01 GMT
I think we need to understand the huge task we've got ahead of ourselves when making our expectations for next season. It's a hell of a lot of work to bring in that many players and make a genuine push for promotion. I can see next season being very similar to 06/07 where we get so close but ultimately fail. That will certainly be progress though. A top half finish is massive progress to what has come before. You have to set that as the minimum expectation and hope for anything better imo.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 7, 2023 10:26:41 GMT
Sterling must be keeping his options open, or you'd think it'd already be done as it's becoming a no-brainer.
Possibly a complication would be a compensation fee (no idea how much?) if Chelsea go through the motions of offering him a new deal.
He may have dreams (delusions?) that a Prem team would come in for him given how highly-rated he's been coming through the age groups - but can't see any way he'd get any minutes at that level any time soon. And, at 24 in October, he needs games
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 7, 2023 11:10:56 GMT
Given the fee Wolves paid for Hoever, you'd think Sterling was the likelier of the two. Any of the other loanees coming in (Pearson, Tuanzebe, Smallbone and Celina) would help with the transition I guess but if we really are looking for 7 new starters then it's not a great prospect.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 7, 2023 11:20:00 GMT
From what we have seen so far with Celina, he will be lucky to make the 18 in the matchday squad, let alone the team itself. I would imagine, he will not be one we will be signing after his loan.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 7, 2023 12:20:50 GMT
we've got 11 players under contract at the end of the season. It's doubtful we'll be replacing anybody. We'll have our work cut out replacing gaps in the squad. Out of those 11 only Laurent stands out to me as an automatic choice. In all the other positions we have to find new 1st choices or competition for the current incumbents. We have a big summer ahead. Yep. We're looking at maybe three players currently making up our best XI who are likely to be here come the summer aren't we? GK - NEW RB - NEW CB - Wilmot CB - NEW LB - NEW DM - NEW CM - Laurent/Baker CAM - NEW RW - Campbell CF - NEW LW - NEW I don’t agree with that. I’d have Brown in any starting 11 in this league on the RW, especially with a target man. Campbell has made gradual improvements on the LW in recent weeks. I’d love to see Taylor tried alongside Wilmot to see if he’s close. I’d also love to see Tymon given a shot at left back now that we actually have a defensive midfielder. Getting a fuller understanding of those two should be imperative before creating an entirely new defensive line. I don’t see us getting an attacking midfielder. Our system currently doesn’t use one, which means someone would have to come to sit on a bench/be used for the occasional game. We need a couple of mobile 8s though to play alongside Laurent and in front of Pearson (hopefully). It’s still a huge task, but I think it’s a better idea to use what we can instead of trying to bring in even more. The recruitment has been below par for years, the less they have to do the better.
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