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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2023 13:24:28 GMT
The community stuff we do is excellent but lots of other institutions do community work and they’re not protected in the same way. Let’s take the Vale. They do great community work but as a business their model seems absolutely bonkers. They need to build houses on Vale Park, find land for a 10k purpose built stadium and build from that. I don’t know of Southend’s pull or anything but from my lifetime as a football fan they always seemed a bit of a nothing club in a rotting stadium that’s too big for them. You have to pivot and if you don’t then you won’t be around for very long. Southend average 6,000 even now and have pretty much averaged between 5,000-8,000 since their brief flirtation with the Championship when they averaged over 10,000. Not sure what scale you use but that’s certainly not a “nothing club” Probably because they’re out of sight and out of mind tbh and just always seemed poxy to me. But the point still stands, if clubs aren’t moving forward now they are getting left behind and that’s life. The Conference and north and south are as competitive as they’ve ever been and old clubs are being taken over by more modern well run clubs. Hopefully Southend survive but if they don’t then their fans will create a new club and if it is viable in that area they’ll be fine. Ultimately Football needs a massive reset imo.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 16, 2023 17:03:43 GMT
I think they should actually, it’s not just about the x amount of paying punters on a Saturday, it’s about in times of austerity and under shitty governments projects such as this are vital to the community surrounding a football club…… The community stuff we do is excellent but lots of other institutions do community work and they’re not protected in the same way. Let’s take the Vale. They do great community work but as a business their model seems absolutely bonkers. They need to build houses on Vale Park, find land for a 10k purpose built stadium and build from that. I don’t know of Southend’s pull or anything but from my lifetime as a football fan they always seemed a bit of a nothing club in a rotting stadium that’s too big for them. You have to pivot and if you don’t then you won’t be around for very long. In that case you are a ‘nothing fan’. You disgust me. If you have no romanticism about football then you are nothing. You post all this left wing bollocks on the EE board and talk like an 80s Thatcherite on this thread, are you the bastard offspring of Colin Moynihan? Shame on you.
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Post by Northy on Jul 16, 2023 19:11:05 GMT
Folk dragging another thread down to the nadir again, it's about Southend just leave the bickering for once ?
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 16, 2023 22:42:59 GMT
Folk dragging another thread down to the nadir again, it's about Southend just leave the bickering for once ? It took Werrington 3 posts to call people Morons for questioning the owners and nobody had even mentioned them. No doubt Bayern will get the blame🙄
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 16, 2023 22:58:21 GMT
Folk dragging another thread down to the nadir again, it's about Southend just leave the bickering for once ? Happens with boring monotony mate.The usual fucking culprits.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2023 23:00:49 GMT
The community stuff we do is excellent but lots of other institutions do community work and they’re not protected in the same way. Let’s take the Vale. They do great community work but as a business their model seems absolutely bonkers. They need to build houses on Vale Park, find land for a 10k purpose built stadium and build from that. I don’t know of Southend’s pull or anything but from my lifetime as a football fan they always seemed a bit of a nothing club in a rotting stadium that’s too big for them. You have to pivot and if you don’t then you won’t be around for very long. In that case you are a ‘nothing fan’. You disgust me. If you have no romanticism about football then you are nothing. You post all this left wing bollocks on the EE board and talk like an 80s Thatcherite on this thread, are you the bastard offspring of Colin Moynihan? Shame on you. Sad clubs that are on their arses because people generally don’t care isn’t romantic.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2023 23:02:22 GMT
Folk dragging another thread down to the nadir again, it's about Southend just leave the bickering for once ? Happens with boring monotony mate.The usual fucking culprits. Indeed Mr Werrington got the ball rolling. My fault as usual though probably 🤣 This place is fucking hilarious.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 17, 2023 12:54:48 GMT
Happens with boring monotony mate.The usual fucking culprits. Indeed Mr Werrington got the ball rolling. My fault as usual though probably 🤣 This place is fucking hilarious. Bloody hell mate your getting paranoid.Was a general comment regarding all threads that seem to get hijacked.They just end up as one big squabble.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 21, 2023 20:57:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2023 21:25:16 GMT
Reading that, it doesn’t seem likely that they are going to be around for much longer unless they get a decent buyout. Shame, I remember liking them during their spell of success in the mid-2000’s. Freddie Eastwood seemed like a great player at the time.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 21, 2023 21:30:56 GMT
Alison won't be happy.
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Post by Northy on Jul 22, 2023 7:10:08 GMT
I was out having a few beers on Wednesday night with a guy who had already got his new season ticket with them, he wasn't confident of getting his money back if they went under, good news if they can start the season.
The owner wants to sell the club but keep the stadium, the training pitches and the land the new stadium has been bought for.
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Post by pavel on Jul 22, 2023 8:09:12 GMT
I don’t want the Coates out but that doesn’t mean they can’t be criticised. Many people think that there has been a big reset for the new season but there hasn’t, it’s just the same process, manager takes all and it’s sink or swim. If it doesn’t work get a new manager and start all over again with a different style, system and another wholesale clear out.
