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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 6, 2022 23:40:26 GMT
That's really weird because all the posters who have been on here for years are the ones who expect more from the current situation. Sounds like you're in the minority and only come on here when we play well once every few months. Oh yeah? I’m there every week 🤷🏻♂️ Great! I'll talk to you in a few months when we play well again I suppose.
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Post by potterburt on Aug 6, 2022 23:42:04 GMT
Bayern chirped up to a generic post as to a certain type of supporter - my point is that it’s quite a toxic mindset for a supporter. I’ve conversed with him since he got involved. It was never directed or about him. I’m just responding in response You literally mentioned my name about 3 posts in 😂 Another one that needs to get a grip and grow up. Where I was defending the generalisation that what I was saying might have been directly directed at someone like you - you bloomin fooking idiot! Chirped up as per though non the less!!! 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2022 23:42:30 GMT
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Post by gawa on Aug 6, 2022 23:42:42 GMT
Mainly away from this forum of a cesspit - hence the post?! Also - it wasn’t 8 months, it was with covid, where the unusual posters came on to find their community and left because of the constant toxic negative posters that took it over.. That's really weird because all the posters who have been on here for years are the ones who expect more from the current situation. Sounds like you're in the minority and only come on here when we play well once every few months. I think there's a difference between fans criticising performances such as last week against Millwall, and fans wanting the manager out. The main posters on here pushing MON out is the same 20 names or so which have been criticising the manager at any given opportunity for the last 6 months, and trying to descend most threads into being about the manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2022 23:43:52 GMT
That's really weird because all the posters who have been on here for years are the ones who expect more from the current situation. Sounds like you're in the minority and only come on here when we play well once every few months. I think there's a difference between fans criticising performances such as last week against Millwall, and fans wanting the manager out. The main posters on here pushing MON out is the same 20 names or so which have been criticising the manager at any given opportunity for the last 6 months, and trying to descend most threads into being about the manager. No one I spoke to at the end of last season in real life would have been arsed if he was sacked. And there’s more than 20 on here. That’s just fantasy stuff.
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Post by potterburt on Aug 6, 2022 23:44:54 GMT
That's really weird because all the posters who have been on here for years are the ones who expect more from the current situation. Sounds like you're in the minority and only come on here when we play well once every few months. I think there's a difference between fans criticising performances such as last week against Millwall, and fans wanting the manager out. The main posters on here pushing MON out is the same 20 names or so which have been criticising the manager at any given opportunity for the last 6 months, and trying to descend most threads into being about the manager. Totally - I’m really just responding to this to counter balance the negative bullshit that we’ve had from some ‘sort of suppose Stoke fans’ and thus makes them feel validated and have importance in my life
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Post by gawa on Aug 6, 2022 23:52:25 GMT
I think there's a difference between fans criticising performances such as last week against Millwall, and fans wanting the manager out. The main posters on here pushing MON out is the same 20 names or so which have been criticising the manager at any given opportunity for the last 6 months, and trying to descend most threads into being about the manager. No one I spoke to at the end of last season in real life would have been arsed if he was sacked. And there’s more than 20 on here. That’s just fantasy stuff. I said the main, as in there is a cohert of active supporters which clearly have an agenda. Obviously there are some less active posters who share the same view. But there is a difference between being disappointed with performances and wanting the manager out. And I think those who want the manager out are the most vocal about it on the forum which gives a perception its a larger majority than it is. There's a difference between criticising the manager and wanting the manager sacked ASAP. And I think those you spoke to in the stadium who may have felt negative, I don't think that necessarily means they also shared the opinion that the manager should be sacked. Although of course some will, but certainly not all or a large overall majority. A good example of this would be a poster like gods who has been critical of the manager. But is also of the opinion he should have around 10 games before making a decision. (believe I seen he said this today)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2022 23:56:32 GMT
No one I spoke to at the end of last season in real life would have been arsed if he was sacked. And there’s more than 20 on here. That’s just fantasy stuff. I said the main, as in there is a cohert of active supporters which clearly have an agenda. Obviously there are some less active posters who share the same view. But there is a difference between being disappointed with performances and wanting the manager out. And I think those who want the manager out are the most vocal about it on the forum which gives a perception its a larger majority than it is. There's a difference between criticising the manager and wanting the manager sacked ASAP. And I think those you spoke to in the stadium who may have felt negative, I don't think that necessarily means they also shared the opinion that the manager should be sacked. The word agenda needs banning for a start. The people in the ground weren’t bothered about him and saw/see him as the biggest hinderance. Again that was the talk today before kick off. This isn’t like TP or Hughes. Most fans I speak to seem not fussed by him and would happily see him leave. All whilst thinking he seems a nice chap. Which he does. And again, the talk before the game was about kicking off when we go a goal down 😂and that wasn’t from me. I predicted a 5 nil win 😂
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Post by stokiepmre89 on Aug 7, 2022 0:06:04 GMT
I went to the game today fully envisaging being a goal down early on and a toxic atmosphere. And after pre-season / the abject showing at millwall I don't think it was wrong to be pessimistic. It was a totally pleasant surprise and a solid as hell performance. We were hungry and physical and full of intensity. It's a results business first and foremost (performances important too) and it was an excellent result and performance.
