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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 4, 2022 13:43:21 GMT
Played there 5 times in his career...... 🤔 I was hoping he might be versatile in a Danny Higginbotham or Martins Indi way and be able to slot in at left back in we switch to a back four. Looks like the back three is here to stay for the foreseeable.
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Post by gawa on Aug 4, 2022 13:50:30 GMT
What are you yapping about? I think he's saying if we get Clarke &b Delap then the manager pretty much has as good & expensive a squad as he could have hoped for at the start of the window Gayle,Delap & Clarke wont be cheap, we must be absolutely maxed out still some areas in the squad that don't look right but which teams have the perfect squad? probably nobody in this league JC has referenced play offs just the the day Personally I read it more as a backhanded compliment which seems quite common on here these days. So rather than complimenting or giving positive feedback for good signings. Instead of a "Great signing, that's the right type of profile of player we need to push on" it's more of a "No excuses now" and adding a negative stigma. Simialar to some of the stuff which we're reading in the O'Neil Out thread today. 5 days ago we were the worst team in the league and at risk of relegation. Now it's a "every team in the league should best Blackpool". So again preparing for a potential good result or performance with negative comments at the ready. So in the event of a positive event, it can quickly be downplayed and used against the manager.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 4, 2022 13:55:04 GMT
Although the dreaded wing back system needs fucking off sharpish, at least having ball playing centre backs like Souttar and Clarke means we'd be able to move it through the pitch much better. Would be a great signing.
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Post by tejstokie on Aug 4, 2022 14:01:11 GMT
This is good. Hopefully comes off. Now onto Goalkeeper next.
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 4, 2022 14:08:04 GMT
🤔 I was hoping he might be versatile in a Danny Higginbotham or Martins Indi way and be able to slot in at left back in we switch to a back four. Looks like the back three is here to stay for the foreseeable. Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 4, 2022 14:16:32 GMT
Looks like the back three is here to stay for the foreseeable. Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap. I'd be ok with it if we signed a proper, flying RWB I think. That, an LCB and Delap and things would look much better, if a bit light on creativity still.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 4, 2022 14:18:00 GMT
That would be quality
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 4, 2022 14:19:59 GMT
A messy player plus cash deal for Tymon is about to begin With cucurella outward I can see It We can’t afford to lose Josh. The wing back system is already imbalanced at present and [Harry] Clarke is unknown (and thus far, unconvincing) territory. If we lose Josh as well then it doesn’t matter if we have 3 top CBS, the system will fall apart. Anyway, Cucurella was used more as the LCB in Brighton’s team, and I thought they were looking at Levi Colwill as a replacement for that role. Solly March or Leandro Trossard normally share the LWB role.
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 4, 2022 14:23:46 GMT
Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap. I'd be ok with it if we signed a proper, flying RWB I think. That, an LCB and Delap and things would look much better, if a bit light on creativity still. I agree but without 2 or 3 quality wing backs the system in crap.
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Post by 16quidachuck on Aug 4, 2022 14:32:22 GMT
With cucurella outward I can see It We can’t afford to lose Josh. The wing back system is already imbalanced at present and [Harry] Clarke is unknown (and thus far, unconvincing) territory. If we lose Josh as well then it doesn’t matter if we have 3 top CBS, the system will fall apart. Anyway, Cucurella was used more as the LCB in Brighton’s team, and I thought they were looking at Levi Colwill as a replacement for that role. Solly March or Leandro Trossard normally share the LWB role. Maybe selling Tymon would be a good thing as it would force him to change the formation
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 4, 2022 14:47:50 GMT
Doesn’t sound a decision is to be made imminently. I wonder what price Brighton would want for a permanent deal?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 4, 2022 14:55:40 GMT
Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap. I'd be ok with it if we signed a proper, flying RWB I think. That, an LCB and Delap and things would look much better, if a bit light on creativity still. Pretty much. I still don't like what I've heard MON come out with about not wanting his wingbacks getting caught up the pitch too early as I think that's exactly what he should want from them. The 3 CB's and a sitting midfielder should be able to deal with quick counter attacks. The WB's should be in a deeper position for more structured advances when the opponents have possession for longer.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 4, 2022 14:57:19 GMT
We can’t afford to lose Josh. The wing back system is already imbalanced at present and [Harry] Clarke is unknown (and thus far, unconvincing) territory. If we lose Josh as well then it doesn’t matter if we have 3 top CBS, the system will fall apart. Anyway, Cucurella was used more as the LCB in Brighton’s team, and I thought they were looking at Levi Colwill as a replacement for that role. Solly March or Leandro Trossard normally share the LWB role. Maybe selling Tymon would be a good thing as it would force him to change the formation Why would it he's signed an alternative on that side McCarron?
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Post by potterburt on Aug 4, 2022 15:05:28 GMT
Looks like the back three is here to stay for the foreseeable. Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap. It’s rather delusional wishful thinking that we could sell Tymon and buy 2 similar/alternative/better full backs. An equivalent Tymon would cost us… well… err… the cost of a Tymon. Get rid of one of our better players to instead have 2 very mediocre championship full backs?? No thanks.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 4, 2022 15:09:33 GMT
Werent were linked with him many moons ago? Another one thats come round in the end...
