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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 24, 2022 17:13:11 GMT
Isn’t the biggest issue around denouncing all terrorism rather than saying left’s worse than right or visa versa. Isn’t it about the loss of innocent lives rather than justifying the cause, trying to say “it’s OK because.” or point scoring. We’re all guilty of taking a stance on politics or law but there’s a big difference between having a view and someone blowing up or killing an innocent person because of that view. Terrorism is extremism in its worst form and is generally about an individual or in some cases a group of vulnerable people influenced and led by an individual. I’m as guilty as anyone on here re trying to push my views but crikey there’s a huge different between being opinionated and acting out violence to prove a point in the worst way possible. a few posters pretending to be knowledgeable on a subject which they know absolutely fuck all about. makes me laugh and sad at the same time. Are we back onto Brexit again? 🤭 |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 24, 2022 17:40:37 GMT
You just keep on proving my point. Thank you.  |
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 24, 2022 18:53:09 GMT
Apologies to anyone who's here for reasonable and respectful debate. I'm just illustrating how irritating it is when a sanctimonious bellend spams up the board. You're only noticeable for being annoying. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 24, 2022 18:55:44 GMT
Apologies to anyone who's here for reasonable and respectful debate. I'm just illustrating how irritating it is when a sanctimonious bellend spams up the board. You're only noticeable for being annoying. Thanks for that, I'd hate the term sanctimonious bellend to be attributed to me as well as being annoying. |
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 24, 2022 18:57:32 GMT
You're only noticeable for being annoying. Thanks for that, I'd hate the term sanctimonious bellend to be attributed to me as well as being annoying. It's a hard slog out here brother. God bless ya |
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Post by knype on Dec 24, 2022 20:12:04 GMT
"Far left" doing an awful lot of heavy lifting on the EE board as usual.........  Another post for Knype’s crying thread too. And another deflection away from talking about a very serious issue. I wonder why? Poor little Bayern |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2022 20:21:19 GMT
Another post for Knype’s crying thread too. And another deflection away from talking about a very serious issue. I wonder why? Poor little Bayern Off you pop to the little thread sugar. |
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Post by knype on Dec 24, 2022 20:22:48 GMT
Off you pop to the little thread sugar. Poor little Bayern |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 24, 2022 20:23:50 GMT
Off you pop to the little thread sugar.  |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 24, 2022 21:43:22 GMT
Nearly as bizarre as those who vehemently defend Islam in the UK, yet were the loudest in shouting neo-colonial racist abuse at Qatar throughout the World Cup - criticising and condemning their culture and Islamic law at every opportunity. It's a funny old world isn't it? I don't think the lack of comments around what happened in Paris are anything to do with the color or faith of the attacker, more a result of the lack of media coverage comparative to say the much larger Paris attacks we've seen in recent years. Its not even on the BBC UK news front page and frankly until you mentioned it, I had no idea who the attacker was and how many had been killed. You’ve kind of just summed up systematic and societal racism nicely there tbh. It hasn’t been as widely spoken about……I wonder why. I try to use a variety of news outlets to get a fairer balance and it hasn’t been big news even on The Guardian’s website. |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 24, 2022 21:58:46 GMT
Terrorist scum do not have a wing
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Post by henry on Dec 24, 2022 22:05:08 GMT
I can't tell if this thread is actually about right wing terrorism or just a poor attempt by far-lefties to express their self perceived moral superiority. Point scoring from the people that care. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2022 10:43:39 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Dec 26, 2022 11:05:31 GMT
Get off, I thought it was the Roux Brothers |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2022 11:08:38 GMT
Get off, I thought it was the Roux Brothers Ah yes right wing racists are hilarious 🤦♂️ |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 29, 2022 17:18:35 GMT
Interesting report on the front of today's Telegraph, claiming that a soon to be published report will say that the Prevent anti-terrorism programme has spent too much time focussing on extreme right-wing terrorism, at the expense of the Islamist threat. Worth reviewing the data again, then: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdfMost arrests for terrorism related activity are of white Britons (46%), with Asian appearance at 26%, the figure for whites has gone up consistently over the last six years or so while that for Asian appearance has gone down at a similar rate. Another conclusion, therefore, could be that Prevent has been doing a good job of not only reducing the terrorist threat from Islamic fundamentalists (on the assumption that these are the "of Asian appearance" characteristic) but has also correctly identified the growing threat from right-wing terrorism. Not that reading the Telegraph front page would lead you to think that of course. Nor that the overall risk from terrorism has rarely been lower. But we all need our bogeymen, I guess. |
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Post by felonious on Dec 29, 2022 17:41:02 GMT
