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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 26, 2023 20:56:09 GMT
GK
Travers (loan), Bonham, Fielding 2024
RB
Hoever (loan) 2024
Gooch 2025
Tchamadeu 2027
LB
Stevens 2024
CB
McNally (loan) 2024
Wilmot, Rose 2025
MID
Thompson, Haksabanovic (loan) 2024
Baker, Laurent, Johnson 2025
Sidibe 2026
Pearson, Burger, Bae 2027
ATT
Wesley, Campbell, DWP, Gayle 2024
Tezgel, Lowe 2025
Vidigal, Mmaee, Leris 2026
Jojic 2027
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Post by independent on Feb 26, 2023 21:00:10 GMT
There will be plenty of fit decent players available for a club with money, like us with £15 million .
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Post by Gods on Feb 26, 2023 21:09:54 GMT
Once you take out the loans we don't really have a team at all do we?
I can feel next season being written off as I type...'a season of rebuilding in lieu of a play-off push in 2024/25!'
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Post by jebbstuart on Feb 26, 2023 21:51:55 GMT
£15 to buy how many 6,8,10 leaves you with £1,5 million each plus wages. Would you give AN £15million to spend?
Look at the calibre of signing so far, thats all we are going to attract loans and no better than what we have. Our scoutting network for talent looks thin on the ground at present.
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2023 21:55:16 GMT
£15 to buy how many 6,8,10 leaves you with £1,5 million each plus wages. Would you give AN £15million to spend? Look at the calibre of signing so far, thats all we are going to attract loans and no better than what we have. Our scoutting network for talent looks thin on the ground at present. We will have more than that re FFP easing for us how much more don't know |
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Post by jebbstuart on Feb 26, 2023 22:01:07 GMT
Think the problem is we need to fill too many holes with quality and that will cost.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 26, 2023 22:03:55 GMT
We have to try and build a strong first XI and accept that players like Fox, Wilmot and Thompson etc are still going to be needed as back-ups.
If we go 4-3-3 next season:
First Choice XI: GK New, RB New, LB Tymon, CB New, CB New, DM New, CM Laurent, CM Baker, RW Campbell, CF New, LW New
Back-ups: GK Bonham, RB Edwards, LB Fox, CB Taylor, CB Wilmot, DM Thompson, CM New, CM New, RW Brown, CF Tezgel, LW Wright-Phillips
We need 7 first-team standard players and probably a couple of back-up midfielders as well.
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Post by lordb on Feb 26, 2023 22:11:10 GMT
We will need an intensive pre season
Unfortunately the nature of the transfer window system means we will probably sign a fair number of new players at the end of the window, especially loans
Please please fuck the transfer window off its wank
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 26, 2023 22:12:42 GMT
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Post by independent on Feb 26, 2023 22:43:56 GMT
That is exactly what I thought. And apart from teams coming down we will be one of a small number with money to spend. Remember that even without the Souttar money we can spend £13 million and stay within FFP. Powell is allegedly on 25k a week,and with the others out of contract our wage bill will be really down. The question is whether you trust AN to do the spending or not? I think the promotion push is on next year if he can get players to sign for him. It must be a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 26, 2023 23:45:52 GMT
It’s a great place to be.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2023 2:54:31 GMT
£15 to buy how many 6,8,10 leaves you with £1,5 million each plus wages. Would you give AN £15million to spend? Look at the calibre of signing so far, thats all we are going to attract loans and no better than what we have. Our scoutting network for talent looks thin on the ground at present. Hopefully, we will sign Pearson, a target man and a goalkeeper. I reckon that will cost 5-8 million. The rest will be free transfers and loans. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2023 2:56:03 GMT
You just know that Pukki will be our number one target 😂 |
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 27, 2023 7:56:02 GMT
The great re-set begins !  |
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Post by stokie1947 on Feb 27, 2023 8:35:48 GMT
ground hog day
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Post by parsonage1955 on Feb 27, 2023 11:40:15 GMT
On what basis are folk reckoning we may have £15 million to spend this summer on oncoming transfers?