But let's not get carried away; for me personally I've gone from fearing a relegation battle to expecting us to finish mid-table. It'll take a lot more results/performances of that ilk before I'm dreaming of more. Blackpool were poor but you can only beat what's in front of you. Football supporters generally have short-term mentality in a game/league that is all about the mid/longterm. In the same way that people were wrong to totally lose their shit over the last few weeks, people are also wrong to act like today alone makes it acceptable to berate those who are vocally pessimistic. We have a long way to go before we are in a position to make reasonable predictions as to how this season is going to shapeup.
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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 7, 2022 0:09:30 GMT
Today was a huge improvement in attitude and intent.
It needs to continue and I hope it does. It does not however, wipe out the last 18 months of mostly negative boring dross. Continue with the same intent and attitude as today, put a run together, play with aggression and heart and Ill gladly change my mind about MON.
One performance does not change the bigger picture. Its a start though.
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 0:09:53 GMT
Quite enlightening that this theead has just become about Bayern… Because Nayern stared to get involved…
Once again… fair play to your narcissism and I’m sorry that this forum has to adhere to it as the main vocal outpost
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 0:10:43 GMT
Quite enlightening that this theead has just become about Bayern… Because Nayern stared to get involved… Once again… fair play to your narcissism and I’m sorry that this forum has to adhere to it as the main vocal outpost You literally mentioned my name 2 posts in 😂😂
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 0:12:46 GMT
Quite enlightening that this theead has just become about Bayern… Because Nayern stared to get involved… Once again… fair play to your narcissism and I’m sorry that this forum has to adhere to it as the main vocal outpost You literally mentioned my name 2 posts in 😂😂 Yeah..great footy chat, cause that’s what you’re here for!
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Post by gawa on Aug 7, 2022 0:12:58 GMT
I went to the game today fully envisaging being a goal down early on and a toxic atmosphere. And after pre-season / the abject showing at millwall I don't think it was wrong to be pessimistic. It was a totally pleasant surprise and a solid as hell performance. We were hungry and physical and full of intensity. It's a results business first and foremost (performances important too) and it was an excellent result and performance. But let's not get carried away; for me personally I've gone from fearing a relegation battle to expecting us to finish mid-table. It'll take a lot more results/performances of that ilk before I'm dreaming of more. Blackpool were poor but you can only beat what's in front of you. Football supporters generally have short-term mentality in a game/league that is all about the mid/longterm. In the same way that people were wrong to totally lose their shit over the last few weeks, people are also wrong to act like today alone makes it acceptable to berate those who are vocally pessimistic. We have a long way to go before we are in a position to make reasonable predictions as to how this season is going to shapeup. Good balanced post.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 0:13:36 GMT
You literally mentioned my name 2 posts in 😂😂 Yeah..great footy chat, cause that’s what you’re here for! You started a thread slating fans. Stop crying you’re being called out for this nonsense.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 0:15:49 GMT
You literally mentioned my name 2 posts in 😂😂 Yeah..great footy chat, cause that’s what you’re here for! The below post made 2 days ago was your last before the opening post on this thread. Well done on talking about the game before starting a bait thread that serves no purpose bar to snipe at fans. Top supporter. I think the style of play a team is seen to play affects the bids/prices for their players. Maybe that's why Brighton and Southampton tend to attract bigger bids than Stoke and Burnley- their players are deemed to be more skillful and therefore more appealing to the bigger clubs. Booollllllllloooooxxxx A style of play dictates market value???? Oh dear…. I dunno why I’m trying illuminate to such a non-supportively supposed fan but here goes… Brighton had early investment and recruitment similar to Brentford which saw them rise through the leagues with a continuing model of purchasing and investing. Stoke does not, we were crude and luckily got promoted, (after a while negative f@cktards supporters (I’m sure you are not one) went against what got us there and we changed to excited Mr Spenny and then we spent on shit with a charlatan who dissembled the team that made us relegated, while we are still feeling the hangover.
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 0:16:34 GMT
Yeah..great footy chat, cause that’s what you’re here for! You started a thread slating fans. Stop crying you’re being called out for this nonsense. I’m not crying 😂 😆 😛 😆 You piped up!!! And you just epitomised my whole point… Not a supporter - forum/internet attention seeker. I do feel for you Bayern. Even if you don’t know it. It’s gotta be hard.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 0:19:29 GMT
You started a thread slating fans. Stop crying you’re being called out for this nonsense. I’m not crying 😂 😆 😛 😆 You piped up!!! And you just epitomised my whole point… Not a supporter - forum/internet attention seeker. I do feel for you Bayern. Even if you don’t know it. It’s gotta be hard. I piped up on a thread where you’re asking a question “where are the doom mongerers?!?!”. I didn’t epitomise it. I’m a doom mongerer, I’m here. I showed your point is shit. 😂
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 0:19:50 GMT
👀 🔍 👀
Anyone seen any positive posts from Bayern where he’s not just taken over a forum to defend his honour???
