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Post by idle on Feb 16, 2023 9:16:31 GMT
I think he's better as a left CB, but I still want us to play 4-3-3/4-2-3-1, so we'll have to do with him until Tymon's back.
I'm hoping AN could teach Tymon some positional sense, but he's getting older, so I'm not sure he can be a good FB
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Post by stokeuk474 on Feb 16, 2023 9:25:47 GMT
When he didn’t control that ball when he was clear down the left and I had my head in my hands, two moments of the season happened. “You fucking dildo” from the left “Facking shoot him” from the bloke he sits behind. Had me in tears. Poor old Fox. We were absolutely pissing ourselves at some of his efforts last night in block 22. As you say, the one down the left when he just couldn't control the fucking thing. Then immediately after that he failed to control a simple ball again and just twatted it up in the air. Near the end he tried to shield one out for a goal kick and stumbled into it giving a corner away. Watching him defend is like Keystone Cops.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 16, 2023 9:29:47 GMT
If the club is to progress next season the likes of Fox will need moving on, thankfully he’s out of contract.
He is simply not good enough.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 16, 2023 10:04:20 GMT
I always thought he was best as a full back but last night was his worst performance for a while.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 16, 2023 10:07:50 GMT
I always thought he was best as a full back but last night was his worst performance for a while. Has virtually no attacking qualities whatsoever. It’s very rare you see FB’s like that nowadays.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 16, 2023 10:11:49 GMT
I always thought he was best as a full back but last night was his worst performance for a while. Has virtually no attacking qualities whatsoever. It’s very rare you see FB’s like that nowadays. He would have been great under Pulis. His best crosses are from the half way line.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 16, 2023 10:15:40 GMT
Has virtually no attacking qualities whatsoever. It’s very rare you see FB’s like that nowadays. He would have been great under Pulis. His best crosses are from the half way line. I really can’t imagine him being great under anyone, anywhere.
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Post by Jack Jarvis Esquire on Feb 16, 2023 10:33:03 GMT
He is absolutely diabolical! Cannot control a ball or a pass it five yards.
Defensively he is all over the place, the fact he has played as many games as he has this season shows how bad our recruitment is.
He needs be shown the door at the end of season hes league 2 standard at best.
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Post by idle on Feb 16, 2023 10:56:42 GMT
He is absolutely diabolical! Cannot control a ball or a pass it five yards. Defensively he is all over the place, the fact he has played as many games as he has this season shows how bad our recruitment is. He needs be shown the door at the end of season hes league 2 standard at best. And yet he's ever present in our defence now. We can't show them all the door, that'll be route one to league one for sure.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2023 10:58:32 GMT
He is absolutely diabolical! Cannot control a ball or a pass it five yards. Defensively he is all over the place, the fact he has played as many games as he has this season shows how bad our recruitment is. He needs be shown the door at the end of season hes league 2 standard at best. And yet he's ever present in our defence now. We can't show them all the door, that'll be route one to league one for sure. Why can't we? It's exactly what needs to happen. The only player who should be a regular next season of that back 4 is Sterling.
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Post by Jack Jarvis Esquire on Feb 16, 2023 11:13:15 GMT
He is absolutely diabolical! Cannot control a ball or a pass it five yards. Defensively he is all over the place, the fact he has played as many games as he has this season shows how bad our recruitment is. He needs be shown the door at the end of season hes league 2 standard at best. And yet he's ever present in our defence now. We can't show them all the door, that'll be route one to league one for sure. That's what the recruitment department is for, hes ever present because we have no one else. Hes playing by default, hes not at the standard required! it really is as simple as that.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 16, 2023 11:51:35 GMT
And yet he's ever present in our defence now. We can't show them all the door, that'll be route one to league one for sure. That's what the recruitment department is for, hes ever present because we have no one else. Hes playing by default, hes not at the standard required! it really is as simple as that. I wish I was as confident wasn't it rumoured that Alex Neil was interested in signing him in the Summer?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 16, 2023 11:57:07 GMT
He’s another player who was signed for predominantly a covering role who has ended up being more or less a first team regular. Exceptionally limited player especially going forward, is he out of contract this summer do we know?
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Post by Jack Jarvis Esquire on Feb 16, 2023 12:24:09 GMT
That's what the recruitment department is for, hes ever present because we have no one else. Hes playing by default, hes not at the standard required! it really is as simple as that. I wish I was as confident wasn't it rumoured that Alex Neil was interested in signing him in the Summer? Was he? that's just sent a chill down my spine. Hopefully has seen enough close up to convince him other wise. The amount of times I see Neil shaking his head at him from where I sit makes me think maybe his opinion has changed.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 16, 2023 12:33:08 GMT
There is always a boo boy in any underachieving side, but last night I thought he was awful. Had it been a better side he’d have been singled out and exploited.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 16, 2023 12:33:36 GMT
He’s another player who was signed for predominantly a covering role who has ended up being more or less a first team regular. Exceptionally limited player especially going forward, is he out of contract this summer do we know? Yup.
