|
|
Post by knype on Feb 11, 2023 19:43:13 GMT
Never known anyone who lives there Maybe the void is right to think of them as scum then?.. I dont think for other people. |
|
|
|
Post by yeswilko on Feb 11, 2023 20:09:27 GMT
Maybe the void is right to think of them as scum then?.. I dont think for other people. Or yourself tbf. |
|
|
|
Post by knype on Feb 11, 2023 20:30:50 GMT
I dont think for other people. Or yourself tbf. You're boring me now. Toddle off |
|
|
|
Post by yeswilko on Feb 11, 2023 20:32:53 GMT
You're boring me now. Toddle off Maybe go have a cuddle with badger in a safe space babe. |
|
|
|
Post by knype on Feb 11, 2023 20:41:43 GMT
You're boring me now. Toddle off Maybe go have a cuddle with badger in a safe space babe. Roll over and give Huddy a big kiss maybe ? |
|
|
|
Post by yeswilko on Feb 11, 2023 20:47:05 GMT
Maybe go have a cuddle with badger in a safe space babe. Roll over and give Huddy a big kiss maybe ? Oh god yeah |
|
|
|
Post by Gawa on Feb 11, 2023 20:49:27 GMT
Any cuddles for me?
|
|
|
|
Post by yeswilko on Feb 11, 2023 20:53:13 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by knype on Feb 11, 2023 21:01:45 GMT
It'll be like Wokeback Mountain |
|
|
|
Post by Gawa on Feb 11, 2023 21:13:05 GMT
It'll be like Wokeback Mountain Hopefully the mountains frozen so there's lots of snowflakes too. |
|
|
|
Post by OldStokie on Feb 11, 2023 22:45:52 GMT
It'll be like Wokeback Mountain I'm not getting involved with you kids and your arguments but that comeback made me chuckle. (Take an OS star.)  OS. |
|
|
|
Post by wannabee on Feb 12, 2023 1:13:48 GMT
Let's be perfectly honest about what happening here There are many people in Britain who are Nativists who belive that natural born Brits should be favoured over others irrespective of how they arrived or contribution but particularly people they would consider "illegal immigrants" It is a somewhat quaint but legitimate position to take but also simplistic and completely at odds with most Nativists parallel objectives which were to Brexit and have a Global Britain For the most part they are benign but when it becomes more sinister is when Right Wing Racist who have an entirely different agenda insidiously infiltrate chat rooms with Nativists tendencies and pour petrol on the fire by spreading malicious false rumours of imagined events that never actually happened A favoured standard tactic by these Racists is to falsely spead a rumour that a White women has been sexualy attacked by an "illegal Immigrant " as was the case in Knowsley It was also the exact same false rumour Knype reported on in relation to an incident that occurred in Ireland which was provoked by external Right Wing Racists and happily exploited by a few like minded natives m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irelands-far-right-problem-messages-reveal-the-hate-stirred-up-behind-the-scenes-42328135.html |
|
|
|
Post by knype on Feb 12, 2023 7:12:31 GMT
Let's be perfectly honest about what happening here There are many people in Britain who are Nativists who belive that natural born Brits should be favoured over others irrespective of how they arrived or contribution but particularly people they would consider "illegal immigrants" It is a somewhat quaint but legitimate position to take but also simplistic and completely at odds with most Nativists parallel objectives which were to Brexit and have a Global Britain For the most part they are benign but when it becomes more sinister is when Right Wing Racist who have an entirely different agenda insidiously infiltrate chat rooms with Nativists tendencies and pour petrol on the fire by spreading malicious false rumours of imagined events that never actually happened A favoured standard tactic by these Racists is to falsely spead a rumour that a White women has been sexualy attacked by an "illegal Immigrant " as was the case in Knowsley It was also the exact same false rumour Knype reported on in relation to an incident that occurred in Ireland which was provoked by external Right Wing Racists and happily exploited by a few like minded natives m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irelands-far-right-problem-messages-reveal-the-hate-stirred-up-behind-the-scenes-42328135.htmlWhat false rumours did I spread ? Another shite post by Wannabe |
|
|
|
Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Feb 12, 2023 8:17:33 GMT
Let's be perfectly honest about what happening here There are many people in Britain who are Nativists who belive that natural born Brits should be favoured over others irrespective of how they arrived or contribution but particularly people they would consider "illegal immigrants" It is a somewhat quaint but legitimate position to take but also simplistic and completely at odds with most Nativists parallel objectives which were to Brexit and have a Global Britain For the most part they are benign but when it becomes more sinister is when Right Wing Racist who have an entirely different agenda insidiously infiltrate chat rooms with Nativists tendencies and pour petrol on the fire by spreading malicious false rumours of imagined events that never actually happened A favoured standard tactic by these Racists is to falsely spead a rumour that a White women has been sexualy attacked by an "illegal Immigrant " as was the case in Knowsley It was also the exact same false rumour Knype reported on in relation to an incident that occurred in Ireland which was provoked by external Right Wing Racists and happily exploited by a few like minded natives m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irelands-far-right-problem-messages-reveal-the-hate-stirred-up-behind-the-scenes-42328135.htmlI believe twitter has a lot to answer for as it appears to be the site that fans the flames more than any other and initiates most of the stories. The problem with it is 1- A lot of it’s subscribers believe what is said on there as gospel (depending on all ready established views). 