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Post by datguy on Jan 13, 2023 16:41:28 GMT
Was this meant to say £10m + + Iverson? Have been saying for a few weeks. Soutts a great player for us but I don’t think those in the Prem will price him to the extent some on here have been doing. I reckon their opening bid will be £8m or so and told they’ll throw Iverson in there. I can see us accepting £10m + Iverson |
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Post by nonameface on Jan 13, 2023 16:45:35 GMT
Was this meant to say £10m + + Iverson? Have been saying for a few weeks. Soutts a great player for us but I don’t think those in the Prem will price him to the extent some on here have been doing. I reckon their opening bid will be £8m or so and told they’ll throw Iverson in there. I can see us accepting £10m + Iverson Yeah. If we can get high additional fees / sell on clauses, so we could make c£20m out of him it would still be a good deal if Iverson is genuinely worth c£3m. As a football team we are likely to be better off with an excellent keeper at this level with okay defenders, rather than an awful keeper with a stand out defender amongst okay ones. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jan 13, 2023 17:02:12 GMT
£12m rising to £15m with add on's, plus a sell on, plus Iverson. About £20m in total with the sell on. Seems fair to me. If we were to get this kind of deal for Souttar then realistically which CBs would be available to replace him? Have we been linked with any names for CB? Or would it be a case of throwing in Taylor until the Summer? If Harry goes we need a new centre back too, or else what's the point? |
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Post by lordb on Jan 13, 2023 17:50:40 GMT
Surely Iverson isn't valued at more than £3 million, we could get £20 million for Souttar, or should be able to. He's a PL reserve keeper as such it's going to be at least £5m > how long has he got his contract? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 13, 2023 17:58:36 GMT
£12m rising to £15m with add on's, plus a sell on, plus Iverson. About £20m in total with the sell on. Seems fair to me. If we were to get this kind of deal for Souttar then realistically which CBs would be available to replace him? Have we been linked with any names for CB? Or would it be a case of throwing in Taylor until the Summer? No idea mate. I was just throwing that out there to wind old Bert up. |
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Post by harryh157 on Jan 13, 2023 18:11:08 GMT
FFS all these over inflated valuations for Souttar from some of our supporters make me piss myself laughing, we'll be lucky to get £5m for him. Gouranga.  It will be undisclosed because they will not want to admit accepting £8mill plus a small sell on |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 13, 2023 18:12:23 GMT
Yeah agreed...FFP is now starting to impact how teams can even become/stay competitive in this division. There are plenty of teams who have enough money to buy Iverson ...But they are not allowed to afford him unless they sell their crown jewels and reduce their team strength. Its beyond silly now and needs to get sorted . Even lower league teams cant sell their best assets to make money as their player may not be good enough yet to step up to the magic money tree that is the premier league and this league can't spend a few million on lower league players . Farcical yes it is farcical, we could spend the 2 million on Iverson easy with Coates money, Leicester could then spend 2 or so million on an up and coming League 1 player, who may spend 500k on a div 2 player, who may spend 100k on a non league player Decisions like this affect lower league clubs, if you think we have it tough clubs like Bury went bust because of that lack of cash from clubs like ours, and they call this fair play!!! Try telling that to the tea lady, the groundsman, the turnstile op who lost her job because of all this fairness But we cannot wish to upset the bigger clubs, we need to know our place, it wouldn't be good for football if Liverpool, Man U, Citeh or Chelsea were not up there, how the fuck would Sky put up with that. It genuinly makes me want to go and take up following another sport. Rant over! FFP isn’t the reason Bury went bust. Quite the opposite they were spending money it turned out they didn’t have. And even with no FFP we would not compete with the big clubs, they turn over at least £200million a year more than the rest of the PL. Even our owners can’t bridge that gap - they didn’t spend all FFP allowed when we were in the PL. FFP does impact competition between the low end PL and Championship but the bigger issue is how the TV money is shared. FFP is only a problem for us, most other relegated clubs have coped, because our transfers were so bad after 2017 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 18:26:18 GMT
That would be utter lunacy, accepting 10 million plus Iverson. 15 million plus iversen at least
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 13, 2023 19:55:42 GMT
