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Post by gaznandi on Jun 18, 2022 10:58:40 GMT
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 18, 2022 11:22:36 GMT
An unsung legend of the club. Possibly the buy of the century.
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Post by march4 on Jun 18, 2022 12:09:59 GMT
Fantastic player for SCFC
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Post by werrington on Jun 18, 2022 12:13:49 GMT
An unsung legend of the club. Possibly the buy of the century. Sadly he was pilloried and slaughtered on here by many many posters
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 18, 2022 12:17:42 GMT
An unsung legend of the club. Possibly the buy of the century. Sadly he was pilloried and slaughtered on here by many many posters It's Nzonzi syndrome mate. Dogs abuse when they play for us but the moment they leave that metamorphosise and it's as if we had Cruyff playing for us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 12:19:23 GMT
He was anything but consistent imo.
He’d have really good seasons and really bad seasons. Pulis used to try and replace him for good reason. The issue was the crap he bought to replace him like Whitehead.
A good player for us overall but we kept him for a bit too long and failed miserably replacing him to this day really. And it shouldn’t have been hard to do that.
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Post by werrington on Jun 18, 2022 12:25:36 GMT
He was anything but consistent imo. He’d have really good seasons and really bad seasons. Pulis used to try and replace him for good reason. The issue was the crap he bought to replace him like Whitehead. A good player for us overall but we kept him for a bit too long and failed miserably replacing him to this day really. And it shouldn’t have been hard to do that. He excelled under Hughes when the shackles were finally taken off
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 12:28:49 GMT
An unsung legend of the club. Possibly the buy of the century. Sadly he was pilloried and slaughtered on here by many many posters We only had the ball for about 30% of game time in the prem years. Whelan was the most important player for us for the other 70% of games. Some posters only appreciate the flair players and just don't see it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 12:31:56 GMT
He was anything but consistent imo. He’d have really good seasons and really bad seasons. Pulis used to try and replace him for good reason. The issue was the crap he bought to replace him like Whitehead. A good player for us overall but we kept him for a bit too long and failed miserably replacing him to this day really. And it shouldn’t have been hard to do that. He excelled under Hughes when the shackles were finally taken off He still had his ups and downs and at the end was as much a part of the problem as anyone.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 18, 2022 12:45:13 GMT
He was anything but consistent imo. He’d have really good seasons and really bad seasons. Pulis used to try and replace him for good reason. The issue was the crap he bought to replace him like Whitehead. A good player for us overall but we kept him for a bit too long and failed miserably replacing him to this day really. And it shouldn’t have been hard to do that. I saw it more as Whelan raising his game when attempted replacements came in. Far from our 'buy of the century' but that's probably only because of Shawcross and Fuller. Whitehead wasn't all that bad either. For £3.5m(?), a decent but not spectacular buy overall.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 12:47:56 GMT
He was anything but consistent imo. He’d have really good seasons and really bad seasons. Pulis used to try and replace him for good reason. The issue was the crap he bought to replace him like Whitehead. A good player for us overall but we kept him for a bit too long and failed miserably replacing him to this day really. And it shouldn’t have been hard to do that. I saw it more as Whelan raising his game when attempted replacements came in. Far from our 'buy of the century' but that's probably only because of Shawcross and Fuller. Whitehead wasn't all that bad either. For £3.5m(?), a decent but not spectacular buy overall. He would raise his game but up from a low level. That’s why I don’t think he was consistent. As for Whitehead he was God awful and not fit to lace Whelan’s boots. 5m was like 10m now. Way too much for such a limited player. Give me Delap over the pair of them.
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 18, 2022 12:50:12 GMT
I saw it more as Whelan raising his game when attempted replacements came in. Far from our 'buy of the century' but that's probably only because of Shawcross and Fuller. Whitehead wasn't all that bad either. For £3.5m(?), a decent but not spectacular buy overall. He would raise his game but up from a low level. That’s why I don’t think he was consistent. As for Whitehead he was God awful and not fit to lace Whelan’s boots. 5m was like 10m now. Way too much for such a limited player. Give me Delap over the pair of them. Whelan says in the piece (if anyone's read it) that he felt sorry for Delap as he was a good player and just became known for a throw in.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 18, 2022 12:56:48 GMT
He excelled under Hughes when the shackles were finally taken off He still had his ups and downs and at the end was as much a part of the problem as anyone. As much a part of the problem as Jesé? As Imbula? As Etebo? No. Of course he wasn’t. Nonsense.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 12:57:24 GMT
He would raise his game but up from a low level. That’s why I don’t think he was consistent. As for Whitehead he was God awful and not fit to lace Whelan’s boots. 5m was like 10m now. Way too much for such a limited player. Give me Delap over the pair of them. Whelan says in the piece (if anyone's read it) that he felt sorry for Delap as he was a good player and just became known for a throw in. I don’t think we’ve had anyone better in the last 20 years at least for reading the game than Delap. Diao maybe in his good seasons. Whelan a better footballer than either though. Would love a player like any of them 3 now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 12:58:47 GMT
He still had his ups and downs and at the end was as much a part of the problem as anyone. As much a part of the problem as Jesé? As Imbula? As Etebo? No. Of course he wasn’t. Nonsense. He had gone by then correctly so too. But in that season before yes. The worst performance in the PL I saw had him, Bardsley, Crouch et al playing and none of the named above.
