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Post by Davef on Aug 27, 2022 22:34:00 GMT
Dean Holden is a professional and will be well looked after by Stoke City, just like every other failed manager/coach has been. Henry Winter can go and f**k himself. He doesn't give two shits about what happens to Stoke or what the fans have to put up with week in week out. He probably hasn't watched a Stoke match since we were last at The Bridge. What a tosser.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 27, 2022 22:37:28 GMT
Dean Holden is a professional and will be well looked after by Stoke City, just like every other failed manager/coach has been. Henry Winter can go and f**k himself. He doesn't give two shits about what happens to Stoke or what the fans have to put up with week in week out. He probably hasn't watched a Stoke match since we were last at The Bridge. What a tosser. I have to say he's my least favourite journalist. Always found him up himself, smug, thinks he's better than everyone else. Always got that impression when he was on the Sunday supplement on sky.
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Post by gawa on Aug 27, 2022 22:48:23 GMT
Striking difference between the two announcements on Facebook. Michael's was very formal whereas Dean's came with thanks.
Wonder if it was a bit ugly behind the scenes.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 27, 2022 23:02:31 GMT
Striking difference between the two announcements on Facebook. Michael's was very formal whereas Dean's came with thanks. Wonder if it was a bit ugly behind the scenes. O'Neill changed a lot from the bloke who came here 3 years ago and since the last year or so turned into a stubborn, arrogant bloke who thought he knew better than anyone else.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 28, 2022 7:40:47 GMT
Fuck me they're all piling on. Mind you isn't this how we like it, everyone hating us? I agree. I feel like this could be a real sliding doors moment for us now. People hating how we’ve apparently sacked the AM, Sunderland hate us for poaching their manager and the rest of the championship still hate us for the money we threw around when we came down. As you said, Everyone piling in from all angles, is against the rest. Siege mentality.
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Post by Gods on Aug 28, 2022 7:47:49 GMT
Fuck me they're all piling on. Mind you isn't this how we like it, everyone hating us? I agree. I feel like this could be a real sliding doors moment for us now. People hating how we’ve apparently sacked the AM, Sunderland hate us for poaching their manager and the rest of the championship still hate us for the money we threw around when we came down. As you said, Everyone piling in from all angles, is against the rest. Siege mentality. Yes, this is good, a siege mentality I mean.
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Post by Stoke711 on Aug 28, 2022 7:58:04 GMT
Fuck me they're all piling on. Mind you isn't this how we like it, everyone hating us? I agree. I feel like this could be a real sliding doors moment for us now. People hating how we’ve apparently sacked the AM, Sunderland hate us for poaching their manager and the rest of the championship still hate us for the money we threw around when we came down. As you said, Everyone piling in from all angles, is against the rest. Siege mentality. I thought most of the championship loved us as it was the easiest 3 points of the season.
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Post by Marc01 on Aug 28, 2022 8:35:20 GMT
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Post by teenagefanclub on Aug 28, 2022 8:39:42 GMT
Who the hell do you think you are?? Posting facts that don’t fit peoples agenda’s.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 28, 2022 11:32:11 GMT
Have any of these journalists stated their view on how and when Holden should have been sacked? The photo looks like it was taken well after the game finished, maybe in the warm downs.
In the dressing room? At the training ground? Leave him wondering until Monday morning?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2022 11:36:02 GMT
Have any of these journalists stated their view on how and when Holden should have been sacked? The photo looks like it was taken well after the game finished, maybe in the warm downs. In the dressing room? At the training ground? Leave him wondering until Monday morning? Zackly.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 28, 2022 11:40:39 GMT
I'd like to hope that this story isn't true. But nothing would surprise me coming from baby Coates. Sincerely hope his morals are not lower than those of Talksport I don't think that's possible unless he owns an excavator Good luck to Dean though, he's always come across as a decent guy and I'm sure he'll get another job quickly.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 28, 2022 11:49:49 GMT
Good luck Dean If you're ever a number 2 talk louder to your gaffer when his head is clearly up his arse and things may have been different If anything, I think the problem was he was speaking too loudly.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 28, 2022 11:59:52 GMT
All the best Dean, always came across well and sounds a man of integrity
If AN had decided to keep him I would have had no issue, however totally understandable that he wants to bring his own assistant
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 28, 2022 12:02:27 GMT
It’s all a bit nicey nice isn’t it?
