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Post by lordb on Jan 22, 2023 9:37:45 GMT
Another non scoring forward We need a target man to keep the ball and build off, Campbell, Gayle and Brown will all score goals playing off a target man. You’ve completely missed the point of what we need here mate. We need our new Mama! A goalscoring target man would be brilliant but it’s not actually the main thing we need from our next new forward. I haven't, I understand and agree we need a target man, just don't want to replace one problem with a different problem I'm greedy, target man who scores at least a reasonable amount
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 22, 2023 9:39:05 GMT
Can't see Tezgel going out on loan. He's very young and needs careful handling, not loads of games. Neil obviously rates him very highly and will want to keep him close. I think he’d be fine for a loan to a league one or two club tbh. He’s going to be playing lots of football anyway with the 23s and 18s. I think the next logical step is for him to move up again and see if he cope with the rough and tumble week in week out. Not this season, maybe next. His body is growing and still adapting to training every day. I think you just have to look at what has happened to Radacanu since playing full time tennis to realise how vulnerable a young body can be.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 22, 2023 9:42:03 GMT
I think he’d be fine for a loan to a league one or two club tbh. He’s going to be playing lots of football anyway with the 23s and 18s. I think the next logical step is for him to move up again and see if he cope with the rough and tumble week in week out. Not this season, maybe next. His body is growing and still adapting to training every day. I think you just have to look at what has happened to Radacanu since playing full time tennis to realise how vulnerable a young body can be. Why hold him back? He’d play 15 games at most and it’d be great for him. Tbh I’d rather he got games here for now coming off the bench and he has to start in the cup.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 22, 2023 9:54:10 GMT
Nixon seems to think Gelhardt could be tempted by "bigger" clubs such as Stoke and Coventry over a return to Wigan. Can’t see it as he’s not the target man type.
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Post by a on Jan 22, 2023 10:06:51 GMT
Not this season, maybe next. His body is growing and still adapting to training every day. I think you just have to look at what has happened to Radacanu since playing full time tennis to realise how vulnerable a young body can be. Why hold him back? He’d play 15 games at most and it’d be great for him. Tbh I’d rather he got games here for now coming off the bench and he has to start in the cup. Pretty confident he’ll struggle at this level. Try him and find out but I think L2 would be better for his development
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 22, 2023 10:07:46 GMT
Why hold him back? He’d play 15 games at most and it’d be great for him. Tbh I’d rather he got games here for now coming off the bench and he has to start in the cup. Pretty confident he’ll struggle at this level. Try him and find out but I think L2 would be better for his development I’m not sure he’d score many yet at this level but I think his general game would be fine.
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Jan 22, 2023 10:14:56 GMT
Nixon seems to think Gelhardt could be tempted by "bigger" clubs such as Stoke and Coventry over a return to Wigan. Can’t see it as he’s not the target man type. Creative type who can play wide and behind the striker. But not what we need in my opinion.
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 22, 2023 10:46:00 GMT
Sounds like there'll be at least one wide player "We want to bring some players in that'll be more creative, and maybe look for the strikers' forward runs and those forward passes. I don't think it's as simple as the forwards not taking chances. Your team needs to complement each other - and we've got a team more than capable of playing 3-5-2 and hopefully if we can add a bit of variation before the deadline, we'll have another string to our bow in terms of playing a different shape if necessary" I'm really surprised he's looking towards 3-5-2 as his preferred formation. Up until his Sunderland days, he rarely ever went with three at the back. I was actually hoping we could build on the 3-5-2 foundations that MON had started rather than tear up the script again, but when AN came in I thought we'd be heading to a back four again, especially as Neil has preferred deploying two holding midfielders in recent games. If we do settle on three at the back, we're back to the same conundrums as needing a left-footed LCB and a ball-playing CB to replace Harry. It also means we should be looking to keep Tymon after all. Yesterday, it appeared Campbell and Brown were deployed as wide forwards and that seemed to work well rather than playing two up front. If AN is looking for wingers, you'd think that's the way he's looking to shape the team rather than a 3-5-2.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 22, 2023 11:01:17 GMT
Sounds like a midfield player who can pick a pass forward more to me..Alex Pritchard, come on down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 11:11:28 GMT
Sounds like there'll be at least one wide player "We want to bring some players in that'll be more creative, and maybe look for the strikers' forward runs and those forward passes. I don't think it's as simple as the forwards not taking chances. Your team needs to complement each other - and we've got a team more than capable of playing 3-5-2 and hopefully if we can add a bit of variation before the deadline, we'll have another string to our bow in terms of playing a different shape if necessary" I'm really surprised he's looking towards 3-5-2 as his preferred formation. Up until his Sunderland days, he rarely ever went with three at the back. I was actually hoping we could build on the 3-5-2 foundations that MON had started rather than tear up the script again, but when AN came in I thought we'd be heading to a back four again, especially as Neil has preferred deploying two holding midfielders in recent games. If we do settle on three at the back, we're back to the same conundrums as needing a left-footed LCB and a ball-playing CB to replace Harry. It also means we should be looking to keep Tymon after all. Yesterday, it appeared Campbell and Brown were deployed as wide forwards and that seemed to work well rather than playing two up front. If AN is looking for wingers, you'd think that's the way he's looking to shape the team rather than a 3-5-2. Brown looked to be playing wing back to me. Until Campbell came off and then he took his place in a more advanced, more central position. I agree though, the squad was built for a 352, that’s the formation we should look to continue to bring players in to suit. If we can do a massive overhaul, we wait until the Summer.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 22, 2023 11:35:01 GMT