2- It’s an echo chamber for extremists from opposite ends of the spectrum or people with a grudge to push an agenda rather than the truth. This results in a whole load of hate. It’s like the Oatcake multiplied x 1000. A lot of people that read it feel that it gives them the right to act as judge, jury and executioner. This is where it’s so nuts in relation to facts / Runours as I’d read the reasons for the riots werent an attack on a woman but a young girl being propositioned by a resident of the hotel. I guess no one really knows which can be a dangerous game when being too judgemental. In relation to the rioting in Liverpool. As I said earlier regardless of one’s belief or what they think they’re fighting for I’m not sure what setting fire to police vehicles (one with a dog in) achieves. For the majority that get involved it’s just them thinking it gives them a legitimate excuse to act like idiots (as was the case in Bristol too). |
|
|
|
Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 12, 2023 8:22:05 GMT
You're boring me now. Toddle off Maybe go have a cuddle with badger in a safe space babe. SAD. AS. FUCK. |
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2023 11:02:15 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2023 11:18:26 GMT
Let's be perfectly honest about what happening here There are many people in Britain who are Nativists who belive that natural born Brits should be favoured over others irrespective of how they arrived or contribution but particularly people they would consider "illegal immigrants" It is a somewhat quaint but legitimate position to take but also simplistic and completely at odds with most Nativists parallel objectives which were to Brexit and have a Global Britain For the most part they are benign but when it becomes more sinister is when Right Wing Racist who have an entirely different agenda insidiously infiltrate chat rooms with Nativists tendencies and pour petrol on the fire by spreading malicious false rumours of imagined events that never actually happened A favoured standard tactic by these Racists is to falsely spead a rumour that a White women has been sexualy attacked by an "illegal Immigrant " as was the case in Knowsley It was also the exact same false rumour Knype reported on in relation to an incident that occurred in Ireland which was provoked by external Right Wing Racists and happily exploited by a few like minded natives m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irelands-far-right-problem-messages-reveal-the-hate-stirred-up-behind-the-scenes-42328135.htmlI believe twitter has a lot to answer for as it appears to be the site that fans the flames more than any other and initiates most of the stories. The problem with it is 1- A lot of it’s subscribers believe what is said on there as gospel (depending on all ready established views). 2- It’s an echo chamber for extremists from opposite ends of the spectrum or people with a grudge to push an agenda rather than the truth. This results in a whole load of hate. It’s like the Oatcake multiplied x 1000. A lot of people that read it feel that it gives them the right to act as judge, jury and executioner. This is where it’s so nuts in relation to facts / Runours as I’d read the reasons for the riots werent an attack on a woman but a young girl being propositioned by a resident of the hotel. I guess no one really knows which can be a dangerous game when being too judgemental. In relation to the rioting in Liverpool. As I said earlier regardless of one’s belief or what they think they’re fighting for I’m not sure what setting fire to police vehicles (one with a dog in) achieves. For the majority that get involved it’s just them thinking it gives them a legitimate excuse to act like idiots (as was the case in Bristol too). Like this you mean? It's almost always the MO of the far right. |
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2023 11:34:14 GMT
Maybe go have a cuddle with badger in a safe space babe. Roll over and give Huddy a big kiss maybe ? Get some help....now. |
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2023 11:50:18 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by knype on Feb 12, 2023 11:58:13 GMT
Roll over and give Huddy a big kiss maybe ? Get some help....now. You sad old man |
|
|
|
Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 12, 2023 13:43:23 GMT