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Post by stokecitytalke on Feb 27, 2023 11:51:54 GMT
On what basis are folk reckoning we may have £15 million to spend this summer on oncoming transfers? We sold Bursik to balance the books, FFP wise. We then sold Souttar for £15M meaning we can spend that on new players. Factor in that about 11 players are out of contract then their salaries can be spent on new players. We can also spend about £13m each year for the next 3 years without troubling FFP. So we should have a lot more than £15m to spend in the summer. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2023 12:03:03 GMT
On what basis are folk reckoning we may have £15 million to spend this summer on oncoming transfers? We sold Bursik to balance the books, FFP wise. We then sold Souttar for £15M meaning we can spend that on new players. Factor in that about 11 players are out of contract then their salaries can be spent on new players. We can also spend about £13m each year for the next 3 years without troubling FFP. So we should have a lot more than £15m to spend in the summer. But the spend also has to factor in signing on fees, agent fees and player contracts. If we want a better caliber of player, we will have to pay a better weekly wage. I imagine our income will drop reasonably well next season and the ground will rarely look even close to full. |
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Post by stokecitytalke on Feb 27, 2023 12:06:01 GMT
We sold Bursik to balance the books, FFP wise. We then sold Souttar for £15M meaning we can spend that on new players. Factor in that about 11 players are out of contract then their salaries can be spent on new players. We can also spend about £13m each year for the next 3 years without troubling FFP. So we should have a lot more than £15m to spend in the summer. But the spend also has to factor in signing on fees, agent fees and player contracts. If we want a better caliber of player, we will have to pay a better weekly wage. I imagine our income will drop reasonably well next season and the ground will rarely look even close to full. Yes I know, but even so, we still should be able to spend some money that hopefully improves the team. MON and AN have had to work with 'one out, one in'. |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 27, 2023 12:08:26 GMT
One thing for sure, it's a complete shambles due to a stream of useless managers and a board who are not on the ball! We hardly have even a semblance of a squad and we won't get a decent one for £15m.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2023 12:19:50 GMT
But the spend also has to factor in signing on fees, agent fees and player contracts. If we want a better caliber of player, we will have to pay a better weekly wage. I imagine our income will drop reasonably well next season and the ground will rarely look even close to full. Yes I know, but even so, we still should be able to spend some money that hopefully improves the team. MON and AN have had to work with 'one out, one in'. Which we will be doing now. Most of the squad will be gone. I’d be surprised if we spend for than 5-8 million on direct transfer fees to be honest. If we want to be serious about bringing in higher quality players, we will need to get our first free transfer choices in early, which means giving bigger contracts. |
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Post by lordb on Feb 27, 2023 12:21:30 GMT
Yes I know, but even so, we still should be able to spend some money that hopefully improves the team. MON and AN have had to work with 'one out, one in'. Which we will be doing now. Most of the squad will be gone. I’d be surprised if we spend for than 5-8 million on direct transfer fees to be honest. If we want to be serious about bringing in higher quality players, we will need to get our first free transfer choices in early, which means giving bigger contracts. Indeed whatever the pot is the early free transfers could be expensive |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Feb 27, 2023 12:23:03 GMT
Odds on us ending up with Ashley Barnes and Troy Deeney to spearhead our promotion push with Dwight Gayle? |
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 27, 2023 12:25:10 GMT
Next season will be our season. I can feel it.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Feb 27, 2023 12:28:26 GMT
Yes I know, but even so, we still should be able to spend some money that hopefully improves the team. MON and AN have had to work with 'one out, one in'. Which we will be doing now. Most of the squad will be gone. I’d be surprised if we spend for than 5-8 million on direct transfer fees to be honest. If we want to be serious about bringing in higher quality players, we will need to get our first free transfer choices in early, which means giving bigger contracts. I still think we will be able to spend a bit on fees as well as the free transfers. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2023 12:47:46 GMT
Which we will be doing now. Most of the squad will be gone. I’d be surprised if we spend for than 5-8 million on direct transfer fees to be honest. If we want to be serious about bringing in higher quality players, we will need to get our first free transfer choices in early, which means giving bigger contracts. Indeed whatever the pot is the early free transfers could be expensive And they have to be as well, in my opinion. We have an entire squad to assemble. You need to bring in your key players early and then use the rest of the time recruiting players that suit these new, key figures. |
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Post by pushon on Feb 27, 2023 14:00:09 GMT
How much is spent is entirely in the hands of "The Family"
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Post by stokeyank on Feb 27, 2023 15:00:19 GMT
That is exactly what I thought. And apart from teams coming down we will be one of a small number with money to spend. Remember that even without the Souttar money we can spend £13 million and stay within FFP. Powell is allegedly on 25k a week,and with the others out of contract our wage bill will be really down. The question is whether you trust AN to do the spending or not? I think the promotion push is on next year if he can get players to sign for him. It must be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Thing is we won't have much of a choice but to let AN spend some of it. If we'll barely have enough players to field a senior team! |
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Post by femark on Feb 27, 2023 15:40:45 GMT
Which we will be doing now. Most of the squad will be gone. I’d be surprised if we spend for than 5-8 million on direct transfer fees to be honest. If we want to be serious about bringing in higher quality players, we will need to get our first free transfer choices in early, which means giving bigger contracts. I still think we will be able to spend a bit on fees as well as the free transfers. I expect us to spend £1-2m on a couple or three players, similar to Brown, Wilmot, Surridge etc. Young players with potential to make money at a later date. The board have been quite clear on this stance since FFP and a move to being more sustainable. I can't see us spending money on any players over the age of 25. |
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Post by independent on Feb 27, 2023 16:25:37 GMT
I still think we will be able to spend a bit on fees as well as the free transfers. I expect us to spend £1-2m on a couple or three players, similar to Brown, Wilmot, Surridge etc. Young players with potential to make money at a later date. The board have been quite clear on this stance since FFP and a move to being more sustainable. I can't see us spending money on any players over the age of 25. I think that we will spend a lot more than that on new players. Regarding the age of said players, Didn't Neil leave Sunderland because he was only allowed to sign young players with a re-sale value. Most Championship teams are broke, so I don't know why we should have to hand out big signing on fees or big payments to agents. It is going to be a buyer's market this Summer, and anyone with cash will call the shots. I don't understand all the moaning, for a manager this is as good as it gets. How many managers would love to have money to spend and lots of vacant places in their squad? |
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