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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 23, 2022 13:57:54 GMT
The latest workforce to vote for strike action
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Post by Northy on Jun 23, 2022 14:04:33 GMT
cnuts have just had 2 years off Seriously, some of their senior management are awful, stuck in the 70's mentality.
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Post by flea79 on Jun 23, 2022 14:25:34 GMT
cnuts have just had 2 years off Seriously, some of their senior management are awful, stuck in the 70's mentality. you mean slapping the young office assistants bottoms and all that, them was the good old days!
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 23, 2022 14:30:35 GMT
I work for Openreach, the artist previously known as BT, or when I started GPO Telephones. We have already been balloted for industrial action, no pay rise for 3 years whiletop brass take home millions. Like many other key workers we all worked through covid too. So heres another strike on its way, last time we did was in 1987 and the biggest sufferers were the City.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 23, 2022 14:34:23 GMT
Bring it on, about time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 17:33:46 GMT
They need some hotter looking flight staff also. Emirates, Finnair, Thai Air, Virgin etc all have seriously do-able looking flight attendants. BA have rejects from Birds of a Feather. Should be part of their new recruitment campaign.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 17:35:30 GMT
They need some hotter looking flight staff also. Emirates, Finnair, Thai Air, Virgin etc all have seriously do-able looking flight attendants. BA have rejects from Birds of a Feather. Should be part of their new recruitment campaign. Yes I flew with BA last week from Heathrow, it was like the cast of Dinnerladies! Mind you the connecting flights I got with American Airlines was like being on the set of The Golden Girls! Disgraceful
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 17:38:22 GMT
They need some hotter looking flight staff also. Emirates, Finnair, Thai Air, Virgin etc all have seriously do-able looking flight attendants. BA have rejects from Birds of a Feather. Should be part of their new recruitment campaign. Yes I flew with BA last week from Heathrow, it was like the cast of Dinnerladies! Mind you the connecting flights I got with American Airlines was like being on the set of To the Manor Born! Disgraceful Last thing you want is your sponge pudding and hot towel being served to you by Janet St Porter dressed as Virgil Tracy. Go on strike and hit the Botox clinic while you're at it
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 18:20:17 GMT
Yes I flew with BA last week from Heathrow, it was like the cast of Dinnerladies! Mind you the connecting flights I got with American Airlines was like being on the set of To the Manor Born! Disgraceful Last thing you want is your sponge pudding and hot towel being served to you by Janet St Porter dressed as Virgil Tracy. Go on strike and hit the Botox clinic while you're at it Maybe theyâll go to a âWellness facilityâ similar to Cocoon
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 18:28:39 GMT
Last thing you want is your sponge pudding and hot towel being served to you by Janet St Porter dressed as Virgil Tracy. Go on strike and hit the Botox clinic while you're at it Maybe theyâll go to a âWellness facilityâ similar to Cocoon Last thing we need is Steve Guttenburg coming back again. Cocoon had a lot to answer for reviving him as a youngster.
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Post by stokiemac on Jun 23, 2022 18:37:45 GMT
Supposed to be flying BA in August to Florida so I'm torn because I hope they stick it up the top brass but don't want it to ruin my kids dream holiday đ
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 18:40:23 GMT
Supposed to be flying BA in August to Florida so I'm torn because I hope they stick it up the top brass but don't want it to ruin my kids dream holiday đ If youâve got any morals youâll take em to Rhylđ
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Post by stokiemac on Jun 23, 2022 18:42:03 GMT
Supposed to be flying BA in August to Florida so I'm torn because I hope they stick it up the top brass but don't want it to ruin my kids dream holiday đ If youâve got any morals youâll take em to Rhylđ I think Rhyls been on strike since the 90's
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Post by questionable on Jun 23, 2022 18:59:54 GMT
I work for Openreach, the artist previously known as BT, or when I started GPO Telephones. We have already been balloted for industrial action, no pay rise for 3 years whiletop brass take home millions. Like many other key workers we all worked through covid too. So heres another strike on its way, last time we did was in 1987 and the biggest sufferers were the City. I worked flat out throughout Covid and dealt directly with grieving families and it was tough believe me as lots of the deceased I knew indirectly, harrowing stories believe me. Luckily enough I got a small pay rise but with taxes/National Insurance increases Iâm actually worse off, then taken into effect everything has increased in price weâre all hell of a lot worse off.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 19:11:55 GMT
Inconsiderate look at me merchants jumping on the latest bandwagon
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 23, 2022 19:59:53 GMT
I have sympathies with those with families, who are struggling. But I don't want to go back to the nightmare days of the 70's when we had double figure inflation and the Union arguments were always along the lines of "the Transport workers got an 8% pay deal, so we want an 8% pay deal."
