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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 15, 2022 20:27:54 GMT
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Post by Davef on Jun 15, 2022 22:07:11 GMT
Umbro are Burnley's kit manufacturer so they can issue an exact replica right now. Stoke would infringe copyright if they attempted it and would probably be in breach of contract with Macron or any future kit manufacturer, Umbro aside of course.
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Post by callas12 on Jun 15, 2022 22:13:02 GMT
Attachment DeletedScoredraw have done an Umbro Villa remake with the Trademark diamonds down the sleeves. Villa have just departed from Kappa & signed up to Castore. Obviously a way round kit manufacturer contracts somewhere along the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 7:52:29 GMT
Hummel have done the same with some old Spurs kits, but they're sponsored by Nike.
They're even sold on their official website.
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Post by Davef on Jun 16, 2022 9:06:39 GMT
Fair enough. We obviously did the retro shirts off our own back though so wouldn't have been able to reproduce the tops without Umbro's permission to use the diamonds.
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Post by callas12 on Jun 16, 2022 9:56:51 GMT
Fair enough. We obviously did the retro shirts off our own back though so wouldn't have been able to reproduce the tops without Umbro's permission to use the diamonds. Guessing it comes down to costs & the finer details of kit manufacturer contracts. Although you'd of thought it would of been in Umbro's interests to have their branding splashed around on former Umbro kitted clubs, some manufacturers may not approve. Our remaked retro shirts were good but to have had the Umbro branding would have been an awesome job. Umbro are a strange one, they seemed to disappear for abit but over the passed few seasons have made a huge comeback again. Sure I recall they were linked in or swallowed up by Nike for a time, which would make some sense in how all the old England retro Umbro shirts have been released fine despite Nike producing the main kits. Although none of this remakes have the actual Umbro badge on them despite everything else being almost identical. |
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Post by werrington on Jun 16, 2022 10:28:35 GMT
Umbro,Bukta, admiral were all the names back in the 70s and early 80s
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 16, 2022 10:34:01 GMT
Umbro,Bukta, admiral were all the names back in the 70s and early 80s Used to have a thing about Bukta being shit. Probably because at one stage they did Vale's shirts |
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 16, 2022 10:39:55 GMT
Umbro,Bukta, admiral were all the names back in the 70s and early 80s Used to have a thing about Bukta being shit. Probably because at one stage they did Vale's shirts Not really sue who’s doing the Fail kit at present but, having watched their games at the end of the season, I was shocked at how awful it looked. |
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Post by callas12 on Jun 16, 2022 10:40:28 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 16, 2022 10:51:03 GMT
Fair enough. We obviously did the retro shirts off our own back though so wouldn't have been able to reproduce the tops without Umbro's permission to use the diamonds. Guessing it comes down to costs & the finer details of kit manufacturer contracts. Although you'd of thought it would of been in Umbro's interests to have their branding splashed around on former Umbro kitted clubs, some manufacturers may not approve. Our remaked retro shirts were good but to have had the Umbro branding would have been an awesome job. Umbro are a strange one, they seemed to disappear for abit but over the passed few seasons have made a huge comeback again. Sure I recall they were linked in or swallowed up by Nike for a time, which would make some sense in how all the old England retro Umbro shirts have been released fine despite Nike producing the main kits. Although none of this remakes have the actual Umbro badge on them despite everything else being almost identical. Nike brought them out and started pushing the brand again, always brought Umbro football boots when they were black they were great. |
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Post by kustokie on Jun 16, 2022 12:38:07 GMT
Umbro are Burnley's kit manufacturer so they can issue an exact replica right now. Stoke would infringe copyright if they attempted it and would probably be in breach of contract with Macron or any future kit manufacturer, Umbro aside of course. I don’t believe you can protect an object with a copyright which applies to the written bodies of work. A trademark covers names, logos etc. |
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 17, 2022 23:51:49 GMT
Used to have a thing about Bukta being shit. Probably because at one stage they did Vale's shirts Not really sue who’s doing the Fail kit at present but, having watched their games at the end of the season, I was shocked at how awful it looked. Looked to me like they'd run into a chequered shirt hanging from a clothesline at neck height. During the annual "Running of the Bullsh*t" festival. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Jun 18, 2022 13:51:58 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Blasphemy ! I suggest that you take a look at a photo of the worlds, no the universes greatest midfielder Alan Hudson and what adorns his magical feet GOLA with the orange/gold stripes. I had a pair of Gola boots with lime green/yellow stripes, six metal studs and they were absolutely amazing, better than Adidas Muellers or Puma Pele’ I remember George Bests own brand boots and the Alan Ball white boots, but the absolute worst boots were the brainchild of sadist child hater, he patented a idea that the front studs were on a rota so that you could turn quicker to follow play! Which was great on a dry pitch but a literal ankle breaker when you came up against mud, the rotating studs would stick in position whilst the rest of your body had rotated the opposite direction 😦 |
