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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 23, 2022 13:12:45 GMT
This is worth a read, if you have a spare 15 minutes. It is a bit long and I have to admit I am only a quarter of the way through it myself, it has started very well though. Johan Cruyff: Total Football and the World Cup that changed everything - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63177677 |
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 23, 2022 14:28:16 GMT
Couldn't we have a thread similarly considering memorable Stoke players and characteristics that we can review and applaud.
We could post memories of the great 1970's side, and John Ritchie's hands and knees headed goal against Chelsea!
I can't wait though to see someone's take on the "Sam Vokes turn".
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2022 14:59:45 GMT
Couldn't we have a thread similarly considering memorable Stoke players and characteristics that we can review and applaud. We could post memories of the great 1970's side, and John Ritchie's hands and knees headed goal against Chelsea! I can't wait though to see someone's take on the "Sam Vokes turn". Wasn't John Ritchie's hands ands knees goal v Southampton, or is that my memory waning? On that note, I cannot imagine any player having enough time to go down on hands and knees to head it over the line. The game has changed so much really! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 15:01:34 GMT
Couldn't we have a thread similarly considering memorable Stoke players and characteristics that we can review and applaud. We could post memories of the great 1970's side, and John Ritchie's hands and knees headed goal against Chelsea! I can't wait though to see someone's take on the "Sam Vokes turn". Wasn't John Ritchie's hands ands knees goal v Southampton, or is that my memory waning? On that note, I cannot imagine any player having enough time to go down on hands and knees to head it over the line. The game has changed so much really! To be fair in those days, a speedy winger or full back would crack the 100 m dash in just under 2 minutes |
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 23, 2022 15:03:49 GMT
Peter Beagrie absolutely loved a Cruyff turn. Why beat a full back once when you can beat him six times?
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 23, 2022 15:16:34 GMT
Couldn't we have a thread similarly considering memorable Stoke players and characteristics that we can review and applaud. We could post memories of the great 1970's side, and John Ritchie's hands and knees headed goal against Chelsea! I can't wait though to see someone's take on the "Sam Vokes turn". Wasn't John Ritchie's hands ands knees goal v Southampton, or is that my memory waning? On that note, I cannot imagine any player having enough time to go down on hands and knees to head it over the line. The game has changed so much really! You could be right. I may have been confused by the thought that the incident was Big John's cheeky response to Peter Osgood's comment that Ritchie could only score goals with his head. Osgood may of course have moved to Southampton by then and that's where I've gone wrong. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 23, 2022 15:25:53 GMT
Couldn't we have a thread similarly considering memorable Stoke players and characteristics that we can review and applaud. We could post memories of the great 1970's side, and John Ritchie's hands and knees headed goal against Chelsea! I can't wait though to see someone's take on the "Sam Vokes turn". Didn't a Vokes turn require at least 10 minutes of extra time? |
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Post by teenagefanclub on Dec 23, 2022 15:38:10 GMT
He’s already had his go!!!
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Post by hamsta2 on Dec 23, 2022 16:48:25 GMT
Good read that.
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Post by dirtclod on Dec 23, 2022 18:56:17 GMT
Ah the "Vokes Turn." Yes I once saw a container-ship execute that in preparation for entry into the Panama Canal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 19:17:06 GMT
Peter Beagrie absolutely loved a Cruyff turn. Why beat a full back once when you can beat him six times? Didn't he apply that to his domestic life aswell? |
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Post by melbournepotter on Dec 23, 2022 19:30:14 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 23, 2022 20:03:12 GMT
Couldn't we have a thread similarly considering memorable Stoke players and characteristics that we can review and applaud. We could post memories of the great 1970's side, and John Ritchie's hands and knees headed goal against Chelsea! I can't wait though to see someone's take on the "Sam Vokes turn". Didn't a Vokes turn require at least 10 minutes of extra time? He attempted it in early 2019 vs Luton and he’s almost finished |
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Post by noustie on Dec 23, 2022 20:45:10 GMT
Ah the "Vokes Turn." Yes I once saw a container-ship execute that in preparation for entry into the Panama Canal. From memory I think Venus is the only planet in the solar system that takes longer to spin on its axis than Sam Vokes. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 24, 2022 8:34:59 GMT
Didn't a Vokes turn require at least 10 minutes of extra time? He attempted it in early 2019 vs Luton and he’s almost finished I believe a Vokes turn can only be captured using stop motion photography - the same kit they use for filming a melting glacier. |
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Dec 24, 2022 8:52:24 GMT
It’s surprising that when I think of John Ritchie scoring the image that comes to mind is him being one on one with the keeper or rounding the keeper. I can’t think he was so quick but he seemed to get beyond the defence pretty easily - in my memory anyway.
The headed goal people are remembering was in response to a jibe about him only being able to score with his head, I can’t remember who it was though.
Another memorable example which I recall was Eddy Clamp on the goal line messing about doing “keepy - uppies” and with the entire Boothen End screaming at him he booted the ball clear at the very last second as the opposition forwards converged on him. Rumour had it that it was Eddy’s birthday and he had had a bit to drink.