I'm really surprised he's looking towards 3-5-2 as his preferred formation. Up until his Sunderland days, he rarely ever went with three at the back. I was actually hoping we could build on the 3-5-2 foundations that MON had started rather than tear up the script again, but when AN came in I thought we'd be heading to a back four again, especially as Neil has preferred deploying two holding midfielders in recent games. If we do settle on three at the back, we're back to the same conundrums as needing a left-footed LCB and a ball-playing CB to replace Harry. It also means we should be looking to keep Tymon after all. Yesterday, it appeared Campbell and Brown were deployed as wide forwards and that seemed to work well rather than playing two up front. If AN is looking for wingers, you'd think that's the way he's looking to shape the team rather than a 3-5-2. Brown looked to be playing wing back to me. Until Campbell came off and then he took his place in a more advanced, more central position. I agree though, the squad was built for a 352, that’s the formation we should look to continue to bring players in to suit. If we can do a massive overhaul, we wait until the Summer. 352 makes sense not only in terms of our squad but also matching up most teams we come up against. Pitting 2 central midfielders against the oppositions 3 is a recipie for losing the vital midfield battleground. We have to get more output from the WB's Tymon can do it from the left even though he hasn't been as good as he was last season. Can Sterling stay fit and do it on the right or is he too defensive?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 11:42:22 GMT
Brown looked to be playing wing back to me. Until Campbell came off and then he took his place in a more advanced, more central position. I agree though, the squad was built for a 352, that’s the formation we should look to continue to bring players in to suit. If we can do a massive overhaul, we wait until the Summer. 352 makes sense not only in terms of our squad but also matching up most teams we come up against. Pitting 2 central midfielders against the oppositions 3 is a recipie for losing the vital midfield battleground. We have to get more output from the WB's Tymon can do it from the left even though he hasn't been as good as he was last season. Can Sterling stay fit and do it on the right or is he too defensive? I’d return Sterling if we could. He’s the Powell of that position without the impact on the game when he is fit. At this point, we’ve just paid for his physiotherapy. Terrible signing.
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Post by lordb on Jan 22, 2023 11:47:22 GMT
Sounds like there'll be at least one wide player "We want to bring some players in that'll be more creative, and maybe look for the strikers' forward runs and those forward passes. I don't think it's as simple as the forwards not taking chances. Your team needs to complement each other - and we've got a team more than capable of playing 3-5-2 and hopefully if we can add a bit of variation before the deadline, we'll have another string to our bow in terms of playing a different shape if necessary" I'm really surprised he's looking towards 3-5-2 as his preferred formation. Up until his Sunderland days, he rarely ever went with three at the back. I was actually hoping we could build on the 3-5-2 foundations that MON had started rather than tear up the script again, but when AN came in I thought we'd be heading to a back four again, especially as Neil has preferred deploying two holding midfielders in recent games. If we do settle on three at the back, we're back to the same conundrums as needing a left-footed LCB and a ball-playing CB to replace Harry. It also means we should be looking to keep Tymon after all. Yesterday, it appeared Campbell and Brown were deployed as wide forwards and that seemed to work well rather than playing two up front. If AN is looking for wingers, you'd think that's the way he's looking to shape the team rather than a 3-5-2. He didn't say it was his preferred formation He reiterated that this squad is set up that way
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Post by pmjh on Jan 22, 2023 11:55:20 GMT
I think with the difficulty in signing players in this window we might stay with 3.5.2. until the summer. Then we might have more oppurtunity to recruit players to change the system.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 22, 2023 12:24:28 GMT
352 makes sense not only in terms of our squad but also matching up most teams we come up against. Pitting 2 central midfielders against the oppositions 3 is a recipie for losing the vital midfield battleground. We have to get more output from the WB's Tymon can do it from the left even though he hasn't been as good as he was last season. Can Sterling stay fit and do it on the right or is he too defensive? I’d return Sterling if we could. He’s the Powell of that position without the impact on the game when he is fit. At this point, we’ve just paid for his physiotherapy. Terrible signing. He seems to be OK when fit, I know that hasn't been often enough. He's out of contract in the Summer so I'd keep him to see if he can stay fit and if so whether he's worth offering a contract to. He's a better footballer than Clarke and he's just gone for a million. That said I think he's a WB with a defensive bias and I prefer WB's & FB's with an attacking bias.