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Post by callas12 on Jun 18, 2022 17:10:51 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Blasphemy ! I suggest that you take a look at a photo of the worlds, no the universes greatest midfielder Alan Hudson and what adorns his magical feet GOLA with the orange/gold stripes. I had a pair of Gola boots with lime green/yellow stripes, six metal studs and they were absolutely amazing, better than Adidas Muellers or Puma Pele’ I remember George Bests own brand boots and the Alan Ball white boots, but the absolute worst boots were the brainchild of sadist child hater, he patented a idea that the front studs were on a rota so that you could turn quicker to follow play! Which was great on a dry pitch but a literal ankle breaker when you came up against mud, the rotating studs would stick in position whilst the rest of your body had rotated the opposite direction 😦 Lol.. great story. It's strange how makes & designer labels come & go over time.. Was late 80's I started playing footy properly and I'd of been ripped at school and for my team wearing Gola boots. I wore Hi-Tec boots early on and that was bad enough amongst my Nike and Adidas boot wearing mates! Brand snobbery was definitely a thing even back then! But yeah as you say during the 70's and early 80's Gola were the go to brand. I remember being the butt of jokes when I used to wear my Stoke Hi-Tec tracksuit in the late 80's and Hi-Tec wasn't deemed fashionable either! I didn't care as was always proud to wear my Stoke Merch.. Although sadly that Stoke tracksuit oddly never had thr Stoke badge on 🤨, was one Mick Mills used to wear. Le-Coq sportif and Admiral were big kit suppliers in the 70's & 80's and they both faded away, resurfacing every now and again with random clubs. Umbro seemed to dominate alot of my early football following, think most clubs had kits made by Umbro in the early-mid 80's. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 17:59:41 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them)  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 18:03:23 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) I had Patrick boots. I remember Kevin Keegan giving Noel Edmonds a free pair live on Swap Shop....good advertising. Gola trainers are quite nice these days. |
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Post by callas12 on Jun 18, 2022 18:17:52 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) Yep know that feeling, Think that's why I ended up with Hi Tec Boots! My mum & dad must of had a special deal with Hi Tec coz I used to parade around in Hi Tec Silver Shadows when my mates were all Nike this, Nike that 😒.. I also remember wearing Fred Perry polo shirts as my games top at school aswell and always thinking that was a cheap make! Always makes me 😃 when I walk passed a Fred Perry designer shop now and see their Polo shirts RRP'n for easily £50+ .. |
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Post by somethinglikeant on Jun 18, 2022 18:29:02 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 18, 2022 18:43:09 GMT
This is good stuff. Want to go down there one day. Anyone ever been? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 18, 2022 18:51:17 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) I had Puma King, Adidas World Cup, and Lotto Gullit but the best weirdly were a pair of Converse! Tried Cica Blades, they were the worst! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 20:30:50 GMT
Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) I had Puma King, Adidas World Cup, and Lotto Gullit but the best weirdly were a pair of Converse! Tried Cica Blades, they were the worst! Doesn't sound like you were dragged up in the 70's in Chell Heath then |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 18, 2022 21:36:00 GMT
I had Puma King, Adidas World Cup, and Lotto Gullit but the best weirdly were a pair of Converse! Tried Cica Blades, they were the worst! Doesn't sound like you were dragged up in the 70's in Chell Heath then Not exactly no🤔 |
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 19, 2022 9:06:41 GMT
Remember Gola were big on the boots production scene back in the 70's & 80's aswell. They always seemed something of a lesser make to me.. Then they became retro trendy in the 90's. Remember Stockport, Huddersfield and Barnsley having Gola kits at some time or another. Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) Try having to wear Winfield boots from Woolworths. The brand with 2 stripes! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 9:18:05 GMT
Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) Try having to wear Winfield boots from Woolworths. The brand with 2 stripes! Aaagh the old Adidas two stripes  |
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 19, 2022 12:17:41 GMT
Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) Yep know that feeling, Think that's why I ended up with Hi Tec Boots! My mum & dad must of had a special deal with Hi Tec coz I used to parade around in Hi Tec Silver Shadows when my mates were all Nike this, Nike that 😒.. I also remember wearing Fred Perry polo shirts as my games top at school aswell and always thinking that was a cheap make! Always makes me 😃 when I walk passed a Fred Perry designer shop now and see their Polo shirts RRP'n for easily £50+ .. Hi Tec trainers, Kidsgrove market on Tuesdays had a stall, ironically I briefly worked at a printers in Congleton and we used to print their brochures and sent them to Southend where they are based. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 14:40:34 GMT
Try having to wear Winfield boots from Woolworths. The brand with 2 stripes! Aaagh the old Adidas two stripes Didn't Cruyff wear 2 stripes for the Dutchies as couldn't wear Adidas due to sponsorship? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 17:00:42 GMT
Aaagh the old Adidas two stripes Didn't Cruyff wear 2 stripes for the Dutchies as couldn't wear Adidas due to sponsorship? I wouldn't know mate, I'm only a young whipper snapper of 49 years |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 19, 2022 17:02:47 GMT
Gola football boots were what kids whose parents couldn't afford decent boots used to wear. I know this cuz my mum bought me a pair when I made my primary schools football team. I can distinctly remember being so pissed off that I could have cried because I knew that all the other lads had Adidas, Puma or Patrick (remember them) Try having to wear Winfield boots from Woolworths. The brand with 2 stripes! Remember Nicks? I had some once with Velcro as I couldn’t tie my shoelaces. Long time ago though, well before I hit 30🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 17:03:08 GMT
Didn't Cruyff wear 2 stripes for the Dutchies as couldn't wear Adidas due to sponsorship? I wouldn't know mate, I'm only a young whipper snapper of 49 years My Gramps told me. He's about your age now |
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