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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 18, 2022 11:21:28 GMT
Could someone tell me if he has signed yet, as I can’t see any mention of Harry Clarke on the Harry Clarke thread The thread title will change when he has, as it always does.
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jun 18, 2022 11:25:25 GMT
Could someone tell me if he has signed yet, as I can’t see any mention of Harry Clarke on the Harry Clarke thread The thread title will change when he has, as it always does. I know that, it was sarcasm, every other thread on here seems to be taken over , and you have to scroll through pages to have a clue what is going on.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 18, 2022 11:37:50 GMT
But that’s not what you just said. You just said you thought the latter, that 40+ league 1 games is better for development. Ah fuck I’ve read it again and it’s not the latter 😂😂what a twat sorry. Forrester should be staying here!! Got me worried that I was reading it wrong then 😂
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 18, 2022 11:39:03 GMT
The thread title will change when he has, as it always does. I know that, it was sarcasm, every other thread on here seems to be taken over , and you have to scroll through pages to have a clue what is going on. Yep. That’s messageboards for you.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2022 11:41:46 GMT
I think for Forrester the latter as he’s ready for it. I’m not sure re Taylor. I can see why we would send him on loan for now. But I still think as a like for like back up to Souttar we couldn’t get anyone better. He’s close to a clone as you can get and better at the same age. I think Taylor is better Forrester If both are going out on loan might be better if they went to the same team, form a partnership
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 11:46:50 GMT
I think for Forrester the latter as he’s ready for it. I’m not sure re Taylor. I can see why we would send him on loan for now. But I still think as a like for like back up to Souttar we couldn’t get anyone better. He’s close to a clone as you can get and better at the same age. I think Taylor is better Forrester I don’t at the minute but I think he could be. Taylor when I’ve watched him for Brizzle drifts out of position too much for me but I think he’s better in the air and a better passer. Both should be aiming for the PL in their career.
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Post by onefatcopper on Jun 18, 2022 14:27:59 GMT
Manchester City scour the World collecting young footballers like their Arab owners collect the cream of the equine world for their stables, BUT for them it does pay, I may be wrong but I’m sure that they generated more transfer income from the sales of youngsters who may have played the odd cup match or as a unused substitute and even players that had never got near to the first team than any club in Europe generated through the sales of first team regulars and youngsters. I think that this is one of the reasons plus their investment into the East Manchester economy that they skirt the FFP rules, they buy cheap give a world class football education then sell on for millions. They don’t or didn’t skirt ffp they breached it numerous times and got financial penalties. The authorities tried a sporting penalty but Man City we’re prepared to take it all the way and uefa bottled it. These regs are locking in the status quo unless they’re changed in a way that allows aspiration and mobility they’ve got to be challenged. But how do you challenge a youngster from Africa or the backstreets of a South American country of the promise of fame and fortune, you can’t ! The lunatics have taken over the asylum and are not afraid of the authorities because they sponsor most of their competitions, Emirates Airlines, Saudi Air etc, we are now going to see the virtual halt in mid season to most of the major soccer leagues just because a Arab state wants to showcase itself to the world ? The exploitation of youngsters will continue until the corruption at the highest level of the game is wiped out once and for all, and or the Arab, Asian and now American owners become bored with their latest playthings, the bubble has too burst.
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 19, 2022 8:11:31 GMT
www.hibs.net/showthread.php?357007-Summer-2022-23-transfer-thread/page200-I had hoped he was going to be playing right side of a central 3. Not surprised he’s getting interest elsewhere though, thought he was excellent. Can see him going on to big things in the future. -Gutted about Harry Clarke but felt it was inevitable especially when Michael O’Neil came to watch us play and left just after he was subbed. A real top player at this level and someone I think will go far down south. -Knew it was going to happen after arsenal included the same clause as they did with RC. He was very good, probably our best player whilst available but injured for the majority of his time here. Still gutted he’s away so soon. Seems to have been shunted around during his time at Hibs - actually started as a LWB, then a few as RWB, and even played a few games as a right attacking midfielder. Good to see he’s versatile.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 19, 2022 8:15:07 GMT
www.hibs.net/showthread.php?357007-Summer-2022-23-transfer-thread/page200-I had hoped he was going to be playing right side of a central 3. Not surprised he’s getting interest elsewhere though, thought he was excellent. Can see him going on to big things in the future. -Gutted about Harry Clarke but felt it was inevitable especially when Michael O’Neil came to watch us play and left just after he was subbed. A real top player at this level and someone I think will go far down south. -Knew it was going to happen after arsenal included the same clause as they did with RC. He was very good, probably our best player whilst available but injured for the majority of his time here. Still gutted he’s away so soon. Seems to have been shunted around during his time at Hibs - actually started as a LWB, then a few as RWB, and even played a few games as a right attacking midfielder. Good to see he’s versatile. Must be a decent footballer to cover all these positions, promising!
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Post by tachyon on Jun 19, 2022 9:34:30 GMT
Fairly diverse roles with Arsenal U23, Oldham (18th L2, relegated next season) & Ross County & Hibs.
Played a third of games as the centre right of a 4. (liked to play a long ball)
The rest of his starts equally split between centre left of a 4, right of a 3, right back in a 4 and as a wingback (twice as often on the right).
Career progression has been centre (L/R) of a 4, right of a 3, RB of a 4 and finally WB.
