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Post by matelot1996 on Nov 12, 2022 21:40:59 GMT
No doubt it will be something uninspiring and depressing that won’t improve our Football.
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Post by march4 on Nov 12, 2022 21:44:07 GMT
Coaching staff can certainly be shaken up but looking at our ridiculous injury record and lack of stamina, it is the fitness and medical teams who need replacing.
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Post by neddy on Nov 12, 2022 21:46:45 GMT
I tell you what I’d prefer some on the field changes! I’m sick of it!
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Post by Gods on Nov 12, 2022 21:49:54 GMT
The new bloke Canning (?) doesn't seem to have had much of an effect so far that's for sure...... He's had a 'mare so far. Can only get better I suppose. |
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 12, 2022 22:00:18 GMT
Rory's been in position through the entirety of this Championship era. If we're looking for common denominators he'd be listed for sure, we got rid of another in the summer.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 12, 2022 22:36:16 GMT
We might consider Republic of Ireland... That’s Rory. I'm on about managers. Rory will never be manager and he was born and raised in the UK anyway. I was being sarcastic anyway. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 12, 2022 22:44:13 GMT
Rory's been in position through the entirety of this Championship era. If we're looking for common denominators he'd be listed for sure, we got rid of another in the summer. It's difficult to judge coaches because they do a very technical behind the scenes job that you can't really judge without being close to the team and seeing what goes on at the training ground day in, day out. However, our record since Rory has been here has been dreadful and while it's unfair to categorically say he's doing a poor job without inside knowledge, I think it's fair to say that it's unlikely that he's doing a good job based on the consistently poor performance levels over that period. |
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 12, 2022 22:57:29 GMT
Who were some of the coaches he's worked with and had success at other clubs?.
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 12, 2022 23:17:25 GMT
Rory's been in position through the entirety of this Championship era. If we're looking for common denominators he'd be listed for sure, we got rid of another in the summer. It's difficult to judge coaches because they do a very technical behind the scenes job that you can't really judge without being close to the team and seeing what goes on at the training ground day in, day out. However, our record since Rory has been here has been dreadful and while it's unfair to categorically say he's doing a poor job without inside knowledge, I think it's fair to say that it's unlikely that he's doing a good job based on the consistently poor performance levels over that period. Not according to that video of training posted a few months ago. It was embarrassing 😳 |
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Post by onionman on Nov 12, 2022 23:24:34 GMT
Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or in Stoke City terms, applying a fresh lick of paint to the uninsured Butler Street Stand roof ahead of an approaching storm.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 12, 2022 23:55:13 GMT
I thought I'd read that Neil doesn't really have an entourage and is a bit of a one man band?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 13, 2022 2:49:10 GMT
The new bloke Canning (?) doesn't seem to have had much of an effect so far that's for sure...... Canning going nowhere |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 6:25:29 GMT
Rory moving on wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. He's a set piece coach by definition here and let's be honest, they are absolute shite and have been for years.
It's about time the club stopped filling their positions with the 'class of 08' players, including the Academy.
Spread their wings and make sure they are the best that money can buy and not just a favour because they got us up for the first time in 20 odd years.
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Post by knype on Nov 13, 2022 7:41:36 GMT
I don't care if backroom staff and coaches are old players, if it's not working which it obviously isn't then change it. Maybe it's too friendly and soft ?
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Post by malisastokie on Nov 13, 2022 8:04:37 GMT
Todays game showed once again any team prepared to play at a high tempo with or with the ball makes us look second rate.
Better coaching and fitness levels may improve the tempo we play without the ball but with the ball I don’t think they are technically good enough to make any improvement by better coaching.