The lessons of History should be learnt. If inflation reaches new records because of global triggers that are out of our control, if workers get even high pay rises now, in 12 months they will claim to be struggling and back at the "negotiating table" for more. Nobody wins. One of the key controls of spiralling inflation is wage restraint. However well a particular case might be argued, or how much it is justified, you can't just have various interest groups holding their hands out for more cash. You have to at least have various productivity deals and restructering exercises to pay for the new added costs. Everybody unfortunately must make sacrifices. And yes I include the fat cat bosses who get paid more in two months than their workers each make in a year.
Sorry Badger, should this be on the "political thread"?
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 23, 2022 20:38:51 GMT
Inconsiderate look at me merchants jumping on the latest bandwagon You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 23, 2022 20:43:15 GMT
Inconsiderate look at me merchants jumping on the latest bandwagon You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so. Some people think you should just take whatever is thrown at you on the chin, and if you do need to picket then do it somewhere quiet where literally no one is affected (even though that completely defeats the object). Good luck to you and your colleaguesâŚâŚ.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 23, 2022 20:47:01 GMT
I'm not knocking anyone's opinion. I do think it's convenient that every group suddenly claims to be a "special case". I've heard it all before.
By the Way my political thread reference was made with regard to Badgers "Political Threads" thread. Its not easy to classify which threads or posts might be political in tone or nature, or just otherwise perhaps thinking aloud.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 20:51:39 GMT
Inconsiderate look at me merchants jumping on the latest bandwagon You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so. Good to hear someone in the thick of it! And I have a certain amount of sympathy for the people who have been striving for this for a long time. However, I donât share that view, once again THE MEDIA (luckily for you guys) has gone full on with this strike action and have basically encouraged people to stop the world. I didnât really work through Covid through no fault of my own, in fact I was made redundant after 24 years service. The industry has only recently started picking up, itâs been hell for nearly two years and Iâve accepted that itâs a necessity to tighten the belt for the shortish term. What winds me up is the rail companies and now the airlines, soon to be followed by many others spying a chance to hang on the coat tails and screw the country down until itâs at a standstill. And who wins really? Not many, but many will be affected by the ignorant actions of the strikers.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 23, 2022 20:57:00 GMT
Inconsiderate look at me merchants jumping on the latest bandwagon You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so. Despite my reservations about the sudden appetite for industrial actions, and the justifications for them, I do listen to the arguments. I am tempted to say that some of my best friends are telecommunication workers or used to be, as I knew quite a lot, both "holes and poles" workers and exchange engineers, many of whom were at the "GPO" training college at Yarnfield.
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Post by 4doorsaloon on Jun 23, 2022 21:20:51 GMT
Inconsiderate look at me merchants jumping on the latest bandwagon You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so. Handsome final salary pension to come though?
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 23, 2022 21:27:20 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so. Handsome final salary pension to come though? Partly, all our pensions were restructured 10 years ago or more.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 24, 2022 12:33:03 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion if thats aimed at my post. I will give you a fact, our preparation for a ballot by the CWU has been going on for months, there are many reasons aside of pay for their action. No bandwagon has been jumped on by the CWU, we have gone under the radar yes, until today when the Mirror did a spread. Our top boss Phllip Jansen, (or now he is known as foodbank Phil) takes home 80 times more than our average worker and yes had the brass neck to open a foodbank in one of our BT call centres. 44 years I have worked for this company and cannot believe how far our engineers and other staff have fell out of line with other like for like pay structures in the industry. The results of the ballot for action will be announced next week, by law more than 50% of members have to be in favour, I think we will piss it and rightly so. Handsome final salary pension to come though? A lot of final salary pensions (if not all) have a limit on the percentage they can be increased by year on year, I doubt those limits are even close to the inflation rates we're seeing now and are likely to continue to see well into the future. So probably nowhere near as 'handsome' as they were recently perceived to be.
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Post by rivival on Jun 25, 2022 2:24:15 GMT
Supposed to be flying BA in August to Florida so I'm torn because I hope they stick it up the top brass but don't want it to ruin my kids dream holiday đ If youâve got any morals youâll take em to Rhylđ Do BA fly to Rhyl?