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Post by kerouac on Feb 16, 2023 12:56:40 GMT
He’s like your older brother who’s come back from Uni (who has never really been any good at footy) however, you invite him along to make up the numbers in a friendly and is,quite frankly,embarrassingly shite.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Feb 16, 2023 12:57:14 GMT
There is always a boo boy in any underachieving side, but last night I thought he was awful. Had it been a better side he’d have been singled out and exploited. Megan Fox is more of a left back.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 16, 2023 13:17:40 GMT
haha Fox looked like he had just come out of the pub to play last night.
I dont dislike the guy though he is the consummate steady eddy.
Not many goals come from crosses on his side of the pitch. Defensively he is a really solid left-back.
Going past the half-way line though he gets a nosebleed.
OF COURSE we could and should be looking for better. But he doesnt deserve to be a boo boy at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 13:49:17 GMT
Give Tymon a run of games as left back in a four and people on here will be begging to get Fox back in the team.
Of course we need better but he's at least an adequate defender. Some of the criticism of him on this thread is frankly embarrassing.
He's played well over 200 games at championship level.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Feb 16, 2023 13:52:14 GMT
A 3 - 0 win and some fans need to fin negatives do go on about, no he didn't have a great game, he miss-controlled one ball horribly, but we won.
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Post by knype on Feb 16, 2023 14:12:16 GMT
Give Tymon a run of games as left back in a four and people on here will be begging to get Fox back in the team. Of course we need better but he's at least an adequate defender. Some of the criticism of him on this thread is frankly embarrassing. He's played well over 200 games at championship level. No, no we won't we will be begging for us to sign an actual LB / LWB who can run with the ball, pass to his own teammates and maybe control the ball when played to him? Surely that is not too much to ask?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 15:32:47 GMT
Give Tymon a run of games as left back in a four and people on here will be begging to get Fox back in the team. Of course we need better but he's at least an adequate defender. Some of the criticism of him on this thread is frankly embarrassing. He's played well over 200 games at championship level. No, no we won't we will be begging for us to sign an actual LB / LWB who can run with the ball, pass to his own teammates and maybe control the ball when played to him? Surely that is not too much to ask? If you actually read my post you might see that I said we need better but we won't be buying two new left backs in the summer. Fox should not be first choice next season but if we offer him reduced terms as a squad/backup full back/left centre back then that's fine by me. If he chooses to go, he goes with my best wishes. I would keep Fox over Tymon everyday of the week if the plan is to play with a back four.
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Post by kerouac on Feb 16, 2023 16:09:25 GMT
A 3 - 0 win and some fans need to fin negatives do go on about, no he didn't have a great game, he miss-controlled one ball horribly, but we won. It doesn’t stop you looking at where we need to improve if we’re going to push on. Fox must go in the summer,we simply can’t compete properly in this league with passengers like him.
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 16, 2023 16:18:04 GMT
And yet he's ever present in our defence now. We can't show them all the door, that'll be route one to league one for sure. Why can't we? It's exactly what needs to happen. The only player who should be a regular next season of that back 4 is Sterling. Don't very often agree with you Bayern but you are right .
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Feb 16, 2023 16:28:42 GMT
But if after a 3 =-0 win the focus of our fans is who was shit, well we cant enjoy anything can we ? I've read significant criticism of fox, brwon ,baker, wilmot and smallbone after last nights game. After some good performances by at least 3 of those players. There is a balance to these things, but sometimes stoke fans look for the first signs of misery in any situations. A 3 - 0 win and some fans need to fin negatives do go on about, no he didn't have a great game, he miss-controlled one ball horribly, but we won. It doesn’t stop you looking at where we need to improve if we’re going to push on. Fox must go in the summer,we simply can’t compete properly in this league with passengers like him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2023 16:41:58 GMT
Why can't we? It's exactly what needs to happen. The only player who should be a regular next season of that back 4 is Sterling. Don't very often agree with you Bayern but you are right . People say this yet for the last 6 years I've been generally spot on, what's wrong with you all?
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Post by kerouac on Feb 16, 2023 16:42:56 GMT
But if after a 3 =-0 win the focus of our fans is who was shit, well we cant enjoy anything can we ? I've read significant criticism of fox, brwon ,baker, wilmot and smallbone after last nights game. After some good performances by at least 3 of those players. There is a balance to these things, but sometimes stoke fans look for the first signs of misery in any situations. It doesn’t stop you looking at where we need to improve if we’re going to push on. Fox must go in the summer,we simply can’t compete properly in this league with passengers like him. All fans do it,criticise players when we lose and exhalt them when we win.However,last nights win against a woeful‘udders doesn’t paper over the cracks and let us think that there aren’t a raft of players that are simply not good enough.
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Post by iamstokie on Feb 16, 2023 16:43:52 GMT
Had an iffy game today but he's the best LB we have so if you want a four I'd get used to it. Tymon is miles better Not at LB he isn’t , LWB and I agree
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 16, 2023 17:57:14 GMT
Don't very often agree with you Bayern but you are right . People say this yet for the last 6 years I've been generally spot on, what's wrong with you all? hahaha funniest post ever Keep believin in yourself Bayern.
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