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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Jan 25, 2023 9:40:28 GMT
Wonder if we are saving the money till the summer that’s if soutts is going of course??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 9:41:12 GMT
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 25, 2023 9:41:25 GMT
Is it inconceivable that a same name might appear on both MON and AN lists? There are probably quite a fair few names on them, the majority of which we will never hear about. Like Albert Slapdick! 😂😂😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 25, 2023 9:46:52 GMT
And do we know that Coates Jnr doesn't meddle? Is there any evidence to suggest he does? It’ll be a Cousins job that Neil has signed off on, surely? I think there's enough to suggest he's involved isn't there? Like there was with Scholes. Which seems a bit too much.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 25, 2023 9:48:03 GMT
Is there any evidence to suggest he does? It’ll be a Cousins job that Neil has signed off on, surely? I think there's enough to suggest he's involved isn't there? Like there was with Scholes. Which seems a bit too much. Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 25, 2023 9:48:46 GMT
Neil also wanted to sign him when he was at Preston. Oh really, fair enough then.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 25, 2023 9:49:50 GMT
I think there's enough to suggest he's involved isn't there? Like there was with Scholes. Which seems a bit too much. Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. Wasn't Berahino a Scholes signing? Sure it's been reported. Who signed Bauer and Badou too? we didn't even have a manager.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 25, 2023 9:49:51 GMT
I think there's enough to suggest he's involved isn't there? Like there was with Scholes. Which seems a bit too much. Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. From Scholes' point of view it always depended on how we were doing. If we were doing well he was only too happy to be identifed as being a full part of the process and getting the slaps on the back. When it went to shit, he was like the invisible man!
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Post by tony10 on Jan 25, 2023 9:49:58 GMT
I think there's enough to suggest he's involved isn't there? Like there was with Scholes. Which seems a bit too much. Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. I don’t think AN is the type of manager to have his players chosen for him
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 25, 2023 9:52:02 GMT
I think there's enough to suggest he's involved isn't there? Like there was with Scholes. Which seems a bit too much. Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. What LGH said re Scholes. And there's stuff that's been inferred for sure.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 25, 2023 9:54:50 GMT
Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. From Scholes' point of view it always depended on how we were doing. If we were doing well he was only too happy to be identifed as being a full part of the process and getting the slaps on the back. When it went to shit, he was like the invisible man! I don’t recall him ever claiming he was involved in identifying players?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 9:54:53 GMT
Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. What LGH said re Scholes. And there's stuff that's been inferred for sure. In his last meet the board meeting he pretty much pointed to the way Liverpool run, that we’ve pretty much copied it and that he sat on the football board as a key person - so it pretty much implies he is actively involved with transfers etc. Yes, he and they can say the manager has the final say but you don’t know what else is going on in the meetings. Hopefully Ricky Ricky’s arrival means he is now taking a proper back seat.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 25, 2023 9:56:30 GMT
Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. Wasn't Berahino a Scholes signing? Sure it's been reported. Who signed Bauer and Badou too? we didn't even have a manager. He was a Hughes signing? Bauer and Badou were both in the works under the Hughes regime and we pushed them through after he was sacked. Carto would presumably have got them over the line?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 25, 2023 9:58:05 GMT
What LGH said re Scholes. And there's stuff that's been inferred for sure. In his last meet the board meeting he pretty much pointed to the way Liverpool run, that we’ve pretty much copied it and that he sat on the football board as a key person - so it pretty much implies he is actively involved with transfers etc. Yes, he and they can say the manager has the final say but you don’t know what else is going on in the meetings. Hopefully Ricky Ricky’s arrival means he is now taking a proper back seat. Yeah I thought he said something in that. And there's just other stuff I've heard too. Not terrible stuff but having an opinion at that level, which seems dangerous?