Interesting report on the front of today's Telegraph, claiming that a soon to be published report will say that the Prevent anti-terrorism programme has spent too much time focussing on extreme right-wing terrorism, at the expense of the Islamist threat. Worth reviewing the data again, then: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdfMost arrests for terrorism related activity are of white Britons (46%), with Asian appearance at 26%, the figure for whites has gone up consistently over the last six years or so while that for Asian appearance has gone down at a similar rate. Another conclusion, therefore, could be that Prevent has been doing a good job of not only reducing the terrorist threat from Islamic fundamentalists (on the assumption that these are the "of Asian appearance" characteristic) but has also correctly identified the growing threat from right-wing terrorism. Not that reading the Telegraph front page would lead you to think that of course. Nor that the overall risk from terrorism has rarely been lower. But we all need our bogeymen, I guess. Can't open that link RWB  Are you saying statistically those of "Asian appearance" are far more likely to be terrorists since presumably they represent a small minority of the population? Perhaps Prevent is indeed working if that proportion has been going down for the last six years. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 29, 2022 17:46:06 GMT
Interesting report on the front of today's Telegraph, claiming that a soon to be published report will say that the Prevent anti-terrorism programme has spent too much time focussing on extreme right-wing terrorism, at the expense of the Islamist threat. Worth reviewing the data again, then: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdfMost arrests for terrorism related activity are of white Britons (46%), with Asian appearance at 26%, the figure for whites has gone up consistently over the last six years or so while that for Asian appearance has gone down at a similar rate. Another conclusion, therefore, could be that Prevent has been doing a good job of not only reducing the terrorist threat from Islamic fundamentalists (on the assumption that these are the "of Asian appearance" characteristic) but has also correctly identified the growing threat from right-wing terrorism. Not that reading the Telegraph front page would lead you to think that of course. Nor that the overall risk from terrorism has rarely been lower. But we all need our bogeymen, I guess. Can't open that link RWB Are you saying statistically those of "Asian appearance" are far more likely to be terrorists since presumably they represent a small minority of the population? Perhaps Prevent is indeed working if that proportion has been going down for the last six years. 9.6% according to the latest census |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 29, 2022 17:54:42 GMT
Get off, I thought it was the Roux Brothers Ah yes right wing racists are hilarious 🤦♂️ I don't think so. I'm sure this specimen isn't representative of the wider white French community though. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 29, 2022 17:58:31 GMT
Interesting report on the front of today's Telegraph, claiming that a soon to be published report will say that the Prevent anti-terrorism programme has spent too much time focussing on extreme right-wing terrorism, at the expense of the Islamist threat. Worth reviewing the data again, then: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdfMost arrests for terrorism related activity are of white Britons (46%), with Asian appearance at 26%, the figure for whites has gone up consistently over the last six years or so while that for Asian appearance has gone down at a similar rate. Another conclusion, therefore, could be that Prevent has been doing a good job of not only reducing the terrorist threat from Islamic fundamentalists (on the assumption that these are the "of Asian appearance" characteristic) but has also correctly identified the growing threat from right-wing terrorism. Not that reading the Telegraph front page would lead you to think that of course. Nor that the overall risk from terrorism has rarely been lower. But we all need our bogeymen, I guess. Can't open that link RWB Are you saying statistically those of "Asian appearance" are far more likely to be terrorists since presumably they represent a small minority of the population? Perhaps Prevent is indeed working if that proportion has been going down for the last six years. My bad... commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7613/ |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 29, 2022 18:23:56 GMT
Interesting report on the front of today's Telegraph, claiming that a soon to be published report will say that the Prevent anti-terrorism programme has spent too much time focussing on extreme right-wing terrorism, at the expense of the Islamist threat. Worth reviewing the data again, then: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdfMost arrests for terrorism related activity are of white Britons (46%), with Asian appearance at 26%, the figure for whites has gone up consistently over the last six years or so while that for Asian appearance has gone down at a similar rate. Another conclusion, therefore, could be that Prevent has been doing a good job of not only reducing the terrorist threat from Islamic fundamentalists (on the assumption that these are the "of Asian appearance" characteristic) but has also correctly identified the growing threat from right-wing terrorism. Not that reading the Telegraph front page would lead you to think that of course. Nor that the overall risk from terrorism has rarely been lower. But we all need our bogeymen, I guess. Presumably 'white Britons' include those in N Ireland (Loyalist and Republican) and those Caucasians who joined Islamist groups? |
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Post by Gawa on Jan 3, 2023 13:55:02 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63736944A devastating story and highlights the dangers of online grooming. More needs to be done to tackle these creeps grooming kids online to become terrorists. And a lot more support needs to be given to the kids impacted by it too.