Just imagine being run like Brighton or Brentford with the Coates money, now there’s a thought.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 23, 2023 20:44:29 GMT
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Post by Northy on Aug 24, 2023 6:32:41 GMT
10 point deduction, but they are appealing. Buyout by an Aussie business man in progress, do you know him
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2023 6:42:16 GMT
I don’t want the Coates out but that doesn’t mean they can’t be criticised. Many people think that there has been a big reset for the new season but there hasn’t, it’s just the same process, manager takes all and it’s sink or swim. If it doesn’t work get a new manager and start all over again with a different style, system and another wholesale clear out. Just imagine being run like Brighton or Brentford with the Coates money, now there’s a thought. This post hasn’t aged well.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 24, 2023 7:43:47 GMT
Next Southend court day is October 4th. The one after that will be around November 15th. Usually you can do a search on a football club and a list of fixtures comes up. Search Southend and it's a list of court dates.😁
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Post by Northy on Aug 24, 2023 7:54:17 GMT
Next Southend court day is October 4th. The one after that will be around November 15th. Usually you can do a search on a football club and a list of fixtures comes up. Search Southend and it's a list of court dates.😁 I'm due in London on the 5th October with the guy I know who is the season ticket holder with them, could be an interesting conversation that day, one way or another.
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 24, 2023 8:07:08 GMT
All the money the big clubs have....should be able to create a fund to help clubs like this.....it would be a drop in the ocean to them collectivly
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Post by pavel on Aug 24, 2023 8:36:39 GMT
I don’t want the Coates out but that doesn’t mean they can’t be criticised. Many people think that there has been a big reset for the new season but there hasn’t, it’s just the same process, manager takes all and it’s sink or swim. If it doesn’t work get a new manager and start all over again with a different style, system and another wholesale clear out. Just imagine being run like Brighton or Brentford with the Coates money, now there’s a thought. This post hasn’t aged well. I think it’s still valid March in respect of the manager still being top dog and calling all the shots, what we now need to see is continuity of the playing and transfer approach down through successive regimes in the future. However I can’t say I haven’t been impressed with the turnaround so far and I’m mightily excited with what this season will bring, so we’ll done the whole team from Coates down. Brighton and Brentford have been doing it for years so if we can continue with a consistent and coherent approach we can be a real force.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 3, 2023 21:38:07 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 23, 2023 21:37:10 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 23, 2023 22:41:27 GMT
old story. Where are they at now?
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 23, 2023 22:43:43 GMT
Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Wolves is a great example to look at. Dodgy foreign owners apparently, not local and no affinity to the club yet have appointed a top class manager when rock bottom of the PL. He'll keep them up. Contrast that to the wonderful, local owners who 'know the club and know the game' who lumbered us with Paul Lambert in 2018, who accelerated our drop to the bottom half of the Championship where we've stayed ever since. Two sides to every story aren't there? Besides, isn't Ron Martin a local businessman to Southend and a Southend fan? 🤣 Do you crap out of your mouth, cos you talk through your arse.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 23:06:04 GMT
Wolves is a great example to look at. Dodgy foreign owners apparently, not local and no affinity to the club yet have appointed a top class manager when rock bottom of the PL. He'll keep them up. Contrast that to the wonderful, local owners who 'know the club and know the game' who lumbered us with Paul Lambert in 2018, who accelerated our drop to the bottom half of the Championship where we've stayed ever since. Two sides to every story aren't there? Besides, isn't Ron Martin a local businessman to Southend and a Southend fan? 🤣 Do you crap out of your mouth, cos you talk through your arse. Go and abuse someone else. Not interested in your vile words in the slightest.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 23, 2023 23:13:07 GMT
old story. Where are they at now? It’s an old story because it was posted nearly three months ago.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 23, 2023 23:42:42 GMT
Their transfer embargo is expected to be lifted next week. So they can start looking at football pitches instead of courtrooms
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 26, 2023 13:32:16 GMT
Do you crap out of your mouth, cos you talk through your arse. Go and abuse someone else. Not interested in your vile words in the slightest. Xxx
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Post by Northy on Jun 10, 2024 14:25:56 GMT
Unfortunately, the buy out still hasn't happened, the issues around the sale of land and the training ground etc is still to be determined, the council due diligence was due on that by about November 2023... and they have now said that they cannot release it because of pre election rules. Southend are facing a winding up order on the 26th June in the High Court; Southend United Trust are starting to work on a plan B, similar to what Bury ad Macclesfield had I suppose. www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/24372286.consortium-provide-update-bid-buy-southend-united/
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 10, 2024 16:16:18 GMT
Unfortunately, the buy out still hasn't happened, the issues around the sale of land and the training ground etc is still to be determined, the council due diligence was due on that by about November 2023... and they have now said that they cannot release it because of pre election rules. Southend are facing a winding up order on the 26th June in the High Court; Southend United Trust are starting to work on a plan B, similar to what Bury ad Macclesfield had I suppose. www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/24372286.consortium-provide-update-bid-buy-southend-united/Bloody hell. What a kerfuffle
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