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Post by aixpotter on Aug 27, 2022 19:18:28 GMT
Are we sure that’s Jon. It does not look him to me! Which one are you looking at? the one on the right? The one on the left in the suit
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Post by gawa on Aug 27, 2022 19:18:57 GMT
Said in his presser yesterday that O'Neil sacking came as an unexpected surprise to him and the squad.
Then the fact Neil was spotted in the stadium today and also at the start of August. Does suggest there's been a bit of cloak and dagger going on.
Doubt he's been sacked pitch side though, probably already knew what was coming before the game kicked off. Just wasn't announced officially till afterwards. That's probably more just him saying farewell or whatever.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 27, 2022 19:20:38 GMT
I suspected it was bullshit but this photo is conclusive evidence. A grown man making up this kind of rumour is beyond embarrassing.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 27, 2022 19:20:52 GMT
Which one are you looking at? the one on the right? The one on the left in the suit Perhaps they did a job swap for the day. Might explain why the match photos were all shite.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 19:21:58 GMT
How is that proof? Unless Holden comes out and says he was done wrong, then why would we believe it. The result (his sacking) was always to be the case today, regardless of how we performed or what the final score was. He came in under MON, as such, he leaves with him. Fairly standard footballing practice. Holden though should be commended for seeing out what I’m sure he knew to be his last day in the job with respect and professionalism.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 27, 2022 19:25:07 GMT
Apparently one of the squad confirmed that this is completely true, JC also informed Holden that his presence on the team coach could have a disruptive influence on the team and so a taxi from the ground had already been arranged to take him home. His company vehicle had already been returned to the sponsor whilst the team was away at Blackburn, one bonus from JC to Holden was that he could keep his training gear as a goodwill gesture from the club, which if true is a nice gesture. Can confirm he wasn't given the training gear. We saw him sobbing in the carpark in his pants. Awkward. Someone, get me a hanky - I can't stop crying.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 27, 2022 19:26:13 GMT
Are we sure that’s Jon. It does not look him to me! Which one are you looking at? the one on the right? It's definitely him. He's a keen amateur photographer. Not sure who the geezer talking to Holden is.
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Post by aixpotter on Aug 27, 2022 19:28:35 GMT
Which one are you looking at? the one on the right? The one on the left in the suit The other person in the foreground is Phil Greig, the club photographer
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 27, 2022 19:29:52 GMT
Which one is Dean Holden?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 27, 2022 19:31:19 GMT
Holden had to go. I don’t care if it was done in the mens toilets!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 19:34:12 GMT
I've criticised these owners for long enough about how they run the football side of our club and will continue to do so until I see otherwise, but some no mark Talksport hack will never, and I mean never convince me that they are nothing but decent, honourable business people that do things properly.
There is absolutely no chance that Dean Holden was sacked pitchside - before, during or after.
You shameful, shameful wanker.
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Post by iamstokie on Aug 27, 2022 19:34:40 GMT
By , he’s not do much really
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Post by robscfc on Aug 27, 2022 19:35:10 GMT
Holden had to go. I don’t care if it was done in the mens toilets! You dirty Bastard!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 27, 2022 19:35:45 GMT
Durham spreading it now?
Who's spinning this shit?
Even if true, would it be that bad if done courteously? Would he prefer to be told Monday morning after he's turned up for work?
Wouldn't you want to be told ASAP?
