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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 28, 2023 14:28:39 GMT
So who would you class as far left? I guess it’s what your levels are but I wouldn’t class Farage as a fascist or far right. Right yes but not far right. I'd go something like: Far Right: Tommy Robinson Right: Nigel Farage Centre Right: Jeremy Hunt Centre Left: Andy Burnham Left: Jeremy Corbyn Extreme Far Left: George Galloway Huddysleftfoot You can probably slot most people in there somewhere. From reading posts on here there seem to be some people who are definitely somewhere near the far right but I can't think of anybody who I would pin down as far left. I'd also say the centre ground on this board is well towards the right so anyone who is even centre left is getting badged as far left which is nonsense. Left and right is actually too one dimensional to capture the complexity of modern day political opinion. Classic left/right distinctions were based on economic policy particularly the degree of support for state ownership v the free market. What has come to be just as important these days is social attitudes with various degrees ranging from socially conservative to socially progressive. The assumption people make (wrongly in my opinion) is that being socially conservative means right wing (in traditional terms) and socially progressive mean left wing. This isn't necessarily the case. For example Boris Johnson was right wing in terms of economics but outside mouthing off for effect he is socially progressive. Reform UK is a socially conservative party but it's economic policy is further left than Labour. Labours economic position under Starmer is effectively centre right but Starmer is even more socially progressive than Johnson but is doing the same as Johnson in portraying himself as socially conservative in order to con the socially conservative working class to vote for him. Politics is better thought of in terms of an X axis (economic policy - traditional right/left) and Y axis (social attitudes - up progressive, down conservative) and people can be better pinned down in terms of the quadrant they are in. So for example I'd probably be in the top left quadrant X = -0.1 Y = +0.8 where X = -1 is extreme left and Y = + 1 is extreme progressive. Given the findings of the COVID enquiry obviously this would be beyond the current government because they can't do graphs. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 28, 2023 14:30:10 GMT
Michael Foot, Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn for me. Andy Burnham centre left for me - I'd vote Labour without hesitation if he were leader but have issues with both Starmer and Corbyn. And don't even get me started on the war criminal Tony Blair.... I'm dyed in the wool Tory, and was thinking the same just the other day, I'd probably not vote for him, but I wouldn't be mega fearful of a Burnham Government like I was a Corbyn one. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 28, 2023 14:33:20 GMT
I’m somewhere between George Galloway and Tommy Robinson I reckon, depends what day it is I'm just to the Right of Atilla The Hun, and I think Genghis Khan was a bit of a woketard fanny |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 28, 2023 15:03:42 GMT
All I know is that there's clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 28, 2023 20:47:01 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Dec 8, 2023 12:52:47 GMT
You won't find this on the British news. I'm sure if it was a school of another religion it would be headline breaking news though to push an agenda and propoganda.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2023 13:51:01 GMT
You won't find this on the British news. I'm sure if it was a school of another religion it would be headline breaking news though to push an agenda and propoganda. Hopefully they catch the bastard. Those B’s and O’s look fairly distinctive for a start, so if they do have a pool, a handwriting analyst should have a fun time with them. People like this don’t deserve the air that they breathe. They are evil. |
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 8, 2023 14:36:29 GMT
As a weak anarchist I despise the left and the right.  Pogo on a nazi, spit upon a jew Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new Left wing violence, right wing violence, all seems much the same Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT Left wing macho street fighters willing to kick arse They said because of racism they'd come out on the street It was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite Bigotry and blindness, a marxist con Another clever trick to keep us all in line Neat little labels to keep us all apart To keep us all divided when the troubles start All their RAR badges and their protest walk Thousands of white men standing in a park Objecting to racism's like a candle in the dark Black man's got his problems and his way to deal with it So don't fool yourself you're helping with your white liberal shit If you care to take a closer look at the way things really stand You'd see we're all just ni**ers to the rulers of this land |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 8, 2023 17:23:10 GMT
You won't find this on the British news. I'm sure if it was a school of another religion it would be headline breaking news though to push an agenda and propoganda. This letter looks, on the face of it, the closest the author has ever been to a school. |
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Post by plug on Dec 8, 2023 18:49:20 GMT
I hope he didn't send it by Royal Mail.
It will do well to get there by the 8th, if at all.