At the end of the day he did a shite job.
Thanks but bye now…
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 28, 2022 12:10:08 GMT
A new brush sweeps clean, but in this case, two thoroughly decent people, although not completely successful, have been swept aside for what the club thinks is for the greater good. Whether it works out that way or not remains to be seen. Let's hope they made the right decision. I thought his interview was class and am really pleased for him that he went out with a valuable win. Good Luck Dean and I wish you every success in the future.
OS.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 28, 2022 12:23:31 GMT
That's a private conversation between two grown men. Dean Holden will be adequately compensated. Talk about a non story. Yep, even if what Durham is saying is true, is it that bad? Two grown men tying up inevitable details and one of then being handsomely compensated along the way. It isn't actually a story at all So Durham prefers that we would have text him with the news or what??? What a complete non-story
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 28, 2022 12:26:35 GMT
Dean Holden is a professional and will be well looked after by Stoke City, just like every other failed manager/coach has been. Henry Winter can go and f**k himself. He doesn't give two shits about what happens to Stoke or what the fans have to put up with week in week out. He probably hasn't watched a Stoke match since we were last at The Bridge. What a tosser. Complete wanker. Would DH be stating we are a magnificent club if he had been dealt with badly. I don't think so. Winter knows fuck all, and shouldn't be making up shit and making cheap shots out of it. I hate this kind of gutter journalism. I wonder if Winter made as much fuss when Lampard's assistant Jody Morris was dismissed by Chelsea. After being told he was sacked Lampard had to call the owners to ask if Morris had been sacked as well, they told him he had though Morris was never informed directly by the club. They said it was up to Lampard to tell him.
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Post by Goonie on Aug 28, 2022 14:49:46 GMT
Good luck Dean If you're ever a number 2 talk louder to your gaffer when his head is clearly up his arse and things may have been different If anything, I think the problem was he was speaking too loudly. Yeah - it doesn't matter how loud you speak if someone doesn't want to listen
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 28, 2022 15:06:31 GMT
All the best Dean, always came across well and sounds a man of integrity If AN had decided to keep him I would have had no issue, however totally understandable that he wants to bring his own assistant Players needed the new message to come from a new voice. Him staying and contradicting what he was telling them last week would not have worked.
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Post by marylandstoke on Aug 28, 2022 15:22:39 GMT
We are City
Stoke City
No one likes us
We don’t care.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 28, 2022 15:53:20 GMT
Dean Holden is a professional and will be well looked after by Stoke City, just like every other failed manager/coach has been. Henry Winter can go and f**k himself. He doesn't give two shits about what happens to Stoke or what the fans have to put up with week in week out. He probably hasn't watched a Stoke match since we were last at The Bridge. What a tosser. Winter is a stuck up snob who looks down on any club unless it’s one of the big six. Never expect any objective journalism from him, he always has an angle and is a complete twat.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 28, 2022 16:44:13 GMT
I see no reason to kick a man when he is down and make snide remarks like some have done. Decent man, worked hard, did his best and good luck to him!
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Post by ibby on Aug 28, 2022 17:48:34 GMT
Best of luck in your next chapter Dean.
