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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 27, 2023 19:47:23 GMT
Fuck it. Sounds like it might be worth a go. If Neil is going to rotate the formation as he suggested he should get plenty of time in the team. Sometimes risks pay off.
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Post by hamptonpig on Jan 27, 2023 19:58:43 GMT
Could go either way then if its attitude based as to why no one else wants him. Take your Pennant and Arnautovic and chance them against your Jese and Berahino.... Who knows?!!
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Post by meirman61 on Jan 27, 2023 20:01:42 GMT
Because the general consensus seems to be the ride so far has been full of speed bumps, potholes, bottlenecks and general pooness so far. The last time I laid back and ‘enjoyed the ride’, she cost me 200 euros ! Now THAT was worth my effort ! 😁 200 euro's I'd want to marry her for that. You can still get a BJ up Cobridge for 20 quid. Ahem.... so I'm told. 20 quid 😳 you've been done mate...so I'm told
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Post by jm on Jan 27, 2023 20:03:55 GMT
Good signing, better pedigree than Harry Clarke and cost peanuts so nothing to lose.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 27, 2023 22:03:14 GMT
I wasn't sure at first. Hoever, he's winning me over
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Post by potterpaul on Jan 27, 2023 22:51:59 GMT
Good signing, better pedigree than Harry Clarke and cost peanuts so nothing to lose. I always worry when it's described as a "nothing to lose" deal.
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Post by fca47 on Jan 27, 2023 23:03:37 GMT
In truth the video is pretty shocking, talk about telegraphing a pass. To be fair it looks like a pre-season friendly.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 27, 2023 23:08:37 GMT
Good signing, better pedigree than Harry Clarke and cost peanuts so nothing to lose. I always worry when it's described as a "nothing to lose" deal. There’s always nothing to lose until someone slips on their arse or sticks one in their own net……
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 27, 2023 23:31:16 GMT
When i saw his name i thought Jimmy the Hoover.
Now theres a one hit wonder.
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 27, 2023 23:48:00 GMT
Bit of a “dog’s home” signing but we’ll need to polish a few rough diamonds if we’re going to get promoted, so seems a sensible move. Got to be better than signing nobodies like Cuco Martina and that 35 year old from Sheff Utd? Even the Harry Clarke-type signings have a high chance of failure as you’re relying on a young player immediately stepping up to a level of football they’ve never played at before.
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 28, 2023 0:01:23 GMT
This is a very interesting signing. It sounds to me that we have either unearthed a gem or a dud. Fingers crossed - welcome to SCFC!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 28, 2023 8:15:28 GMT
He's not a RWB - he's a right back. We don't routinely field a RB and the player seems to think defending is boring reading stuff he's been quoted as saying. We haven't had a RWB yet who satisfies me as being ambitious enough in their play so I'll look forward to seeing what this lad can do if given the chance. A RWB still has a responsibility to defend - a RWB who thinks defending is boring is a winger. I'm looking forward to seeing the lad play and it will be interesting to see what position he plays. But if he is playing as a defender I hope he can actually do the basics before donning the sequins and going into entertainment mode.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 28, 2023 8:52:03 GMT
200 euro's I'd want to marry her for that. You can still get a BJ up Cobridge for 20 quid. Ahem.... so I'm told. 20 quid 😳 you've been done mate...so I'm told I was done. …..erm I mean my mate was. I believe.
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2023 9:45:10 GMT
Is this a friendly, I am wondering where the audience is? You'd expect so as they are from 2 different countries. Not the best video to show off your skills like basic touch
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 28, 2023 9:50:36 GMT
Doesn't sound like a long-planned target, does it?
Just an opportunist one with Wolves hawking him around after the PSV loan ended.
If we've decided it's the best use of the loan slot, just got to back Neil and Martin, until proven otherwise.
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Post by iamstokie on Jan 28, 2023 9:53:06 GMT
Doesn't sound like a long-planned target, does it? Just an opportunist one with Wolves hawking him around after the PSV loan ended. If we've decided it's the best use of the loan slot, just got to back Neil and Martin, until proven otherwise. I’m in Birmingham for the weekend at an army reunion, lots of wolves from my regiment and not one rates this guy at all 🤷♂️
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Post by neddy on Jan 28, 2023 10:12:07 GMT
Doesn't sound like a long-planned target, does it? Just an opportunist one with Wolves hawking him around after the PSV loan ended. If we've decided it's the best use of the loan slot, just got to back Neil and Martin, until proven otherwise. I’m in Birmingham for the weekend at an army reunion, lots of wolves from my regiment and not one rates this guy at all 🤷♂️ Sounded like we’ve giving you the goalie so have him as well as PSV are paying his wages so just gets him out of the way?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 28, 2023 11:55:35 GMT
Doesn't sound like a long-planned target, does it? Just an opportunist one with Wolves hawking him around after the PSV loan ended. If we've decided it's the best use of the loan slot, just got to back Neil and Martin, until proven otherwise. Can't say I'm optimistic about this one considering his history although he was well thought of at Liverpool as a Right Back. No doubt we'll have a better idea after a few games.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 28, 2023 12:14:29 GMT
Fuck it. Sounds like it might be worth a go. If Neil is going to rotate the formation as he suggested he should get plenty of time in the team. Sometimes risks pay off. The problem I have with rotating out the formation are as follows: 1) Tymon is one of our most saleable assets. He operates best as a wing back. Will we play him at left back? I’m happy with that. I don’t think he’s a left winger though. 2) Not one of our strikers can operate as a solo striker. 3) The players seemed to struggle to concentrate in a 352, I am terrified about giving them something else to learn.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 28, 2023 17:10:20 GMT
Likes to play out looking for passes forward - thats refreshing - may get caught in possession but hey ho - a bit lightweight and will get knocked off the ball. Confident and willing to attack so in for a penny in for a pound.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 28, 2023 18:25:09 GMT
Fuck it. Sounds like it might be worth a go. If Neil is going to rotate the formation as he suggested he should get plenty of time in the team. Sometimes risks pay off. The problem I have with rotating out the formation are as follows: 1) Tymon is one of our most saleable assets. He operates best as a wing back. Will we play him at left back? I’m happy with that. I don’t think he’s a left winger though. 2) Not one of our strikers can operate as a solo striker. 3) The players seemed to struggle to concentrate in a 352, I am terrified about giving them something else to learn. It's like adding extra strings to your bow when you can't hit the fucking target with the string you have. Don't see why this signing involves rotating the formation anyway. He's a right back who thinks defending is boring so RWB should be right up his street.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 28, 2023 22:50:23 GMT
Personally wouldn’t have signed him, too much of a risk and we don’t have a great record recently, rehabilitating players with poor attitudes.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 29, 2023 1:23:18 GMT
It’s a worth a risk on loan for me, we could end up with a Berahino or a Jese or we could equally end up with an Arnautovic or a Pennant.