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Post by anchorman on Jun 18, 2022 13:24:23 GMT
Absolute Legend & he is spot on with his opinion on our downfall & ultimate relegation.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 18, 2022 13:30:21 GMT
He was anything but consistent imo. He’d have really good seasons and really bad seasons. Pulis used to try and replace him for good reason. The issue was the crap he bought to replace him like Whitehead. A good player for us overall but we kept him for a bit too long and failed miserably replacing him to this day really. And it shouldn’t have been hard to do that. I saw it more as Whelan raising his game when attempted replacements came in. Far from our 'buy of the century' but that's probably only because of Shawcross and Fuller. Whitehead wasn't all that bad either. For £3.5m(?), a decent but not spectacular buy overall. £3.5m (possibly more than that as it was £5m with clauses) was a lot of money for us at the time for a jobbing midfielder who at no stage was part of our best XI. Whelan had ups and downs as Bayern said but our best spells of football under TP came with him in the side and he was excellent in the first few good Hughes seasons. Shame that it sounds like we weren’t up front about moving him on but selling him and Walters when we did was 100% the right move. We just did an abysmal job replacing them.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 18, 2022 13:33:52 GMT
He still had his ups and downs and at the end was as much a part of the problem as anyone. As much a part of the problem as Jesé? As Imbula? As Etebo? No. Of course he wasn’t. Nonsense. Bit harsh to blame Etebo given he hadn’t signed for the club at that point… Whelan had gone at the top level. He was part of the reason why teams were walking through us and we were regularly getting dicked in the season and a half before he left. That we thought Darren Fletcher was an acceptable replacement is bizarre though and an indictment of Hughes.
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Post by thestatusquo on Jun 18, 2022 13:41:41 GMT
Positionally arguably one of the best we’ve ever had
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jun 18, 2022 13:56:02 GMT
The reason Joe Allen looks so expensive for what his performances offer.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 18, 2022 14:05:12 GMT
"I had another year left on my contract but I wasn't going to hang around where I'm not wanted. The only thing that disappointed me was nobody really spoke to me from the club. If someone had said beforehand 'this is the way we're going' then I would have shook their hand and that would have been that"
Disgraceful treatment of a club legend and epitomises everything that was going wrong at the club at that time.
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Post by chad on Jun 18, 2022 14:51:40 GMT
An unsung legend of the club. Possibly the buy of the century. No possibly about it. In terms of value for money signing Glen tops everything
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Post by Goonie on Jun 18, 2022 14:59:08 GMT
Still waiting on the Whelan upgrade 😲☹️
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 18, 2022 16:33:32 GMT
Still under-appreciated on here by a few by the looks of it.
No coincidence that he's enjoyed four promotions for different teams during an excellent career.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 16:41:45 GMT
As much a part of the problem as Jesé? As Imbula? As Etebo? No. Of course he wasn’t. Nonsense. Bit harsh to blame Etebo given he hadn’t signed for the club at that point… Whelan had gone at the top level. He was part of the reason why teams were walking through us and we were regularly getting dicked in the season and a half before he left. That we thought Darren Fletcher was an acceptable replacement is bizarre though and an indictment of Hughes. I forgot about Darren Fletcher: happy days.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 18, 2022 20:44:34 GMT
When an was really good at two things: 1) sensing danger, 2) aerial interceptions given his size.
He was pretty meh at much of the rest and he always looked much better alongside someone who wasn’t as good defensively but could actually pass a ball.
It’s a team game and Whelan was a great team player. If we could get a similar style of player now alongside Baker and Powell, we’d be laughing.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 19, 2022 4:54:41 GMT
He wasn't Mr Consistent. He was Mr Whelan.
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Post by dastokie on Jun 19, 2022 6:38:35 GMT
10 times the player compared to the Welsh Pirlo.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 19, 2022 8:21:59 GMT
I saw it more as Whelan raising his game when attempted replacements came in. Far from our 'buy of the century' but that's probably only because of Shawcross and Fuller. Whitehead wasn't all that bad either. For £3.5m(?), a decent but not spectacular buy overall. £3.5m (possibly more than that as it was £5m with clauses) was a lot of money for us at the time for a jobbing midfielder who at no stage was part of our best XI. Whelan had ups and downs as Bayern said but our best spells of football under TP came with him in the side and he was excellent in the first few good Hughes seasons. Shame that it sounds like we weren’t up front about moving him on but selling him and Walters when we did was 100% the right move. We just did an abysmal job replacing them. Fair comments although worth mentioning we sold Olofinjana for £3m in the same window.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 19, 2022 9:10:36 GMT
£3.5m (possibly more than that as it was £5m with clauses) was a lot of money for us at the time for a jobbing midfielder who at no stage was part of our best XI. Whelan had ups and downs as Bayern said but our best spells of football under TP came with him in the side and he was excellent in the first few good Hughes seasons. Shame that it sounds like we weren’t up front about moving him on but selling him and Walters when we did was 100% the right move. We just did an abysmal job replacing them. Fair comments although worth mentioning we sold Olofinjana for £3m in the same window. He was definitely an upgrade on him at least, awful player.
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