In my eyes tire massively called out as the charlatan fan that I m evident you are….
For the rest… Enjoy conversing in Bayerns cavern
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 0:20:36 GMT
I’m not crying 😂 😆 😛 😆 You piped up!!! And you just epitomised my whole point… Not a supporter - forum/internet attention seeker. I do feel for you Bayern. Even if you don’t know it. It’s gotta be hard. I piped up on a thread where you’re asking a question “where are the doom mongerers?!?!”. I didn’t epitomise it. I’m a doom mongerer, I’m here. I showed your point is shit. 😂 😭
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 0:20:59 GMT
👀 🔍 👀 Anyone seen any positive posts from Bayern where he’s not just taken over a forum to defend his honour??? In my eyes tire massively called out as the charlatan fan that I m evident you are…. For the rest… Enjoy conversing in Bayerns cavern You came on here to snipe at fans and not talk football. Well done.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 7, 2022 0:22:26 GMT
You could spin it around and ask where the happy clappers have been for the past 8 months. Right here clapping happily!
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 0:23:01 GMT
👀 🔍 👀 Anyone seen any positive posts from Bayern where he’s not just taken over a forum to defend his honour??? In my eyes tire massively called out as the charlatan fan that I m evident you are…. For the rest… Enjoy conversing in Bayerns cavern You came on here to snipe at fans and not talk football. Well done. Pahahaha Like you? chatingt allllll about the hyperbole of Edwards being the answer and because of that MoN need to go - duckl off you streaky giraffe
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Post by kustokie on Aug 7, 2022 0:47:19 GMT
one swallow...
I must admit i was despondent after last week; now I see we have some reason for hope. It was an easy win against a team that we made to look very ordinary. Two great, well worked goals. However, there's still a lot of work to do. Despite a well taken goal, I am not convinced Clarke is the answer to our problems on the right. MON said after the game that we passed the ball well. We didn't. Too missed placed passes in mid-field are, hopefully due to the fact this is a work in progress. A better team would have punished those mistakes. The substitutions came way too late. Tymon was knackered and should have been taken off after 70 mins. Campbell should have replaced Gayle at the same time. Brown worked his tail off and was rewarded with a very well taken goal. Tymon was man of the match by a country mile.
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 1:01:58 GMT
Can we just talk some sensible football without the polarised nonessential and judgemental view point of fooking Bayern for a change!!???🙏🏻🙏🏻😆
There is a reason he’s constantly chirping in! Insecurely fuck whit who needs validation…the other alternative to that is that we could actually start supporting some young hungry stoke grown players and a team team that might do something !!?!?!!
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Post by s7oke on Aug 7, 2022 1:03:39 GMT
Mainly away from this forum of a cesspit - hence the post?! Everyone I spoke to before the game wasn’t happy. You can keep peddling this nonsense but I think most people are signing from the same hymn sheet. MoN is on borrowed time and needs to change his whole philosophy to survive. Today was a good start. 👍
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Post by potterburt on Aug 7, 2022 1:06:35 GMT
👀 🔍 👀 Anyone seen any positive posts from Bayern where he’s not just taken over a forum to defend his honour??? In my eyes tire massively called out as the charlatan fan that I m evident you are…. For the rest… Enjoy conversing in Bayerns cavern You came on here to snipe at fans and not talk football. Well done. And you can only snipe at ‘our’ own team and then get defensive on criticism from your comments 👏🏼 big man, great support!
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Post by s7oke on Aug 7, 2022 1:14:28 GMT
I think there's a difference between fans criticising performances such as last week against Millwall, and fans wanting the manager out. The main posters on here pushing MON out is the same 20 names or so which have been criticising the manager at any given opportunity for the last 6 months, and trying to descend most threads into being about the manager. Totally - I’m really just responding to this to counter balance the negative bullshit that we’ve had from some ‘sort of suppose Stoke fans’ and thus makes them feel validated and have importance in my life So you counter balance the negative bullshit with negative bullshit aimed at other posters Makes lots of sense that does!
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Post by s7oke on Aug 7, 2022 1:20:22 GMT
Quite enlightening that this theead has just become about Bayern… Because Nayern stared to get involved… Once again… fair play to your narcissism and I’m sorry that this forum has to adhere to it as the main vocal outpost Are you attention seeking Seems you either have issues with letting things go because you cannot be wrong or are jealous about other posters attention
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 7, 2022 1:21:53 GMT
Can we just talk some sensible football without the polarised nonessential and judgemental view point of fooking Bayern for a change!!???🙏🏻🙏🏻😆 There is a reason he’s constantly chirping in! Insecurely fuck whit who needs validation…the other alternative to that is that we could actually start supporting some young hungry stoke grown players and a team team that might do something !!?!?!! You started a thread saying can we “ignore the doom mongers” and not give them airtime, and you’ve then spent the entire time since posting about one particular poster, whose attention you were quite obviously trying to get in the first place (everyone can see it mate) Seriously go to bed or something you’re having a nightmare
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