We built our promotion and early years prem team on dogs home signings.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 29, 2023 2:09:47 GMT
As always will wait till I've seen him have a good run of games before making a judgement, we could have a quality player on our hands or a total dud. All the best lad.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 29, 2023 9:44:00 GMT
The problem I have with rotating out the formation are as follows: 1) Tymon is one of our most saleable assets. He operates best as a wing back. Will we play him at left back? I’m happy with that. I don’t think he’s a left winger though. 2) Not one of our strikers can operate as a solo striker. 3) The players seemed to struggle to concentrate in a 352, I am terrified about giving them something else to learn. It's like adding extra strings to your bow when you can't hit the fucking target with the string you have. Don't see why this signing involves rotating the formation anyway. He's a right back who thinks defending is boring so RWB should be right up his street. In that case probably best to call him a RWF rather than a RWB otherwise he could get done for failing to live up to his job description.
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 29, 2023 10:07:14 GMT
Clarke went back because Arsenal had £1m bid for him if that hadn't happened he'd still be here He also wasn't very good just very enthusiastic. I refuse to believe anyone has paid circa £13M for anyone with inferior technical ability to Clarke. I think he was bought for £9M, rising to £13M (which he clearly hasn't come anywhere near). What I'd like to know is why Wolves thought £9M was a justifiable fee to pay for someone who had played only a handful of cup games for Liverpool. Very much shades of Kevin Wimmer there! Fair to say that PSV have also had their pants pulled down on this, as they have loaned a player that they now have to pay to loan onto us! Sounds like the sort of thing that would've happened to us in recent years! I know all players should be given a chance, but everything about this deal smacks of rolling the dice on someone who isn't taking his profession seriously and I'm not impressed when there are other areas of the squad like CDM and target man that need addressing. I'd like to see Hoever start today against Stevenage, as he has cup game experience and against Stevenage, it's a game to show what he can do to prove he's worth a go in the league.
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Post by superalexneil on Jan 29, 2023 10:10:56 GMT
ive never seen anyone look a bad player from a youtube clip
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 29, 2023 10:55:34 GMT
He also wasn't very good just very enthusiastic. I refuse to believe anyone has paid circa £13M for anyone with inferior technical ability to Clarke. I think he was bought for £9M, rising to £13M (which he clearly hasn't come anywhere near). What I'd like to know is why Wolves thought £9M was a justifiable fee to pay for someone who had played only a handful of cup games for Liverpool. Very much shades of Kevin Wimmer there! Fair to say that PSV have also had their pants pulled down on this, as they have loaned a player that they now have to pay to loan onto us! Sounds like the sort of thing that would've happened to us in recent years! I know all players should be given a chance, but everything about this deal smacks of rolling the dice on someone who isn't taking his profession seriously and I'm not impressed when there are other areas of the squad like CDM and target man that need addressing. I'd like to see Hoever start today against Stevenage, as he has cup game experience and against Stevenage, it's a game to show what he can do to prove he's worth a go in the league. The only thing that makes sense to me is that his parent club are using us as a boot camp to get him back on track. I can't see Neil indulging a defender who apparently says he's bored of defending - far more likely Neil's part in the deal is to give him the bollocking his parent club can't be bothered to deliver. He either grows up or we leave him to sulk in the corner for a few months. He's clearly got talent but from the video and the reports his decision making and self discipline look questionable. Hopefully Neil can turn him round and help him realize his potential.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 29, 2023 11:18:20 GMT
It's like adding extra strings to your bow when you can't hit the fucking target with the string you have. Don't see why this signing involves rotating the formation anyway. He's a right back who thinks defending is boring so RWB should be right up his street. In that case probably best to call him a RWF rather than a RWB otherwise he could get done for failing to live up to his job description. Only by someone who has a very dated view of the game seems he was bought on to be in the same mould as TAA another player I doubt you have any understandig of.
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Post by lordb on Jan 29, 2023 11:25:40 GMT
In that case probably best to call him a RWF rather than a RWB otherwise he could get done for failing to live up to his job description. Only by someone who has a very dated view of the game seems he was bought on to be in the same mould as TAA another player I doubt you have any understandig of. Any need for that last line?
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