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Post by march4 on Jan 31, 2023 9:08:37 GMT
One is already a PL player going to the next level. The other is an unproven player at that level. Whilst I agree Gordon probably isn’t worth £40m, in todays market I’m not surprised he’s gone for that. In today's market Souttar should be going for at least £20 million then. He has played a handful of games after an injury that could have ended his career. Bound to affect the money up front. Add-ons will be interesting.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 31, 2023 9:08:58 GMT
It's the 5th anniversary of us spending £15m on Badou Ndiaye. At least we can be consoled we won't so anything as batshit as that today Decent player who downed tools when he wasn't in the Premiership anymore. Compared with 18m for Wimmer who didn't actually have any tools to down it was money well spent.
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Post by Goonie on Jan 31, 2023 9:11:23 GMT
Hmm seems some potentially over the hill plodders will be brought in to see us to the summer, lovely stuff. Id be expecting to see Steve cook and Ashley Barnes here by tonight and that would with the new keeper pretty much guarantee our safety and add real bite in both cases the only real objective , id say it would be the best window and most sensible window for at least 5 years and another sign of small logical steps in a turnaround on and off the pitch As others have said we need to tick over until the summer and hopefully survive. Old heads and legs wouldn't be the worst we could do on short contracts or loanees
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2023 9:12:34 GMT
Maximum 18 month contracts if we go for Barnes/Cook, surely?
Even then, you might be grimacing at the back end of next season
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Post by David Brent on Jan 31, 2023 9:14:15 GMT
Meanwhile Luton are signing Nakamba
He will tear us apart on Saturday…
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 31, 2023 9:14:39 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 31, 2023 9:22:12 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 31, 2023 9:22:36 GMT
One is already a PL player going to the next level. The other is an unproven player at that level. Whilst I agree Gordon probably isn’t worth £40m, in todays market I’m not surprised he’s gone for that. In today's market Souttar should be going for at least £20 million then. Bournemouth reported to be spending £24M on Ilya Zabarnyi - 20 y old CB with 40 games in Ukraine under his belt. Any less for Souttar is madness.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 31, 2023 9:22:40 GMT
Maximum 18 month contracts if we go for Barnes/Cook, surely? Even then, you might be grimacing at the back end of next season You would think yes Cook 32 in April Barnes 34 in October Both seem to be at the end of their careers and slower at making decisions cook especially when he’s played looks like a walking booking
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2023 9:22:49 GMT
Brum and Luton also mentioned with Cook
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 31, 2023 9:23:27 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2023 9:25:17 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 31, 2023 9:32:59 GMT
Brum and Luton also mentioned with Cook Fuck I hope they win. What they really need is Ashley fucking Barnes as well.
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Post by David Brent on Jan 31, 2023 9:38:19 GMT
Sheff utd getting 20 million for Sander Berge and we are getting 15 million including add ons for souttar?
What the fuck is this
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Post by David Brent on Jan 31, 2023 9:39:31 GMT
Ashley Barnes I’d be slightly ok with
Proper shithouse
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 31, 2023 9:45:48 GMT
Sheff utd getting 20 million for Sander Berge and we are getting 15 million including add ons for souttar? What the fuck is this If the add ins aren’t something like extra £1M for every 4 starts and 30 per cent of any sell on, then it’s a stupid give away.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 31, 2023 9:46:25 GMT
Sheff utd getting 20 million for Sander Berge and we are getting 15 million including add ons for souttar? What the fuck is this Premier league experience
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 31, 2023 9:47:51 GMT
I thought the perceived wisdom was not to make wholesale changes of 5 or 6 players at one go as integrating them all is too difficult. Or does that only apply when we only have a couple to do?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 9:48:06 GMT
With Onomah going to Preston, I wouldn't be shocked to see one of their midfielders rock up here by 11pm.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 31, 2023 9:48:09 GMT
Sheff utd getting 20 million for Sander Berge and we are getting 15 million including add ons for souttar? What the fuck is this I don’t quite get your point Berge is excellent and has already moved for big bucks so Sheff Utd will have more amortisation of him as an asset to clear. In any case I wouldn’t find it astounding that he was worth more than Souttar, maybe you’re getting a bit carried away about how good he is. He’s by no means certain to be a hit in the Prem.
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Post by EccyStokie on Jan 31, 2023 9:48:57 GMT
It's the 5th anniversary of us spending £15m on Badou Ndiaye. At least we can be consoled we won't so anything as batshit as that today Decent player who downed tools when he wasn't in the Premiership anymore. Compared with 18m for Wimmer who didn't actually have any tools to down it was money well spent. Wimmer should have downed his knife and fork once in a while.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 31, 2023 9:50:21 GMT
Ashley Barnes I’d be slightly ok with Proper shit Sorted that for you.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 31, 2023 9:51:25 GMT
Expect Forest to see Stoke awash with Souttar cash and take us for a few million loan fee for Cook.
Burnley will remember the Vokes deal and ask double for Barnes( some clown at Stoke will probably go for it)
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Post by redphizzer on Jan 31, 2023 9:52:07 GMT
All well and good saying £15m is a good deal for Souttar and that it can be used to improve the team. BUT when have we ever re-invested well after selling our better players for big money. What happened with the players we bought with Collins' fee? The same with the £20m for Arnie! Going back even further, the money from Steino and Sheron!!
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Post by st3mark on Jan 31, 2023 9:53:01 GMT
I thought the perceived wisdom was not to make wholesale changes of 5 or 6 players at one go as integrating them all is too difficult. Or does that only apply when we only have a couple to do? I think when the entire squad are spineless and don't seem to have any harmony or personality then it's safer to make as many changes as possible
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Post by march4 on Jan 31, 2023 9:53:52 GMT
Expect Forest to see Stoke awash with Souttar cash and take us for a few million loan fee for Cook. Burnley will remember the Vokes deal and ask double for Barnes( some clown at Stoke will probably go for it) Would you play poker with Alex Neil? He is shrewd cookie.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 31, 2023 9:54:41 GMT
It's the 5th anniversary of us spending £15m on Badou Ndiaye. At least we can be consoled we won't so anything as batshit as that today Decent player who downed tools when he wasn't in the Premiership anymore. Compared with 18m for Wimmer who didn't actually have any tools to down it was money well spent. Wimmer WAS a big tool!
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Post by LankyPotter on Jan 31, 2023 9:55:41 GMT
With Onomah going to Preston, I wouldn't be shocked to see one of their midfielders rock up here by 11pm. Whiteman maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 9:56:30 GMT
With Onomah going to Preston, I wouldn't be shocked to see one of their midfielders rock up here by 11pm. Whiteman maybe? Has been linked away to the PL. Was thinking more Daniel Johnson or Ryan Ledson.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 31, 2023 9:57:42 GMT
All well and good saying £15m is a good deal for Souttar and that it can be used to improve the team. BUT when have we ever re-invested well after selling our better players for big money. What happened with the players we bought with Collins' fee? The same with the £20m for Arnie! Going back even further, the money from Steino and Sheron!! You do realise that if you don’t sell them you eventually lose them for nothing after pissing them off and in the process get a reputation as a club that blocks players career progress. Very shortsighted.
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