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Post by neddy on Aug 18, 2022 17:03:35 GMT
Clarke not really a wing back and to not have a left footer in a back three is poor. They may get a left footed centre half allegedly?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 18, 2022 17:15:04 GMT
I know, and I hope Clark comes in but if not…
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Post by Block 26 on Aug 18, 2022 17:25:23 GMT
Danny Batth to score first or last 33/1… or anytime 14/1. Put you’re house on it!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 18, 2022 17:28:32 GMT
Comes to something when I'm nodding along at the prospect of Wilmot and Fox starting in a back 4. I'd be tempted. Fosu didn't look wing-backy, let alone full-backy I can’t think of another way of doing it and it is crap but that tonight was up there with the worst of worst over the last 4 years. We can’t do it again. Fosu clearly wanted to attack. He’s quick and wanted the ball into space or on the run. Get him up the pitch. It’s a shambolic situation he’s got us in. Agree about Fosu but now we’ve sign Delap, it’d be Campbell who misses out for me with Brown on the right. Also prefer Smallbone to start as the 10 and DWP as an impact sub
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 18, 2022 17:29:33 GMT
This for me - Bursik Wilmot Taylor Jagielka Fox Kilkenny, Thompson Baker Campbell, Gayle, Brown Kilkenny and Thompson protect a suspect back 4 (nothing we can do about it being suspect as we dont have the personnel) but allow Baker to push forward / play the killer pass. Nice and compact and makes the best of what we have Quite like that line up, looks balanced at least
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 18, 2022 17:45:38 GMT
Right or wrong, I expect this:
Bursik
Taylor Jags Wilmot
Fosu Baker Smallbone Kilkenny Thompson
Gayle Brown
Delap, Campbell and DWP would be useful off the bench
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 18, 2022 17:45:45 GMT
Bursik
Fosu Taylor Jags Fox (🤢)
Baker Thompson Smallbone
DWP Brown Gayle
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Post by wuzza on Aug 18, 2022 17:46:19 GMT
I’ve no idea what the current Sunderland set up is like but they are hardly going to be Real Madrid on steroids. However there is every chance that they will turn up and put 11 players out on the park ......for this reason I am not confident 😏
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Aug 18, 2022 17:50:49 GMT
Surely can’t start Clucas? If Laurent and Tymon are injured it will be Thompson wing back and Clucas midfield. He doesn't have bollocks to change it up and we'll more than likely get dicked.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Aug 18, 2022 17:51:57 GMT
I mean at the minute I want to see Wilmot at right back and Fox at left back. That’s how bad the shambles of a back 3 under MON has been. Ditto his recruitment. Bursik Wilmot Taylor Jagielka Fox Baker Kilkenny Campbell DWP Fosu Brown As much as I dislike Fox I have to agree. Although, I imagine as an out and out LB he isn't that bad. Just generic.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 18, 2022 18:28:45 GMT
Right or wrong, I expect this: Bursik Taylor Jags Wilmot Fosu Baker Smallbone Kilkenny Thompson Gayle Brown Delap, Campbell and DWP would be useful off the bench You’ve forgotten Clucas I just can’t see how he can’t play a 3 upfront A 3 of Brown Delap Gayle would get the stadium rocking. It would be negligent to go 5 at the back again knowing it doesn’t work.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 18, 2022 18:30:14 GMT
Right or wrong, I expect this: Bursik Taylor Jags Wilmot Fosu Baker Smallbone Kilkenny Thompson Gayle Brown Delap, Campbell and DWP would be useful off the bench You’ve forgotten Clucas I just can’t see how he can’t play a 3 upfront A 3 of Brown Delap Gayle would get the stadium rocking. It would be negligent to go 5 at the back again knowing it doesn’t work. It would but he will…..
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 18, 2022 18:30:24 GMT
Surely can’t start Clucas? If Laurent and Tymon are injured it will be Thompson wing back and Clucas midfield. He doesn't have bollocks to change it up and we'll more than likely get dicked. Surely Kilkenny was much more effectual and has to start!?!
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Post by collo68 on Aug 18, 2022 18:49:15 GMT
Right or wrong, I expect this: Bursik Taylor Jags Wilmot Fosu Baker Smallbone Kilkenny Thompson Gayle Brown Delap, Campbell and DWP would be useful off the bench You’ve forgotten Clucas I just can’t see how he can’t play a 3 upfront A 3 of Brown Delap Gayle would get the stadium rocking. It would be negligent to go 5 at the back again knowing it doesn’t work. He can still play that front 3 and play 343 as he did when he brought Campbell on Wednesday
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Post by saltydog on Aug 18, 2022 19:01:26 GMT
I actually think there’s a good LB in fox but I also think he’s a confidence player who needs games under him or competent players around him to find that confidence.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 18, 2022 19:08:52 GMT
With there large following & our very quiet support which in all honesty is understandable this will feel very much like a home match for the Mackems which does not bode well. We need to be on the front foot from the off to lift the crowd & keep there lot silent 2 early goals should do it but i won't hold my breath.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 18, 2022 19:09:50 GMT
Makes me feel a bit sick but we are in desperate needs : Bursik Wilmot Clarke Jagielka Fox Baker Smallbone Kilkenny Brown Gayle Campbell
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 18, 2022 19:20:45 GMT
I thought Fosu's performance was encouraging. Showed pace and awareness too.
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Post by Gawa on Aug 18, 2022 19:28:37 GMT
Two familiar faces will be returning on Saturday too with Jack Clarke and Danny Baath.
Jack Clarke has been converted into a LWB so that will be interesting to see.