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Post by metalhead on Dec 8, 2023 21:34:03 GMT
You won't find this on the British news. I'm sure if it was a school of another religion it would be headline breaking news though to push an agenda and propoganda. That's fucking unbelievable. That can't actually be real, surely? |
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Post by metalhead on Dec 8, 2023 21:34:59 GMT
I hope he didn't send it by Royal Mail. It will do well to get there by the 8th, if at all. Shit joke. Too soon. Bad timing... But I did chuckle. |
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Post by Gawa on Feb 27, 2024 10:22:32 GMT
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Post by musik on Feb 27, 2024 11:02:33 GMT
Isn't it a bit outdated these days to speak of left and right?
Isn't the up or down scale more in use?
In Sweden we sometimes use the box, the Gal-Tan scale.
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Post by Gawa on Feb 27, 2024 16:39:19 GMT
More news on this. Headline has since updated on BBC to: "Three men charged with planning attack on Islamic education centre" Yet nobody is talking about it or batting an eye lid. God forbid if it was an education centre for a different religion. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2024 20:06:39 GMT
What a wanker.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 2, 2024 20:09:18 GMT
Agreed Bayern he is a wanker but right wing terrorism? Surely it's in the wrong thread isn't it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2024 20:17:59 GMT
Agreed Bayern he is a wanker but right wing terrorism? Surely it's in the wrong thread isn't it. Attacking mosques seems like terrorism to me. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 2, 2024 20:21:44 GMT
Agreed Bayern he is a wanker but right wing terrorism? Surely it's in the wrong thread isn't it. Attacking mosques seems like terrorism to me. He's a prick Bayern and I don't think anyone would disagree but where has he attacked a mosque or been involved in terrorism in that video? He should be locked up for the swastika tattoo in my opinion but again that's not terrorism is it mate. |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2024 20:22:26 GMT
Ironic that he can’t speak English. |
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Post by mrnovember on Aug 2, 2024 20:24:23 GMT
Agreed Bayern he is a wanker but right wing terrorism? Surely it's in the wrong thread isn't it. Attacking mosques seems like terrorism to me. Stabbing three little girls to death was deemed to be not terror related. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 2, 2024 20:25:10 GMT
Ironic that he can’t speak English. He’s 100% from Stoke, I imagine someone on here will know who he is…… |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2024 20:26:25 GMT
The guy is utter pond life but the problem is you lot can’t see past the end of your own noses. Why are you not asking why these things are happening rather than just throwing buzzwords around? Are you not interested in making the country a better place to live? I’ve asked this question multiple times without a reasonable response and I expect the same on this one |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2024 20:29:50 GMT
The guy is utter pond life but the problem is you lot can’t see past the end of your own noses. Why are you not asking why these things are happening rather than just throwing buzzwords around? Are you not interested in making the country a better place to live? I’ve asked this question multiple times without a reasonable response and I expect the same on this one Wanker is a buzzword is it? It’s happening because poor people have been neglected in this country for nearly 50 years. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2024 20:30:07 GMT
The guy is utter pond life but the problem is you lot can’t see past the end of your own noses. Why are you not asking why these things are happening rather than just throwing buzzwords around? Are you not interested in making the country a better place to live? I’ve asked this question multiple times without a reasonable response and I expect the same on this one He’s literally wearing a swastika. I couldn’t give a shit why these cunts do anything. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2024 20:31:47 GMT
The guy is utter pond life but the problem is you lot can’t see past the end of your own noses. Why are you not asking why these things are happening rather than just throwing buzzwords around? Are you not interested in making the country a better place to live? I’ve asked this question multiple times without a reasonable response and I expect the same on this one He’s literally wearing a swastika. I couldn’t give a shit why these cunts do anything. I rest my case. Totally incredulous |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 2, 2024 20:32:37 GMT
He’s literally wearing a swastika. I couldn’t give a shit why these cunts do anything. I rest my case. Totally incredulous I’ve given you an answer so stop bleating. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2024 20:32:49 GMT
He’s literally wearing a swastika. I couldn’t give a shit why these cunts do anything. I rest my case. Totally incredulous Since when did we care what Nazis think? Fucking hell fire. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2024 20:33:17 GMT
The guy is utter pond life but the problem is you lot can’t see past the end of your own noses. Why are you not asking why these things are happening rather than just throwing buzzwords around? Are you not interested in making the country a better place to live? I’ve asked this question multiple times without a reasonable response and I expect the same on this one Wanker is a buzzword is it? It’s happening because poor people have been neglected in this country for nearly 50 years. I’m talking about “racist”, “far right” etc but you know that. And I agree it’s part of it |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2024 20:34:04 GMT
I rest my case. Totally incredulous I’ve given you an answer so stop bleating. Calm down dear you didn’t give me a chance to respond |
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