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 4, 2022 15:09:51 GMT
Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap. It’s rather delusional wishful thinking that we could sell Tymon and buy 2 similar/alternative/better full backs. An equivalent Tymon would cost us… well… err… the cost of a Tymon. Get rid of one of our better players to instead have 2 very mediocre championship full backs?? No thanks. Not sure why anyone would wish for it but it's a bridge we'll have to cross if/when we come to it. If he gets an offer from the prem the player would be mental not to want to go.
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 4, 2022 15:10:12 GMT
Werent were linked with him many moons ago? Another one thats come round in the end... Double swoop for Clarke and Carlton Cole?
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Post by buckoscfc on Aug 4, 2022 15:12:51 GMT
Would be great to see him come in the door...and inevitably turn shit!
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 4, 2022 15:12:54 GMT
Werent were linked with him many moons ago? Another one thats come round in the end... We were, i think we were almost there with him then Nath decided that Liam Lindsay was better and the rest they say is history
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Post by wherty on Aug 4, 2022 15:27:58 GMT
A lot is depending on our relationship with Brighton following the Sima catastrophe last season.
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Post by gawa on Aug 4, 2022 15:30:05 GMT
A lot is depending on our relationship with Brighton following the Sima catastrophe last season. Good point. Tbh I'm very surprised Brighton are even considering sending another player to stoke on loan. Wasn't it last season when Michael O'Neil had a big falling out with Ostigard and then refused to play him? (<- or is that another thing that fans with an agenda made up?)
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 4, 2022 15:31:43 GMT
A lot is depending on our relationship with Brighton following the Sima catastrophe last season. Tbf, injuries did him in with us which didn’t help at all.
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Post by werrington on Aug 4, 2022 15:46:30 GMT
Werent were linked with him many moons ago? Another one thats come round in the end... We were, i think we were almost there with him then Nath decided that Liam Lindsay was better and the rest they say is history He chose Brighton which is why we moved on to Lyndsey
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 4, 2022 15:48:13 GMT
A lot is depending on our relationship with Brighton following the Sima catastrophe last season. Good point. Tbh I'm very surprised Brighton are even considering sending another player to stoke on loan. Wasn't it last season when Michael O'Neil had a big falling out with Ostigard and then refused to play him? (<- or is that another thing that fans with an agenda made up?) The player claimed he thought he was playing OK (which he was) and was then dropped from the team, then the squad and the manager never spoke to him or offered any explanation. I don't think any of it is made up the chain of events is factual. Quite why a supposedly rational manager took those actions is left for us to debate. There has been some posts about chest thumping maybe it's a behavior that really gets under MON's skin like it did with a few posters on here. It was extremely odd espescially considering what he replaced him with (Chester) but I know you're ok with managers binning players off due to a personality issue/non footballing reasons.
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 4, 2022 15:48:47 GMT
Thats the only reason I want someone to buy Tymon. Use the money to buy 2 full backs n drop this back 5 crap. It’s rather delusional wishful thinking that we could sell Tymon and buy 2 similar/alternative/better full backs. An equivalent Tymon would cost us… well… err… the cost of a Tymon. Get rid of one of our better players to instead have 2 very mediocre championship full backs?? No thanks. Its not though. It we sold tymon it would be close to £10m. Could easily get 2 championship quality full backs for 4 or 5 mil each.
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 4, 2022 15:52:42 GMT
It’s rather delusional wishful thinking that we could sell Tymon and buy 2 similar/alternative/better full backs. An equivalent Tymon would cost us… well… err… the cost of a Tymon. Get rid of one of our better players to instead have 2 very mediocre championship full backs?? No thanks. Its not though. It we sold tymon it would be close to £10m. Could easily get 2 championship quality full backs for 4 or 5 mil each. We wouldn't get anywhere near that for Tymon n the gaffer certainly wouldn't get the whole lot to invest in the team🤷🏼♂️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2022 15:52:43 GMT
He's signed the players for the first one and we will get Delap for the second part. No excuses. And if delap doesn't sign there is room for excuses? I think he will sign.
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 4, 2022 15:54:21 GMT
Its not though. It we sold tymon it would be close to £10m. Could easily get 2 championship quality full backs for 4 or 5 mil each. We wouldn't get anywhere near that for Tymon n the gaffer certainly wouldn't get the whole lot to invest in the team🤷🏼♂️ We won't be selling him cheap if there is interest from the prem
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Post by werrington on Aug 4, 2022 15:54:46 GMT
It’s rather delusional wishful thinking that we could sell Tymon and buy 2 similar/alternative/better full backs. An equivalent Tymon would cost us… well… err… the cost of a Tymon. Get rid of one of our better players to instead have 2 very mediocre championship full backs?? No thanks. Its not though. It we sold tymon it would be close to £10m. Could easily get 2 championship quality full backs for 4 or 5 mil each. Who need paying We’ve got players who can play in those positions as to wether you rate them or not is a matter of opinion There’s no chance in the current climate and FFP that Stoke City will stockpile players in positions that are already covered
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Post by northernstokie on Aug 4, 2022 15:54:49 GMT
And if delap doesn't sign there is room for excuses? I think he will sign. That a guess or have you been told anything?
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