Hmmm....wonder if clever Nick and his desire for a 'unified' country based on patriotism is familiar with the following: "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” I doubt it very much. |
|
|
|
Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Feb 12, 2023 14:28:05 GMT
I believe twitter has a lot to answer for as it appears to be the site that fans the flames more than any other and initiates most of the stories. The problem with it is 1- A lot of it’s subscribers believe what is said on there as gospel (depending on all ready established views). 2- It’s an echo chamber for extremists from opposite ends of the spectrum or people with a grudge to push an agenda rather than the truth. This results in a whole load of hate. It’s like the Oatcake multiplied x 1000. A lot of people that read it feel that it gives them the right to act as judge, jury and executioner. This is where it’s so nuts in relation to facts / Runours as I’d read the reasons for the riots werent an attack on a woman but a young girl being propositioned by a resident of the hotel. I guess no one really knows which can be a dangerous game when being too judgemental. In relation to the rioting in Liverpool. As I said earlier regardless of one’s belief or what they think they’re fighting for I’m not sure what setting fire to police vehicles (one with a dog in) achieves. For the majority that get involved it’s just them thinking it gives them a legitimate excuse to act like idiots (as was the case in Bristol too). Like this you mean? It's almost always the MO of the far right. and visa versa. One of the biggest problems is it’s very difficult to find twitterers who have a genuinely balanced view so it’s very hard to know what to believe. I’m sure that there have been some far right taking the view stated but I’m sure the poster has his own agenda too. I guess that’s the problem with people with extreme views they generally shout loudest. |
|
|
|
Post by knype on Feb 12, 2023 14:32:23 GMT
Like this you mean? It's almost always the MO of the far right. and visa versa. One of the biggest problems is it’s very difficult to find twitterers who have a genuinely balanced view so it’s very hard to know what to believe. I’m sure that there have been some far right taking the view stated but I’m sure the poster has his own agenda too. I guess that’s the problem with people with extreme views they generally shout loudest. You only have to look at who and which side constantly shares twitter links that they believe in... |
|
|
|
Post by swampmongrel on Feb 12, 2023 14:33:04 GMT
Let's be perfectly honest about what happening here There are many people in Britain who are Nativists who belive that natural born Brits should be favoured over others irrespective of how they arrived or contribution but particularly people they would consider "illegal immigrants" It is a somewhat quaint but legitimate position to take but also simplistic and completely at odds with most Nativists parallel objectives which were to Brexit and have a Global Britain For the most part they are benign but when it becomes more sinister is when Right Wing Racist who have an entirely different agenda insidiously infiltrate chat rooms with Nativists tendencies and pour petrol on the fire by spreading malicious false rumours of imagined events that never actually happened A favoured standard tactic by these Racists is to falsely spead a rumour that a White women has been sexualy attacked by an "illegal Immigrant " as was the case in Knowsley It was also the exact same false rumour Knype reported on in relation to an incident that occurred in Ireland which was provoked by external Right Wing Racists and happily exploited by a few like minded natives m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irelands-far-right-problem-messages-reveal-the-hate-stirred-up-behind-the-scenes-42328135.htmlIn part you’re correct that extremists use (make up or exaggerate) sexual attacks to stir up trouble. However, I don’t think we can say without malignant outside influence there wouldn’t be any trouble between large groups of young men and host communities. ‘Cologne’ was real. Trying to settle large groups of 18/19/20 something year old unaccompanied young men, under resourced and under occupied, in a different culture with different social expectations is asking for trouble. It would be the same if a bunch of young Stokies were dumped in the middle of Aleppo. We have to find a better way or this sort of stuff will only continue. Perhaps we should only admit asylum seeking young men if their Mums come with them to keep an eye on them. |
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2023 15:21:56 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by wannabee on Feb 12, 2023 15:25:29 GMT