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Post by mutters on Jun 25, 2022 14:15:52 GMT
Handsome final salary pension to come though? A lot of final salary pensions (if not all) have a limit on the percentage they can be increased by year on year, I doubt those limits are even close to the inflation rates we're seeing now and are likely to continue to see well into the future. So probably nowhere near as 'handsome' as they were recently perceived to be. How many final salary schemes are left? Irrespective of the increases, how lucky to have such a pension, most of us can only dream of such a pension. I was talking to someone in the education sector a couple of weeks ago, and they were spoke in a dismayed tone about the pension scheme with a 9% contribution. When I asked if that was the total contribution, the reply, was that the 9% was the employee's contribution. As a result, I was intrigued by this and asked how much the employer contribution was. 20% was the response. How many people have got that level of pension contribution? Whilst the person from BT above may have a point, and the pension is only one aspect of the benefits they will have being employed by BT (as an example), railway staff would be another, a lot of people are not in as lucky a position, especially when compared to people just commencing in employment now or recently started
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Post by elystokie on Jun 25, 2022 15:47:00 GMT
A lot of final salary pensions (if not all) have a limit on the percentage they can be increased by year on year, I doubt those limits are even close to the inflation rates we're seeing now and are likely to continue to see well into the future. So probably nowhere near as 'handsome' as they were recently perceived to be. How many final salary schemes are left? Irrespective of the increases, how lucky to have such a pension, most of us can only dream of such a pension. I was talking to someone in the education sector a couple of weeks ago, and they were spoke in a dismayed tone about the pension scheme with a 9% contribution. When I asked if that was the total contribution, the reply, was that the 9% was the employee's contribution. As a result, I was intrigued by this and asked how much the employer contribution was. 20% was the response. How many people have got that level of pension contribution? Whilst the person from BT above may have a point, and the pension is only one aspect of the benefits they will have being employed by BT (as an example), railway staff would be another, a lot of people are not in as lucky a position, especially when compared to people just commencing in employment now or recently started I really have no idea how many there are left, I've worked for companies that have offered both. It's a fair point tho and I don't know what contribution big private companies make, GE was 15% when I worked for them employer contribution wise. It won't take too many years of 11% inflation to erode them, most are capped between 2.5 and 3.5% increase per annum.
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Post by superjw on Jun 25, 2022 21:04:21 GMT
How many final salary schemes are left? Irrespective of the increases, how lucky to have such a pension, most of us can only dream of such a pension. I was talking to someone in the education sector a couple of weeks ago, and they were spoke in a dismayed tone about the pension scheme with a 9% contribution. When I asked if that was the total contribution, the reply, was that the 9% was the employee's contribution. As a result, I was intrigued by this and asked how much the employer contribution was. 20% was the response. How many people have got that level of pension contribution? Whilst the person from BT above may have a point, and the pension is only one aspect of the benefits they will have being employed by BT (as an example), railway staff would be another, a lot of people are not in as lucky a position, especially when compared to people just commencing in employment now or recently started I really have no idea how many there are left, I've worked for companies that have offered both. It's a fair point tho and I don't know what contribution big private companies make, GE was 15% when I worked for them employer contribution wise. It won't take too many years of 11% inflation to erode them, most are capped between 2.5 and 3.5% increase per annum. My company pension scheme tops out at a 10% employer contribution. But employees need to contribute 5% in return. That's the average with a lot of companies these days. I have the ability to increase my pension, but it's only my own contributions I can raise at this point
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Post by Northy on Jun 25, 2022 21:41:22 GMT
They need some hotter looking flight staff also. Emirates, Finnair, Thai Air, Virgin etc all have seriously do-able looking flight attendants. BA have rejects from Birds of a Feather. Should be part of their new recruitment campaign. Yes I flew with BA last week from Heathrow, it was like the cast of Dinnerladies! Mind you the connecting flights I got with American Airlines was like being on the set of The Golden Girls! Disgraceful You actually got somewhere with AA ?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 25, 2022 21:42:28 GMT
Yes I flew with BA last week from Heathrow, it was like the cast of Dinnerladies! Mind you the connecting flights I got with American Airlines was like being on the set of The Golden Girls! Disgraceful You actually got somewhere with AA ? Just about mate!
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