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 25, 2023 9:58:42 GMT
From Scholes' point of view it always depended on how we were doing. If we were doing well he was only too happy to be identifed as being a full part of the process and getting the slaps on the back. When it went to shit, he was like the invisible man! I don’t recall him ever claiming he was involved in identifying players? He certainly identified himself as being a key part in every aspect of the transfer team, in a quite sickening Spinks Sentinel article at the time.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 25, 2023 10:00:05 GMT
I don’t recall him ever claiming he was involved in identifying players? He certainly identified himself as being a key part in every aspect of the transfer team, in a quite sickening Spinks Sentinel article at the time. That was Carto I think mate.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 25, 2023 10:06:01 GMT
Wasn't he a target in the summer and couldn't get a work permit? worries me that he's not a AN target a bit this. Yes it was himWho’s still at the club though who would have helped come up with targets in the summer? Other than the top top brass? Everyone else has gone haven’t they? Johns flickin through last years Panini sticker album and 'picking out gems'
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 25, 2023 10:08:20 GMT
He certainly identified himself as being a key part in every aspect of the transfer team, in a quite sickening Spinks Sentinel article at the time. That was Carto I think mate. That was a seperate sickenng self congratulatory article mate! This one was a full on Scholes vindication piece saying its great to be proved right etc!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 10:09:17 GMT
In his last meet the board meeting he pretty much pointed to the way Liverpool run, that we’ve pretty much copied it and that he sat on the football board as a key person - so it pretty much implies he is actively involved with transfers etc. Yes, he and they can say the manager has the final say but you don’t know what else is going on in the meetings. Hopefully Ricky Ricky’s arrival means he is now taking a proper back seat. Yeah I thought he said something in that. And there's just other stuff I've heard too. Not terrible stuff but having an opinion at that level, which seems dangerous? It is in it’s current structure for certain. They just need to employ a football guru upstairs, let him run with it and make him accountable for key KPI’s. Job done.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 25, 2023 10:13:13 GMT
What LGH said re Scholes. And there's stuff that's been inferred for sure. In his last meet the board meeting he pretty much pointed to the way Liverpool run, that we’ve pretty much copied it and that he sat on the football board as a key person - so it pretty much implies he is actively involved with transfers etc. Yes, he and they can say the manager has the final say but you don’t know what else is going on in the meetings. Hopefully Ricky Ricky’s arrival means he is now taking a proper back seat. Jon Coates and some bean counter were on the technical board with MON and Cousins so I’d imagine they still are but now with Neil and Ricky. It’s a technical board with a distinct lack of technical knowledge, experience or independence of the manager. I don’t see how that is a copy of the way Liverpool operate on footballing decisions.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 25, 2023 10:13:42 GMT
That was Carto I think mate. That was a seperate sickenng self congratulatory article mate! This one was a full on Scholes vindication piece saying its great to be proved right etc! Fair enough mate. I can find the Carto one, can’t find the one on Spinks. As incompetent as he was I don’t buy for one second that he interfered in terms of who we signed, whatever he claims credit for. The profile of signing under the various managers makes that clear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 10:17:27 GMT
In his last meet the board meeting he pretty much pointed to the way Liverpool run, that we’ve pretty much copied it and that he sat on the football board as a key person - so it pretty much implies he is actively involved with transfers etc. Yes, he and they can say the manager has the final say but you don’t know what else is going on in the meetings. Hopefully Ricky Ricky’s arrival means he is now taking a proper back seat. Jon Coates and some bean counter were on the technical board with MON and Cousins so I’d imagine they still are but now with Neil and Ricky. It’s a technical board with a distinct lack of technical knowledge, experience or independence of the manager. I don’t see how that is a copy of the way Liverpool operate on footballing decisions. I agree, but that was the implication from the joint chairman! Personally speaking, the chairman shouldn’t have any involvement in any of that. He should employ key people to run those types of meetings and they report back to him.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 25, 2023 11:22:42 GMT
Wasn't he a target in the summer and couldn't get a work permit? worries me that he's not a AN target a bit this. Yes it was him Who’s still at the club though who would have helped come up with targets in the summer? Other than the top top brass? Everyone else has gone haven’t they? Mavis the Tea Lady!
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 25, 2023 11:30:21 GMT
Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. Wasn't Berahino a Scholes signing? Sure it's been reported. Who signed Bauer and Badou too? we didn't even have a manager. Scholes got the Berahino signing done when it seemed it would never happen but it was all driven by what Mark Hughes wanted.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 25, 2023 11:52:30 GMT
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Post by crowey on Jan 25, 2023 11:54:38 GMT
…. errrrr, agent’s happy club maybe?
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Post by crowey on Jan 25, 2023 11:56:11 GMT
….. would be good for Marge’s development
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Post by lordb on Jan 25, 2023 12:19:35 GMT
Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. Wasn't Berahino a Scholes signing? Sure it's been reported. Who signed Bauer and Badou too? we didn't even have a manager. Scholes (good riddance by the way) was dead against the Berahino signing that was a Hughes one
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Post by Bagwash on Jan 25, 2023 12:29:34 GMT
….. would be good for Marge’s development As long as it's not our noisy neighbours from up the road.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 25, 2023 12:34:56 GMT
Is there? Like what? I don’t think there was anything to suggest Scholes was involved in identifying players or that any signings were imposed on an incumbent manager. From Scholes' point of view it always depended on how we were doing. If we were doing well he was only too happy to be identifed as being a full part of the process and getting the slaps on the back. When it went to shit, he was like the invisible man! Who employed Cartwright? Who signed Bauer, N’Daiye and Stafylidis?
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