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Jan 22, 2023 13:44:29 GMT
Stoke in talks with Birmingham over a move for Neal Etheridge. Stoke main target is Daniel Iversen but Etheridge is a back up if that move does not happen. (Alan Nixon)
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Post by crouchbot on Jan 22, 2023 13:57:30 GMT
Stoke in talks with Birmingham over a move for Neal Etheridge. Stoke main target is Daniel Iversen but Etheridge is a back up if that move does not happen. (Alan Nixon) Nixon… that won’t be happening then!
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 22, 2023 14:07:01 GMT
Stoke in talks with Birmingham over a move for Neal Etheridge. Stoke main target is Daniel Iversen but Etheridge is a back up if that move does not happen. (Alan Nixon) Nixon… that won’t be happening then! Hope so, no.2 at Blues and no real upgrade on Bonham.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 22, 2023 14:30:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 14:36:03 GMT
Iverson would be brilliant, right age and a good player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 14:49:38 GMT
I’d return Sterling if we could. He’s the Powell of that position without the impact on the game when he is fit. At this point, we’ve just paid for his physiotherapy. Terrible signing. He seems to be OK when fit, I know that hasn't been often enough. He's out of contract in the Summer so I'd keep him to see if he can stay fit and if so whether he's worth offering a contract to. He's a better footballer than Clarke and he's just gone for a million. That said I think he's a WB with a defensive bias and I prefer WB's & FB's with an attacking bias. The problem is though, he’s featured in 8 league games. 8. What’s the point in a football player who rarely plays football? He’s 23 and came in with a history of injuries. If he stays fit for the majority of the remainder of the season, I’d not be upset if we tried to sign him. However, at present I’d rather pay a wage to Clarke, who at least is fit enough to provide a regular option.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 15:07:48 GMT
Nixon… that won’t be happening then! Hope so, no.2 at Blues and no real upgrade on Bonham. He's a far better keeper than Bonham. Would be a sensible signing
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 22, 2023 15:16:08 GMT
Always thought Etheridge was alright but being number 2 at Blues isnt exactly a ringing endorsement. That said, I rate Ruddy aswell
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jan 22, 2023 15:46:47 GMT
He seems to be OK when fit, I know that hasn't been often enough. He's out of contract in the Summer so I'd keep him to see if he can stay fit and if so whether he's worth offering a contract to. He's a better footballer than Clarke and he's just gone for a million. That said I think he's a WB with a defensive bias and I prefer WB's & FB's with an attacking bias. The problem is though, he’s featured in 8 league games. 8. What’s the point in a football player who rarely plays football? He’s 23 and came in with a history of injuries. If he stays fit for the majority of the remainder of the season, I’d not be upset if we tried to sign him. However, at present I’d rather pay a wage to Clarke, who at least is fit enough to provide a regular option. Naah I didn't think Clarke provided anything at WB that can't be got out of Brown who would be at the bottom of the striker pecking order for me. Very much the same thing, all energy and enthusiasm and very little technical ability. It's not something I'd pay to watch. I know tons of Stoke fans love it weirdo's.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 22, 2023 15:54:58 GMT
Hope so, no.2 at Blues and no real upgrade on Bonham. He's a far better keeper than Bonham. Would be a sensible signing Is he?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 22, 2023 15:56:10 GMT
Watched him play for crewe years ago, don't remember much about him though.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 22, 2023 16:06:33 GMT
Just wondering if us and Leicester will purposely do the souttar deal late.
AN said he was out of the reading game and probably the next. I don't see the benefit of us selling him say tomorrow, then going all up to the window chasing targets with clubs nailing us on price.
If a deal is pretty much agreed, we could chase targets this week with sensible negotiations, then complete the souttar deal.
That's how I think it will pan out anyway
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Post by bloodtypered on Jan 22, 2023 16:38:05 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 22, 2023 16:47:19 GMT
He's a far better keeper than Bonham. Would be a sensible signing Is he? Yes?
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 22, 2023 16:52:40 GMT
What will he bring to the team? I’ve heard of him but I don’t know a great deal other than he’s a Philippine international and he’s currently being kept out of Birminghams first team by John Ruddy?
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