It's just a nonsense story. It was clear to everyone he was off
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 27, 2022 19:38:00 GMT
Apparently one of the squad confirmed that this is completely true, JC also informed Holden that his presence on the team coach could have a disruptive influence on the team and so a taxi from the ground had already been arranged to take him home. His company vehicle had already been returned to the sponsor whilst the team was away at Blackburn, one bonus from JC to Holden was that he could keep his training gear as a goodwill gesture from the club, which if true is a nice gesture. The anonymous squad member must have been hiding behind the advertising hoardings to have heard exactly what was said. And they must be shagging the admin officer to know the details of the return of his car and the taxi. And if the track suit bit is true it's laughably small time bearing in mind the 1000's of £ we'll be paying him off. Fair play. Hey don’t shoot the messenger, JC informed Rory surrounding Holdens absence from the coach on the return journey to Stoke, so Rory could scrub 1x Chips,Pudding,Peas & Gravy from his list, but JC reminded Rory to get a receipt as every penny counts towards FFP as Alex would need a decent war chest for the transfer deadline, as one would expect Rory informed his son Liam about the unfolding events fearing that Liam would be getting cold feet about his recent move, and that’s where I got the story from
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 19:39:16 GMT
I've criticised these owners for long enough about how they run the football side of our club and will continue to do so until I see otherwise, but some no mark Talksport hack will never, and I mean never convince me that they are nothing but decent, honourable business people that do things properly.
There is absolutely no chance that Dean Holden was sacked pitchside - before, during or after.
You shameful, shameful wanker.
Even if he was sacked pitchside after the game, is it a big deal? Is it unprofessional? It’s not exactly out of the blue is it? I’d rather be sacked face to face by my boss than over the phone or via email. I doubt he went down there, called him useless and told him to sod off either.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 27, 2022 19:39:17 GMT
Talksport do get some things right.... The fact Dean did the press conference immediately after and spoke solely about the team tells you the kind of bloke he is.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 27, 2022 19:39:55 GMT
Durham spreading it now? Who's spinning this shit? Even if true, would it be that bad if done courteously? Would he prefer to be told Monday morning after he's turned up for work? Wouldn't you want to be told ASAP? It's just a nonsense story. It was clear to everyone he was off It could have been that Coates went down to congratulate him and Holden asked him straight up if he was being fired. Couldn't really say no could he. So technically it may be true but why these nomark shysters are spinning it this way god only knows. Unless they're all secret Mackems.
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 27, 2022 19:40:23 GMT
Durham spreading it now? Who's spinning this shit? Even if true, would it be that bad if done courteously? Would he prefer to be told Monday morning after he's turned up for work? Wouldn't you want to be told ASAP? It's just a nonsense story. It was clear to everyone he was off It's absolutely distasteful from 'journalists'.
For all our faults as a club, there is no way on God's green earth that John sacks him pitchside.
We didn't with any of our other employed coaching staff past and present, so why would we start now.
Durham and the other bloke can both fuck off.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 27, 2022 19:43:39 GMT
The anonymous squad member must have been hiding behind the advertising hoardings to have heard exactly what was said. And they must be shagging the admin officer to know the details of the return of his car and the taxi. And if the track suit bit is true it's laughably small time bearing in mind the 1000's of £ we'll be paying him off. Fair play. Hey don’t shoot the messenger, JC informed Rory surrounding Holdens absence from the coach on the return journey to Stoke, so Rory could scrub 1x Chips,Pudding,Peas & Gravy from his list, but JC reminded Rory to get a receipt as every penny counts towards FFP as Alex would need a decent war chest for the transfer deadline, as one would expect Rory informed his son Liam about the unfolding events fearing that Liam would be getting cold feet about his recent move, and that’s where I got the story from Still don't believe it. I know for a fact they have a Lidl meal deal on the way home. Chips aren't cheap anymore you know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 19:43:48 GMT
Durham spreading it now? Who's spinning this shit? Even if true, would it be that bad if done courteously? Would he prefer to be told Monday morning after he's turned up for work? Wouldn't you want to be told ASAP? It's just a nonsense story. It was clear to everyone he was off I'd like to hope that this story isn't true. But nothing would surprise me coming from baby Coates.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 27, 2022 19:45:57 GMT
Well think about it. AN has already made it clear that he wants to bring in his own assistant from Sunderland. Holden was prepared for this and even referenced it in his (yesterday?) interview as, "that's just football." Also has made it clear that he wants to hook back up with MON again after this. If this would be JC giving him "notice" he could be simply relaying that "we've signed Alex Neil and he wants his own assistant here, mate. Sorry to have to tell you this." (Instead of sitting on it until tomorrow or whatever cocktail hour some would prefer the club have done it) Just my guess - no more plausible than someone claiming JC is saying "Get your f&%king stuff cleared out now and go!! In the name of God Go!" (which I doubt) But without any cartoon captions, we have no idea what is being discussed/said. OR...they could have highlighted a "fact" that the photog in the foreground has been having a personal relationship with that water-bottle for over an hour or something probably more factual.