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Post by a on Aug 28, 2022 18:59:47 GMT
It’s all a bit nicey nice isn’t it? At the end of the day he did a shite job. Thanks but bye now… Woah, I think you need to cast your mind back a few seasons. Saved us from certain relegation don’t you know?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 19:13:26 GMT
Dean Holden is a professional and will be well looked after by Stoke City, just like every other failed manager/coach has been. Henry Winter can go and f**k himself. He doesn't give two shits about what happens to Stoke or what the fans have to put up with week in week out. He probably hasn't watched a Stoke match since we were last at The Bridge. What a tosser. I have to say he's my least favourite journalist. Always found him up himself, smug, thinks he's better than everyone else. Always got that impression when he was on the Sunday supplement on sky. Sports “journalism” isn’t journalism. It’s little more than sitting in your chair with a beer watching a game and setting your phone to receive Twitter alerts mentioning certain buzzwords.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 29, 2022 11:10:54 GMT
Dean Holden is a professional and will be well looked after by Stoke City, just like every other failed manager/coach has been. Henry Winter can go and f**k himself. He doesn't give two shits about what happens to Stoke or what the fans have to put up with week in week out. He probably hasn't watched a Stoke match since we were last at The Bridge. What a tosser. Winter is a stuck up snob who looks down on any club unless it’s one of the big six. Never expect any objective journalism from him, he always has an angle and is a complete twat. Its just misinformation as well, Stoke have acted properly here and gone through the right channels, unlike Chelsea who don't even tell their assistant managers when they have been sacked and expect the sacked managers to do their dirty work. (see Lampard's account of his sacking) I don't see the fuss about Coates having that conversation with Holden on the side of the pitch a) we don't know the contents of this conversation b) its still private, no-one is standing near to them c) Holden praised the club after being dismissed. d) perhaps Holden wanted to have that conversation away from the other players and staff there and then? who knows? I'm sure if Holden had not wanted that conversation there he would said so
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 29, 2022 12:26:32 GMT
Winter is a stuck up snob who looks down on any club unless it’s one of the big six. Never expect any objective journalism from him, he always has an angle and is a complete twat. Its just misinformation as well, Stoke have acted properly here and gone through the right channels, unlike Chelsea who don't even tell their assistant managers when they have been sacked and expect the sacked managers to do their dirty work. (see Lampard's account of his sacking) I don't see the fuss about Coates having that conversation with Holden on the side of the pitch a) we don't know the contents of this conversation b) its still private, no-one is standing near to them c) Holden praised the club after being dismissed. d) perhaps Holden wanted to have that conversation away from the other players and staff there and then? who knows? I'm sure if Holden had not wanted that conversation there he would said so But we do know what happened pitchside through Rory, he was told he wouldn’t be returning on the coach back to Stoke, then JC gifted Dean the training gear that he was wearing as a mark of the respect for his Stirling efforts during this difficult period in the clubs recent history.
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 29, 2022 12:26:44 GMT
Winter is a stuck up snob who looks down on any club unless it’s one of the big six. Never expect any objective journalism from him, he always has an angle and is a complete twat. Its just misinformation as well, Stoke have acted properly here and gone through the right channels, unlike Chelsea who don't even tell their assistant managers when they have been sacked and expect the sacked managers to do their dirty work. (see Lampard's account of his sacking) I don't see the fuss about Coates having that conversation with Holden on the side of the pitch a) we don't know the contents of this conversation b) its still private, no-one is standing near to them c) Holden praised the club after being dismissed. d) perhaps Holden wanted to have that conversation away from the other players and staff there and then? who knows? I'm sure if Holden had not wanted that conversation there he would said so But we do know what happened pitchside through Rory, he was told he wouldn’t be returning on the coach back to Stoke, then JC gifted Dean the training gear that he was wearing as a mark of the respect for his Stirling efforts during this difficult period in the clubs recent history.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 29, 2022 12:33:56 GMT
I have to say he's my least favourite journalist. Always found him up himself, smug, thinks he's better than everyone else. Always got that impression when he was on the Sunday supplement on sky. Sports “journalism” isn’t journalism. It’s little more than sitting in your chair with a beer watching a game and setting your phone to receive Twitter alerts mentioning certain buzzwords. Think Hugh McIlvanney was about a bit more than that like…
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