That would be utter lunacy, accepting 10 million plus Iverson. 15 million plus iversen at least Transfer fees since covid have smashed anyone thinking we will get 15+ is deluded, especially when we got lower than that for collins. 10 plus iversen and a good sell on clause would be good. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 20:00:58 GMT
That would be utter lunacy, accepting 10 million plus Iverson. 15 million plus iversen at least Transfer fees since covid have smashed anyone thinking we will get 15+ is deluded, especially when we got lower than that for collins. 10 plus iversen and a good sell on clause would be good. I completely disagree. Who the hell are we going to sign for ten million that can come near to replacing him? Who? We are better keeping him if that's the offer. It's ridiculous. He's got ten years or more as a top level center back ahead of him. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 13, 2023 20:12:58 GMT
That would be utter lunacy, accepting 10 million plus Iverson. 15 million plus iversen at least Transfer fees since covid have smashed anyone thinking we will get 15+ is deluded, especially when we got lower than that for collins. 10 plus iversen and a good sell on clause would be good. Where ever did you come up with that idea. Fees paid by football league clubs have crashed. Premier League clubs are purcasing players for bigger fees than ever. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 13, 2023 20:21:23 GMT
That would be utter lunacy, accepting 10 million plus Iverson. 15 million plus iversen at least Transfer fees since covid have smashed anyone thinking we will get 15+ is deluded, especially when we got lower than that for collins. 10 plus iversen and a good sell on clause would be good. Didn't the Prem just break the record for most money spent on transfer fees in the last window? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 13, 2023 20:29:36 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 13, 2023 20:36:07 GMT
10 million plus a decent keeper would be a good deal. I don’t see Souttar value getting any higher playing for a bottom half championship team.
Now spending wisely would be the bigger issue
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Post by collo68 on Jan 13, 2023 20:42:49 GMT
Aren’t we missing the point re Soutar. We aren’t going up this season so what’s the point of selling him now ?
If we have a load more money for next season and have half the squad out of contract then let’s review it then when we can shape the whole side
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 13, 2023 20:45:26 GMT
More clubs than Tiger Woods. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 13, 2023 20:47:05 GMT
Aren’t we missing the point re Soutar. We aren’t going up this season so what’s the point of selling him now ? If we have a load more money for next season and have half the squad out of contract then let’s review it then when we can shape the whole side We'd need to find someone else to fund the rebuild if we want it to start in January. The other one is to risk it and hope we survive. I'm not so sure about that |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 13, 2023 20:54:28 GMT
10 million plus a decent keeper would be a good deal. I don’t see Souttar value getting any higher playing for a bottom half championship team. Now spending wisely would be the bigger issue I think we should be getting more than we did from the Collins deal. Harry is far more established and has had far greater exposure, is a full international and a major cog in our team. IMO Collins was non of those things it was a deal purely based on potential. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 13, 2023 20:59:12 GMT
10 million plus a decent keeper would be a good deal. I don’t see Souttar value getting any higher playing for a bottom half championship team. Now spending wisely would be the bigger issue I think we should be getting more than we did from the Collins deal. Harry is far more established and has had far greater exposure, is a full international and a major cog in our team. IMO Collins was non of those things it was a deal purely based on potential. Take your point but is he actually as good as Collins? I don’t think so. Happy to be proved wrong of course |
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Post by lordb on Jan 13, 2023 21:02:10 GMT
Aren’t we missing the point re Soutar. We aren’t going up this season so what’s the point of selling him now ? If we have a load more money for next season and have half the squad out of contract then let’s review it then when we can shape the whole side We need to stay up If we get a big enough offer for H then that could mean 3 key players signing However if H stays feel far more happy with him in the team than without All about 'how much' |
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 13, 2023 21:07:37 GMT