Sunderland have a few injury issues like ourselves. Ballad and Winchester are both injured leaving them little options at RCB. Onien will likely be moved back to defence again to accommodate.
Which then leaves them a few issues in centre midfield as Cory Evans is injured and Dan Neil is suspended.
Be interesting to see how both teams line up.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 18, 2022 19:44:28 GMT
Even the most ardent fan would not expect us to beat Sunderland given the shit experienced hitherto
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Post by lordb on Aug 18, 2022 19:52:01 GMT
Two familiar faces will be returning on Saturday too with Jack Clarke and Danny Baath. Jack Clarke has been converted into a LWB so that will be interesting to see. Sunderland have a few injury issues like ourselves. Ballad and Winchester are both injured leaving them little options at RCB. Onien will likely be moved back to defence again to accommodate. Which then leaves them a few issues in centre midfield as Cory Evans is injured and Dan Neil is suspended. Be interesting to see how both teams line up. Batth went off injured last night
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Post by Gawa on Aug 18, 2022 19:55:01 GMT
Two familiar faces will be returning on Saturday too with Jack Clarke and Danny Baath. Jack Clarke has been converted into a LWB so that will be interesting to see. Sunderland have a few injury issues like ourselves. Ballad and Winchester are both injured leaving them little options at RCB. Onien will likely be moved back to defence again to accommodate. Which then leaves them a few issues in centre midfield as Cory Evans is injured and Dan Neil is suspended. Be interesting to see how both teams line up. Batth went off injured last night Reading the Sunderland forum I think they think it was just a small injury and a precaution. There's also a refreshing stokie on there too he speaks some sense.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 18, 2022 19:56:59 GMT
I’d just love MON to go shit or bust for Sunderland. If he puts a team out that fans can get behind he will indirectly get less grief, even if we lose. Come on MON surprise us and give us something to get excited about.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 18, 2022 20:03:32 GMT
Comes to something when I'm nodding along at the prospect of Wilmot and Fox starting in a back 4. I'd be tempted. Fosu didn't look wing-backy, let alone full-backy Fosu is not a wing back, he is an out and out winger... Until MON gets his grubby mits on him... What’s wrong with a winger at WB people have been squealing for months about MON’s version of 352 being 5 at the back. Stick an attacking player in one of those positions and you’re all squealing because he isn’t a defender.
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Post by Gawa on Aug 18, 2022 20:17:37 GMT
I’d just love MON to go shit or bust for Sunderland. If he puts a team out that fans can get behind he will indirectly get less grief, even if we lose. Come on MON surprise us and give us something to get excited about. What team and formation you play out of interest? Taking our team and theirs into account I can't figure out if 433, 4312 or 352 is best. They've massively over performed on xG so far and should have lost all their games. Ross Stewart is probably their main man and main goal threat so will need to keep him quiet. I'd probably play either: Bursik Taylor Flint Wilmot Fosu Baker Kilkenny Thompson Smallbone Brown Delap/Gayle Or Bursik Wilmot Taylor Flint Fox Kilkenny Baker Thompson Smallbone Brown Delap/Gayle Or Bursik Wilmot Taylor Flint Fox Kilkenny Baker Thompson Brown Delap/Gayle Fosu No issues with Jags coming in as well but with his age not sure if 2 days recovery is enough.
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 18, 2022 20:32:53 GMT
Fosu is not a wing back, he is an out and out winger... Until MON gets his grubby mits on him... What’s wrong with a winger at WB people have been squealing for months about MON’s version of 352 being 5 at the back. Stick an attacking player in one of those positions and you’re all squealing because he isn’t a defender. My response was aimed at the "he didn't look wing backy let alone full backy" I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, just pointing out that his positioning was off because he doesn't play there. An attacking WB is fine but it looked to be a flat 5 last night
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 18, 2022 20:56:19 GMT
What’s wrong with a winger at WB people have been squealing for months about MON’s version of 352 being 5 at the back. Stick an attacking player in one of those positions and you’re all squealing because he isn’t a defender. My response was aimed at the "he didn't look wing backy let alone full backy" I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, just pointing out that his positioning was off because he doesn't play there. An attacking WB is fine but it looked to be a flat 5 last night It usually does MON is pretty confused about what his formations actually are. The only consistent thing is they’re nearly always more negative than they’re meant to be. He’d tell you that was 352. If it looks like a flat 5 it’s far too negative for a home game.
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Post by lordb on Aug 18, 2022 20:59:05 GMT
My response was aimed at the "he didn't look wing backy let alone full backy" I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, just pointing out that his positioning was off because he doesn't play there. An attacking WB is fine but it looked to be a flat 5 last night It usually does MON is pretty confused about what his formations actually are. The only consistent thing is they’re nearly always more negative than they’re meant to be. He’d tell you that was 352. If it looks like a flat 5 it’s far too negative for a home game. Deffo 532 last night V Blackpool it was 3412 and was miles better but Blackpool made it very easy for us
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 18, 2022 21:03:55 GMT
It usually does MON is pretty confused about what his formations actually are. The only consistent thing is they’re nearly always more negative than they’re meant to be. He’d tell you that was 352. If it looks like a flat 5 it’s far too negative for a home game. Deffo 532 last night V Blackpool it was 3412 and was miles better but Blackpool made it very easy for us You’d have to ask the manager what he thought it was. It very often looks like a 5 to me but that’s not his take on it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 22:52:45 GMT
Batth went off injured last night Reading the Sunderland forum I think they think it was just a small injury and a precaution. There's also a refreshing stokie on there too he speaks some sense. I had a quick look ...he does then uses the T word . Can't go either on Saturday as away also but Sunderland aren't anywhere near the side Boro are and would love to be there . Oh well.
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