Let's be perfectly honest about what happening here There are many people in Britain who are Nativists who belive that natural born Brits should be favoured over others irrespective of how they arrived or contribution but particularly people they would consider "illegal immigrants" It is a somewhat quaint but legitimate position to take but also simplistic and completely at odds with most Nativists parallel objectives which were to Brexit and have a Global Britain For the most part they are benign but when it becomes more sinister is when Right Wing Racist who have an entirely different agenda insidiously infiltrate chat rooms with Nativists tendencies and pour petrol on the fire by spreading malicious false rumours of imagined events that never actually happened A favoured standard tactic by these Racists is to falsely spead a rumour that a White women has been sexualy attacked by an "illegal Immigrant " as was the case in Knowsley It was also the exact same false rumour Knype reported on in relation to an incident that occurred in Ireland which was provoked by external Right Wing Racists and happily exploited by a few like minded natives m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/irelands-far-right-problem-messages-reveal-the-hate-stirred-up-behind-the-scenes-42328135.htmlIn part you’re correct that extremists use (make up or exaggerate) sexual attacks to stir up trouble. However, I don’t think we can say without malignant outside influence there wouldn’t be any trouble between large groups of young men and host communities. ‘Cologne’ was real. Trying to settle large groups of 18/19/20 something year old unaccompanied young men, under resourced and under occupied, in a different culture with different social expectations is asking for trouble. It would be the same if a bunch of young Stokies were dumped in the middle of Aleppo. We have to find a better way or this sort of stuff will only continue. Perhaps we should only admit asylum seeking young men if their Mums come with them to keep an eye on them. I mostly agree with you and I believe there are two different things in play simultaneously but with different objectives Firstly local Residents who have legitimate concerns when a large group of immigrants are planted within their community without proper consultation, resources, planning or provision of additional services in already overstretched areas. Curiously these settlements never seem to occur in leafy Suburbs Your right to identify single young men as the prime target of angst and rightly point out that its a recipe for disaster to have a very mixed group of young men in an alien environment with time on their hands. It's why the no work policy, productive of community based is ridiculous Secondly there are then the more sinister actors who would rarely be personally present at demonstrations but ferment them to promote their Racist Agenda |
|
|
|
Post by swampmongrel on Feb 12, 2023 15:52:20 GMT
In part you’re correct that extremists use (make up or exaggerate) sexual attacks to stir up trouble. However, I don’t think we can say without malignant outside influence there wouldn’t be any trouble between large groups of young men and host communities. ‘Cologne’ was real. Trying to settle large groups of 18/19/20 something year old unaccompanied young men, under resourced and under occupied, in a different culture with different social expectations is asking for trouble. It would be the same if a bunch of young Stokies were dumped in the middle of Aleppo. We have to find a better way or this sort of stuff will only continue. Perhaps we should only admit asylum seeking young men if their Mums come with them to keep an eye on them. I mostly agree with you and I believe there are two different things in play simultaneously but with different objectives Firstly local Residents who have legitimate concerns when a large group of immigrants are planted within their community without proper consultation, resources, planning or provision of additional services in already overstretched areas. Curiously these settlements never seem to occur in leafy Suburbs Your right to identify single young men as the prime target of angst and rightly point out that its a recipe for disaster to have a very mixed group of young men in an alien environment with time on their hands. It's why the no work policy, productive of community based is ridiculous Secondly there are then the more sinister actors who would rarely be personally present at demonstrations but ferment them to promote their Racist Agenda Agree about the work. In my view it needs to be community based doing work that otherwise wouldn’t get done without distorting local labour markets. I think primarily asylum applications need to be processed much quicker. Successful applicants be integrated much quicker and unsuccessful applicants deported. Don’t know how possible that is whilst also respecting due process. |
|
|
|
Post by swampmongrel on Feb 12, 2023 16:03:02 GMT
Hoe would people feel about asylum seekers with pending applications doing work in the community? I’m thinking things that don’t get done already like cleaning up the streets (England looks quite dirty whenever I visit).
It would necessarily be at lower than the minimum wage but optional. Would people think that was exploitation? Would people think that it would distort labour markets? Genuinely curious.
|
|
|
|
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 12, 2023 16:59:29 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2023 23:55:30 GMT
I remember Russell brand doing a documentary about 20 years ago looking into nazis and this guy was the main participant. Weird to see he’s still “going strong”. Russell’s tactic of killing with kindness clearly failed. |
|