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Post by Gawa on Jan 3, 2023 13:58:17 GMT
Interesting report on the front of today's Telegraph, claiming that a soon to be published report will say that the Prevent anti-terrorism programme has spent too much time focussing on extreme right-wing terrorism, at the expense of the Islamist threat. Worth reviewing the data again, then: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7613/CBP-7613.pdfMost arrests for terrorism related activity are of white Britons (46%), with Asian appearance at 26%, the figure for whites has gone up consistently over the last six years or so while that for Asian appearance has gone down at a similar rate. Another conclusion, therefore, could be that Prevent has been doing a good job of not only reducing the terrorist threat from Islamic fundamentalists (on the assumption that these are the "of Asian appearance" characteristic) but has also correctly identified the growing threat from right-wing terrorism. Not that reading the Telegraph front page would lead you to think that of course. Nor that the overall risk from terrorism has rarely been lower. But we all need our bogeymen, I guess. Presumably 'white Britons' include those in N Ireland (Loyalist and Republican) and those Caucasians who joined Islamist groups? I'm our census we can usually put down if we identify as British, Irish or other. Haven't looked at the report referenced. But some northern Irish could come under white Irish possibly. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 3, 2023 16:31:37 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2023 0:25:16 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 14, 2023 12:47:41 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 14, 2023 14:10:04 GMT
I was expecting something along these lines. There was little chance of Bolsanaro quietly exiting the scene, in much the same way that Trump didn't. Weird how much support these people get from supposed champions of freedom and democracy... I'm actually quite surprised it didn't succeed, given the apparent involvement of senior figures in various positions of influence. I do think the likes of Trump and Bolsanaro look on enviously towards Putin and wish they could similarly assume totalitarian control of their respective countries, for all their professed love of democracy. |
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Post by metalhead on Jan 14, 2023 16:06:41 GMT
I was expecting something along these lines. There was little chance of Bolsanaro quietly exiting the scene, in much the same way that Trump didn't. Weird how much support these people get from supposed champions of freedom and democracy... I'm actually quite surprised it didn't succeed, given the apparent involvement of senior figures in various positions of influence. I do think the likes of Trump and Bolsanaro look on enviously towards Putin and wish they could similarly assume totalitarian control of their respective countries, for all their professed love of democracy. I actually think we're at risk of heading back in that direction, but I don't think it's specifically a right wing issue. It's pretty obvious that some of the more unhinged voice boxes in the media would quite happily see their political opponents wiped out. Democracy is at stake. The next 100 years will potentially define societal structures for the remainder of the earth's existence. |
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Post by wannabee on Jan 14, 2023 18:01:26 GMT
I was expecting something along these lines. There was little chance of Bolsanaro quietly exiting the scene, in much the same way that Trump didn't. Weird how much support these people get from supposed champions of freedom and democracy... I'm actually quite surprised it didn't succeed, given the apparent involvement of senior figures in various positions of influence. I do think the likes of Trump and Bolsanaro look on enviously towards Putin and wish they could similarly assume totalitarian control of their respective countries, for all their professed love of democracy. To be fair Coups and Impeachments are kind of a way of life in Brazil Sometimes aided by US and UK like the overthrow of Goulart in 1964 followed by 21 years of Military Rule and since then a very mixed bag of left wing and right wing Presidents Most have been Impeached/Gaoled for corruption I love the place and have been travelling there for 40+ years for Business and Pleasure but its always in a Perma-crisis with skyrocketing inflation This never seems to interfere with having a party. |
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Post by Gawa on Feb 11, 2023 11:08:23 GMT
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