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Post by davethebass on Dec 24, 2022 12:31:02 GMT
Ah the "Vokes Turn." Yes I once saw a container-ship execute that in preparation for entry into the Panama Canal. From memory I think Venus is the only planet in the solar system that takes longer to spin on its axis than Sam Vokes. Correct! A Venus day is longer than a Venus year |
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Post by march4 on Dec 24, 2022 13:26:24 GMT
It’s surprising that when I think of John Ritchie scoring the image that comes to mind is him being one on one with the keeper or rounding the keeper. I can’t think he was so quick but he seemed to get beyond the defence pretty easily - in my memory anyway. The headed goal people are remembering was in response to a jibe about him only being able to score with his head, I can’t remember who it was though. Another memorable example which I recall was Eddy Clamp on the goal line messing about doing “keepy - uppies” and with the entire Boothen End screaming at him he booted the ball clear at the very last second as the opposition forwards converged on him. Rumour had it that it was Eddy’s birthday and he had had a bit to drink. Peter Osgood. |
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Post by lexie on Dec 24, 2022 13:50:36 GMT
Wasn't John Ritchie's hands ands knees goal v Southampton, or is that my memory waning? On that note, I cannot imagine any player having enough time to go down on hands and knees to head it over the line. The game has changed so much really! You could be right. I may have been confused by the thought that the incident was Big John's cheeky response to Peter Osgood's comment that Ritchie could only score goals with his head. Osgood may of course have moved to Southampton by then and that's where I've gone wrong. Definitely Southampton as Osgood was sitting behind me in Butler Street stand, I know as I got his autograph |
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 24, 2022 17:24:43 GMT
I didn't realise that Cruyff didn't actually ever win a World Cup or that he only played in one Finals Tournament. Without boasting I wasn't around back then but the way everyone reminisces about him I just assumed he had won a World Cup.
Proof, I guess, that you don't have to have won a major international trophy to be considered one of the greats. It is a daft criteria in my opinion anyway.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 25, 2022 7:54:56 GMT
I didn't realise that Cruyff didn't actually ever win a World Cup or that he only played in one Finals Tournament. Without boasting I wasn't around back then but the way everyone reminisces about him I just assumed he had won a World Cup. Proof, I guess, that you don't have to have won a major international trophy to be considered one of the greats. It is a daft criteria in my opinion anyway. Thing is winning the world cup is a harsh thing to insist on to become the greatest ever. Many great players are from nations who've got no chance . Georges Best and Weah for example. Di Stefano never played in a world cup. Many of the true greats of my era never won it. Zico, Maldini etc. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 25, 2022 8:33:17 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 25, 2022 9:21:25 GMT
I didn't realise that Cruyff didn't actually ever win a World Cup or that he only played in one Finals Tournament. Without boasting I wasn't around back then but the way everyone reminisces about him I just assumed he had won a World Cup. Proof, I guess, that you don't have to have won a major international trophy to be considered one of the greats. It is a daft criteria in my opinion anyway. Thing is winning the world cup is a harsh thing to insist on to become the greatest ever. Many great players are from nations who've got no chance . Georges Best and Weah for example. Di Stefano never played in a world cup. Many of the true greats of my era never won it. Zico, Maldini etc. The good thing about it is that it takes Ronaldo out of the running. So, for that reason, I'm in. |
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 25, 2022 11:03:48 GMT
I didn't realise that Cruyff didn't actually ever win a World Cup or that he only played in one Finals Tournament. Without boasting I wasn't around back then but the way everyone reminisces about him I just assumed he had won a World Cup. Proof, I guess, that you don't have to have won a major international trophy to be considered one of the greats. It is a daft criteria in my opinion anyway. Thing is winning the world cup is a harsh thing to insist on to become the greatest ever. Many great players are from nations who've got no chance . Georges Best and Weah for example. Di Stefano never played in a world cup. Many of the true greats of my era never won it. Zico, Maldini etc. Not forgetting our very own, Sir Stan. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 25, 2022 11:13:34 GMT
Thing is winning the world cup is a harsh thing to insist on to become the greatest ever. Many great players are from nations who've got no chance . Georges Best and Weah for example. Di Stefano never played in a world cup. Many of the true greats of my era never won it. Zico, Maldini etc. The good thing about it is that it takes Ronaldo out of the running. So, for that reason, I'm in. Ronaldo isn't the best Ronaldo 🙂 |
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Post by marrer on Dec 25, 2022 11:25:18 GMT
Ey up Melbourne, havent seen you post before. How's the temp there today. Bloody hot in central NSW but loads of rain when I was in Melbourne last week.Happy Christmas. Rog |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 25, 2022 11:44:56 GMT
Ey up Melbourne, havent seen you post before. How's the temp there today. Bloody hot in central NSW but loads of rain when I was in Melbourne last week.Happy Christmas. Rog Rog, how you bloody doing? Rainy here today. |
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Post by onionman on Dec 25, 2022 19:37:41 GMT
The good thing about it is that it takes Ronaldo out of the running. So, for that reason, I'm in. Ronaldo isn't the best Ronaldo 🙂 He’s not the best Chris either, thanks to Iwelumo. |
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Post by nickhfc on Dec 25, 2022 20:00:12 GMT
The Cruyff turn was invented by Pele; there’s a video that circulated widely on Twitter a couple of weeks ago which showed many of his moves.
I saw John Ritchie’s header: the ball had virtually stopped in the mud, only a couple of yards out. The crowd loved it.
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Post by melbournepotter on Dec 25, 2022 20:17:46 GMT
Ey up Melbourne, havent seen you post before. How's the temp there today. Bloody hot in central NSW but loads of rain when I was in Melbourne last week.Happy Christmas. Rog Warm down here Marrer. We went down the bay to Rye for a few days and the weather alternated from wind and rain, to nice days . It will get to 37 degrees on Tuesday so not sure if its the beach or stay inside with the cooler on that day  ..Happy Christmas to you. |
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