Aren’t we missing the point re Soutar. We aren’t going up this season so what’s the point of selling him now ? If we have a load more money for next season and have half the squad out of contract then let’s review it then when we can shape the whole side We'd need to find someone else to fund the rebuild if we want it to start in January. The other one is to risk it and hope we survive. I'm not so sure about that Tymon and Baker would fetch some money I reckon. Both had brilliant seasons last year and that will have been noted by interested clubs if we made them available. I’d also happily sell or swap Campbell for a right winger. There’s plenty of business we can do without selling Harry. |
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 13, 2023 21:10:13 GMT
I think we should be getting more than we did from the Collins deal. Harry is far more established and has had far greater exposure, is a full international and a major cog in our team. IMO Collins was non of those things it was a deal purely based on potential. Take your point but is he actually as good as Collins? I don’t think so. Happy to be proved wrong of course We’ll never know how good Collins could have been for us, as MON played him more as a RB than CB. Those few times he played as CB for us he really did shine. Had we installed Collins as a regular CB we’d have been able to sell for close to what Harry’s worth now I reckon. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 13, 2023 21:12:27 GMT
10 million plus a decent keeper would be a good deal. I don’t see Souttar value getting any higher playing for a bottom half championship team. Now spending wisely would be the bigger issue I think we should be getting more than we did from the Collins deal. Harry is far more established and has had far greater exposure, is a full international and a major cog in our team. IMO Collins was non of those things it was a deal purely based on potential. I think you need to compare/differentiate between EFL, EPL, international appearances and age. I think Collins is slightly in front |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 13, 2023 21:17:26 GMT
We'd need to find someone else to fund the rebuild if we want it to start in January. The other one is to risk it and hope we survive. I'm not so sure about that Tymon and Baker would fetch some money I reckon. Both had brilliant seasons last year and that will have been noted by interested clubs if we made them available. I’d also happily sell or swap Campbell for a right winger. There’s plenty of business we can do without selling Harry. Without Prem interest I don't think we'd get much for either of them. Especially Baker, he smashed it at first but looks completely lost this season, I'm not sure anyone would take him outside of the Champ. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 13, 2023 21:21:30 GMT
We'd need to find someone else to fund the rebuild if we want it to start in January. The other one is to risk it and hope we survive. I'm not so sure about that Tymon and Baker would fetch some money I reckon. Both had brilliant seasons last year and that will have been noted by interested clubs if we made them available. I’d also happily sell or swap Campbell for a right winger. There’s plenty of business we can do without selling Harry. Yeah I get that but to do that we need an offer for one of them. The moment you hawk a player you are saying you want to get rid and that slashes the price people are willing to pay. |
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Post by collo68 on Jan 13, 2023 22:08:48 GMT
Aren’t we missing the point re Soutar. We aren’t going up this season so what’s the point of selling him now ? If we have a load more money for next season and have half the squad out of contract then let’s review it then when we can shape the whole side We need to stay up If we get a big enough offer for H then that could mean 3 key players signing However if H stays feel far more happy with him in the team than without All about 'how much' There’s no chance we will be relegated |
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Post by lordb on Jan 13, 2023 22:10:36 GMT
We need to stay up If we get a big enough offer for H then that could mean 3 key players signing However if H stays feel far more happy with him in the team than without All about 'how much' There’s no chance we will be relegated Check the table out And our home form Not saying we are doomed but surely we have to be concerned 'no chance'? Thats naive tbh with you |
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Post by collo68 on Jan 13, 2023 22:12:45 GMT
There’s no chance we will be relegated Check the table out And our home form Not saying we are doomed but surely we have to be concerned 'no chance'? Thats naive tbh with you It’s not naive at all it’s my opinion and the bookies think the same |
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Post by lordb on Jan 13, 2023 22:15:49 GMT
Check the table out And our home form Not saying we are doomed but surely we have to be concerned 'no chance'? Thats naive tbh with you It’s not naive at all it’s my opinion and the bookies think the same What odds can you get! Surely if its no chance it will be 10.1 or longer? Edit: just checked the table again in case I'd mis- read it 4 points off the bottom 3 That's a concern |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 13, 2023 22:20:18 GMT
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