So Arsenal's current preference would seem to see him as a WB (therefore right WB at Stoke).
From the data he appears to be well able to take a throw in.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jun 19, 2022 9:36:18 GMT
Fairly diverse roles with Arsenal U23, Oldham (18th L2, relegated next season) & Ross County & Hibs. Played a third of games as the centre right of a 4. (liked to play a long ball) The rest of his starts equally split between centre left of a 4, right of a 3, right back in a 4 and as a wingback (twice as often on the right). Career progression has been centre (L/R) of a 4, right of a 3, RB of a 4 and finally WB. So Arsenal's current preference would seem to see him as a WB (therefore right WB at Stoke). From the data he appears to be well able to take a throw in. Thank you for the summary - looks like a good plan then, we certainly need something different than the departed Smith or the resident Duhaney
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Post by TinkerT on Jun 19, 2022 11:43:09 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 11:58:53 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. I don't think anyone had said anything of the kind. Just that he's young and a good prospect, large difference. Hibs are far better than our lower leagues, not that it matters. Fuller played for Hearts, what's your point?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 19, 2022 13:07:28 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. I liked Smith. He had a good relationship with Powell at the beginning of last season. I think it was his assists that got 4 of Powell’s early goals. He was probably on a fair wedge though and he wasn’t one of the better right backs in the league. Happy enough now to try someone else, but I think we should all recognize that a player who at 21 is only now getting a (potential) shot at a mid table Championship team, is unlikely to be head and shoulders above what we had before.
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Post by kerouac on Jun 19, 2022 13:16:19 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. Should have kept Smith..?????? I’d rather risk a “wild card” than have another season of that plodder….I personally thought he was a totally one dimensional footballer,couldn’t beat a man,far too slow but did,occasionally,put in a decent cross.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jun 19, 2022 13:19:16 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. Should have kept Smith..?????? I’d rather risk a “wild card” than have another season of that plodder….I personally thought he was a totally one dimensional footballer,couldn’t beat a man,far too slow but did,occasionally,put in a decent cross. I'd pay ten million for a player that can take a quick throw-in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 13:58:28 GMT
At least this bloke seems to have some pace and power. Having started as a CB he should be decent defensively too.
His biggest plus for me though is he isn't Tommy 'Safety First' Smith.
After some of the shit players like Chester, Allen, Brown and many more get on here I can't believe Smith got off so lightly. Probably because he didn't make many mistake due to his risk aversion. He killed any momentum stone dead time after time with his stop dead and pass back or inside shite.
Tymon isn't perfect but at least he tries to make things happen. Smith had to be given the ball on a plate to cross which was his only decent asset.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 14:03:32 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. Should have kept Smith..?????? I’d rather risk a “wild card” than have another season of that plodder….I personally thought he was a totally one dimensional footballer,couldn’t beat a man,far too slow but did,occasionally,put in a decent cross. I agree. I like him as a bloke, offered very little to us though.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 19, 2022 14:04:48 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. Should have kept Smith..?????? I’d rather risk a “wild card” than have another season of that plodder….I personally thought he was a totally one dimensional footballer,couldn’t beat a man,far too slow but did,occasionally,put in a decent cross. ...and in addition couldn't defend the back post!
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 20, 2022 14:04:14 GMT
Signed.
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Post by This is the year on Jun 20, 2022 14:05:07 GMT
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Post by banksy1art on Jun 20, 2022 14:06:17 GMT
😍😍😍
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 20, 2022 14:13:04 GMT
Welcome to both of you👍🤣
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 20, 2022 14:16:20 GMT
Fu*k me bayern got something right!
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jun 20, 2022 14:19:07 GMT
That is two units so far
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 20, 2022 14:19:12 GMT
Why are people banging on like this blokes the Holy grail of right backs? He's played for oldham and Ross County who are both worse than vale, then hibs who are on par with vale, yet people are going on like he's going walk straight into out right back or wing back slot and hit the ground running. He's going be a massive gamble. We should have kept smith. Apart from being expensive and shite, I wholeheartedly agree with you about Smith.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 20, 2022 14:24:00 GMT
What I don't understand is why are most going potty over this guy but seem dead against giving our own a go such as Forester, whats the difference?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 20, 2022 14:31:31 GMT
Bayern is the new Davesviews And Clarke the new John Halls? Harry, Hoefkens and Halls could be our Triple H of right-backs.
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Post by walrus on Jun 20, 2022 14:35:37 GMT
What I don't understand is why are most going potty over this guy but seem dead against giving our own a go such as Forester, whats the difference? Most people on here would like to see Forester and/or Taylor integrated properly into the first team squad this season.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 20, 2022 14:35:38 GMT
What I don't understand is why are most going potty over this guy but seem dead against giving our own a go such as Forester, whats the difference? One difference is experience. Clarke has over 60 first team appearances in the English and Scottish Leagues (not too bad for a 21 year old) so he has quite possibly got an advantage over our Academy products in that respect. A decent season in a lower league for Forrester and he will possibly be better equipped to force his way into the first team squad. It is easy to underestimate the difference a reasonable spell in lower league football makes to a player. I remember seeing Souttar play at Morecambe (Checkatrade trophy?) for us a few years ago. You could tell he had potential but he was far from ready for regular games for the first team - and I was not the only Stokie who felt that - indeed some thought he would not make the grade for Stoke. Seeing him play for us after a couple of seasons at Fleetwood was like chalk and cheese.
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