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 27, 2022 19:47:02 GMT
If it’s as true as they say, Holden will amend it on Twitter.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 27, 2022 19:47:02 GMT
Durham spreading it now? Who's spinning this shit? Even if true, would it be that bad if done courteously? Would he prefer to be told Monday morning after he's turned up for work? Wouldn't you want to be told ASAP? It's just a nonsense story. It was clear to everyone he was off It's absolutely distasteful from 'journalists'. For all our faults as a club, there is no way on God's green earth that John sacks him pitchside.
We didn't with any of our other employed coaching staff past and present, so why would we start now. Durham the cunt, and the other bloke can both fuck off.
Hmmmmmm
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Post by hughjarse on Aug 27, 2022 19:49:38 GMT
Durham spreading it now? Who's spinning this shit? Even if true, would it be that bad if done courteously? Would he prefer to be told Monday morning after he's turned up for work? Wouldn't you want to be told ASAP? It's just a nonsense story. It was clear to everyone he was off I'd like to hope that this story isn't true. But nothing would surprise me coming from baby Coates. Sincerely hope his morals are not lower than those of Talksport
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 27, 2022 19:58:31 GMT
I've criticised these owners for long enough about how they run the football side of our club and will continue to do so until I see otherwise, but some no mark Talksport hack will never, and I mean never convince me that they are nothing but decent, honourable business people that do things properly.
There is absolutely no chance that Dean Holden was sacked pitchside - before, during or after.
You shameful, shameful wanker.
I like you have criticised the owners recently but I’ve got to say this last few days they have got things right. I agree re sacking of Holden no way they did it pitchside they are too decent for that
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 27, 2022 19:59:51 GMT
Hey don’t shoot the messenger, JC informed Rory surrounding Holdens absence from the coach on the return journey to Stoke, so Rory could scrub 1x Chips,Pudding,Peas & Gravy from his list, but JC reminded Rory to get a receipt as every penny counts towards FFP as Alex would need a decent war chest for the transfer deadline, as one would expect Rory informed his son Liam about the unfolding events fearing that Liam would be getting cold feet about his recent move, and that’s where I got the story from Still don't believe it. I know for a fact they have a Lidl meal deal on the way home. Chips aren't cheap anymore you know. Everyone knows that the club are contractually bound that a away win means Chippy night !
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Post by spirered on Aug 27, 2022 20:02:07 GMT
I'd like to hope that this story isn't true. But nothing would surprise me coming from baby Coates. Sincerely hope his morals are not lower than those of Talksport What's wrong with telling Holden pitch side? Looks pretty professional, probably being thanked for what he had done...at last someone making a decision in the best interests of the club.
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Post by Biblical on Aug 27, 2022 20:02:35 GMT
I don’t believe for one second that we’ve told Holden he’s no longer required right after the game.
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 27, 2022 20:04:28 GMT
Well think about it. AN has already made it clear that he wants to bring in his own assistant from Sunderland. Holden was prepared for this and even referenced it in his (yesterday?) interview as, "that's just football." Also has made it clear that he wants to hook back up with MON again after this. If this would be JC giving him "notice" he could be simply relaying that "we've signed Alex Neil and he wants his own assistant here, mate. Sorry to have to tell you this." (Instead of sitting on it until tomorrow or whatever cocktail hour some would prefer the club have done it) Just my guess - no more plausible than someone claiming JC is saying "Get your f&%king stuff cleared out now and go!! In the name of God Go!" (which I doubt) But without any cartoon captions, we have no idea what is being discussed/said. OR...they could have highlighted a "fact" that the photog in the foreground has been having a personal relationship with that water-bottle for over an hour or something probably more factual. If I were Holden I’d be looking for a managers job not following mon otherwise he will find himself at shamrock
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