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Post by andystokey on Nov 13, 2022 8:14:12 GMT
I thought I'd read that Neil doesn't really have an entourage and is a bit of a one man band? I think that's true. With such a big group though it's hard to get ideas across. I suspect he thought the existing coaches would latch on quickly but I've watched them a few times and he dominates sessions. Some are just carrying balls, cones and bibs. It's clear to me that he can't get to individuals who just "don't get it" and also prepare for a match in a 3 day week. It's pretty obvious to me on match days when he changes formation mid game we are carrying some players. Some of our squad just don't seem that bright I'm sorry to say. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 13, 2022 13:53:23 GMT
Hopefully it's coaching staff, I find it strange that we've kept hold of some of for so long, also we better be getting someone that knows what they're doing with throw ins, it's getting embarrassing. As Denis Smith said yesterday you do a bit of coaching of throw ins but it isn't difficult for players to know what they should be doing. It's not as if we do a long throw routine. For me it looks over coached - a certain player has to take the throw even if he's not closest, it has to be down the line to be headed on or back to a defender who usually passes to the gk. When Allen was here it was always to him to knock back to the thrower. Sometimes I'm just thinking nearest player pick it up and if you can see a player to throw to throw it to him quickly. It's almost as if players are too frightened to do anything they've not been told to do. |
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Post by pretzel on Nov 13, 2022 15:53:35 GMT
Rory moving on wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. He's a set piece coach by definition here and let's be honest, they are absolute shite and have been for years. It's about time the club stopped filling their positions with the 'class of 08' players, including the Academy. Spread their wings and make sure they are the best that money can buy and not just a favour because they got us up for the first time in 20 odd years. Admittedly, I've not watched a lot of other clubs training sessions as a comparison but this doesn't fill me with much confidence  Heaven forbid we would bollock anyone for not hitting the back of the net against a pedestrian defence. There just doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency at this club either on the training ground or on the pitch. I'd like to think this doesn't represent a 'real' coaching session with no camera present... or does it?  |
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Post by loosestools on Nov 13, 2022 16:02:17 GMT
Rory moving on wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. He's a set piece coach by definition here and let's be honest, they are absolute shite and have been for years. It's about time the club stopped filling their positions with the 'class of 08' players, including the Academy. Spread their wings and make sure they are the best that money can buy and not just a favour because they got us up for the first time in 20 odd years. Admittedly, I've not watched a lot of other clubs training sessions as a comparison but this doesn't fill me with much confidence Heaven forbid we would bollock anyone for not hitting the back of the net against a pedestrian defence. There just doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency at this club either on the training ground or on the pitch. I'd like to think this doesn't represent a 'real' coaching session with no camera present... or does it? 3 and in em. Take your pullovers off we need some goalposts. |
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Post by skip on Nov 13, 2022 16:07:31 GMT
Rory's been in position through the entirety of this Championship era. If we're looking for common denominators he'd be listed for sure, we got rid of another in the summer. That video from late Summer of him coaching a corner defending session still gives me the fear. |
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Post by wilcopotter on Nov 13, 2022 16:09:13 GMT
Mentioned at the end of the club interview too. Does sound like they'll be coaching appointments. So maybe it will be Rory departing to make space? Not with how Rory coaches corners, surely? Too true and the way John has the defence sorted👍 |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 13, 2022 16:21:02 GMT
Probably ben an announcement on Steve Speed joining us as assistant groundsman from the vale!
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Post by onepara on Nov 13, 2022 16:28:11 GMT
Rory, "Work your rolls out, what you're comfortable with". In other words, do what you like. Very professional.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 13, 2022 17:14:39 GMT
Hopefully it's coaching staff, I find it strange that we've kept hold of some of for so long, also we better be getting someone that knows what they're doing with throw ins, it's getting embarrassing. As Denis Smith said yesterday you do a bit of coaching of throw ins but it isn't difficult for players to know what they should be doing. It's not as if we do a long throw routine. For me it looks over coached - a certain player has to take the throw even if he's not closest, it has to be down the line to be headed on or back to a defender who usually passes to the gk. When Allen was here it was always to him to knock back to the thrower. Sometimes I'm just thinking nearest player pick it up and if you can see a player to throw to throw it to him quickly. It's almost as if players are too frightened to do anything they've not been told to do. Some of our players never ever move for throw ins, which implies that they are waiting for the person who is meant to move, unless they completely don't plan for it. I cant believe it can be a plan for us to throw the ball back 18 yards out from their goal all the way back to our goalie, which we often do, who would coach that? We habitually waste good possession. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 18, 2022 14:30:11 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Nov 18, 2022 14:56:26 GMT
Diversity officer - more foreign managers to be considered…… Come on dude? We've had successive Welsh, Irish and Scottish managers now... just how diverse do you want us to be? We could try a middle class English manager. I believe their in quite a small minority now!! or is that just stretching diversity to far |
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Post by callas12 on Nov 18, 2022 15:13:20 GMT
Was hoping Neil Cutler was the man.. Ah well |
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