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Post by toppercorner on Jun 15, 2022 6:28:59 GMT
I haven't seen this anywhere, apologies if it has been posted before. Apple have just got non-exclusive rights for streaming the MLS for 10 years, at $2.5bn Changes things somewhat in that you'll probably now see a lot more players heading over to the states to play earlier, rather than waiting for the last paycheck. www.mlssoccer.com/apple/ |
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2022 7:17:00 GMT
More money makes MLS more attractive to players yes.
Not sure where that deal puts them compared to other leagues?
I think the franchise system works on some levels but holds them back on others
The big issue there is the league structure which apes other American sports, just doesn't work for football
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 15, 2022 7:24:10 GMT
I’ve tried - I really have - but it’s just not for me.
The standard is hit and miss but I can live with that, it’s the franchise system and the way the league is designed which just leaves me cold.
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 15, 2022 7:26:43 GMT
Championships free agent, the likes of Tommy Smith, Aden Flint, maybe even someone better like Jed Wallace, with the drop off in wages in the championship you could see more and more players of that ilk going over to america than signing for Stoke, Preston or Bristol City on £7k a week.
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2022 7:28:19 GMT
Championships free agent, the likes of Tommy Smith, Aden Flint, maybe even someone better like Jed Wallace, with the drop off in wages in the championship you could see more and more players of that ilk going over to america than signing for Stoke, Preston or Bristol City on £7k a week. £7k a week is way more than such players get in MLS Maybe this deal will change that? |
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 15, 2022 7:46:56 GMT
Championships free agent, the likes of Tommy Smith, Aden Flint, maybe even someone better like Jed Wallace, with the drop off in wages in the championship you could see more and more players of that ilk going over to america than signing for Stoke, Preston or Bristol City on £7k a week. £7k a week is way more than such players get in MLS Maybe this deal will change that? That's what I was thinking yeah, if the MLS could start to offer at least on par with what the championship offers, if not more. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see an influx of championship players over there. |
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Post by femark on Jun 15, 2022 7:53:57 GMT
"According to the release, the average guaranteed compensation for all MLS players is $472,008, a 14 percent increase from last fall's average of $413,998."
Works out at an average salary of £7.5K a week, but this is probably inflated by the likes of Shaqiri who is on £130K a week.
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2022 10:16:26 GMT
"According to the release, the average guaranteed compensation for all MLS players is $472,008, a 14 percent increase from last fall's average of $413,998." Works out at an average salary of £7.5K a week, but this is probably inflated by the likes of Shaqiri who is on £130K a week. yes the very big earners skewwiff the average |
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 15, 2022 10:54:23 GMT
I’ve tried - I really have - but it’s just not for me. The standard is hit and miss but I can live with that, it’s the franchise system and the way the league is designed which just leaves me cold. +1 |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jun 15, 2022 12:13:28 GMT
I’ve tried - I really have - but it’s just not for me. The standard is hit and miss but I can live with that, it’s the franchise system and the way the league is designed which just leaves me cold. Same. They are completely baffled as to why we have promotion/relegation, which means they don't have a clue about football and how it should actually work. Do the winners of the MLS get crowned "World Champions" as well?  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 15, 2022 13:28:21 GMT
I’ve tried - I really have - but it’s just not for me. The standard is hit and miss but I can live with that, it’s the franchise system and the way the league is designed which just leaves me cold. They'd be better off with a more organic federated system, where each state has its own football league based around local communities. There could then be a big European Cup type tournament between each state champion. It's just not their way, though. They don't want an organic grassroots thing, they want to plonk a massive stadium somewhere and immediately get gates of 80,000. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 15, 2022 19:04:14 GMT
"According to the release, the average guaranteed compensation for all MLS players is $472,008, a 14 percent increase from last fall's average of $413,998." Works out at an average salary of £7.5K a week, but this is probably inflated by the likes of Shaqiri who is on £130K a week. yes the very big earners skewwiff the average Depending on the type of average used. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 15, 2022 19:13:08 GMT
I’ve tried - I really have - but it’s just not for me. The standard is hit and miss but I can live with that, it’s the franchise system and the way the league is designed which just leaves me cold. They'd be better off with a more organic federated system, where each state has its own football league based around local communities. There could then be a big European Cup type tournament between each state champion. It's just not their way, though. They don't want an organic grassroots thing, they want to plonk a massive stadium somewhere and immediately get gates of 80,000. To be fair, nowhere else in the World do you have the kind of competition for sports as in the US. The US LOVES sports. They stagger them so something is playing all year around. Baseball (and a bit of golf) is loved in the summer. Rugby and cricket do not hold a candle to the level of love that these other sports have in the US, they are a big part of the culture. The big two: basketball and football share some time in the fall/winter, but have differing end dates. On top of that, the US LOVE their colleges. The rules of college sports are somewhat different to the professional league and they often make sure that college games are played on days that professional games aren’t. In the thick of fall/winter game days, you can watch a big game most days of the week, most hours of the day if you live on the East Coast. There’s just not a whole lot of space for soccer to encroach upon. They’d have to do very well in a World Cup to see a shift and even then, it would take a lot of time. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2022 19:39:31 GMT
yes the very big earners skewwiff the average Depending on the type of average used. Well right now our players don't head over there too much so the money can't be great If the money changes be interesting then |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 15, 2022 19:42:00 GMT
10 years seems a long contract, so maybe Apple are banking on the MLS getting big.
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 15, 2022 20:02:00 GMT
They'd be better off with a more organic federated system, where each state has its own football league based around local communities. There could then be a big European Cup type tournament between each state champion. It's just not their way, though. They don't want an organic grassroots thing, they want to plonk a massive stadium somewhere and immediately get gates of 80,000. To be fair, nowhere else in the World do you have the kind of competition for sports as in the US. The US LOVES sports. They stagger them so something is playing all year around. Baseball (and a bit of golf) is loved in the summer. Rugby and cricket do not hold a candle to the level of love that these other sports have in the US, they are a big part of the culture. The big two: basketball and football share some time in the fall/winter, but have differing end dates. On top of that, the US LOVE their colleges. The rules of college sports are somewhat different to the professional league and they often make sure that college games are played on days that professional games aren’t. In the thick of fall/winter game days, you can watch a big game most days of the week, most hours of the day if you live on the East Coast. There’s just not a whole lot of space for soccer to encroach upon. They’d have to do very well in a World Cup to see a shift and even then, it would take a lot of time. So true. Similar to "fixture congestion" we have "sport congestion." And the college sports scene is huge, often drawing even larger crowds. Many people I know hardly ever watch a professional sport, they'd prefer to watch college competitions in just about everything. The MLS is becoming more popular, but I doubt it will ever catch up to these other audiences. I know of nobody else in my town who actually watches it. They are all caught up in college sports and major professional sports. But I'm an oddball - I'd rather watch Aussie Rules Football any day over the NFL. NASCAR (which I call "NapCar"bunch of blokes running around in a circle for hours) still generates huge audiences and is major competition for these other sports. Then you have all the extreme sports that grab the younger crowds who'd rather watch some bloke brain himself on a skate board than kick a ball around. The other day, there was even a "Professional" Pickle-Ball tournament on, which was stupid, but damn! It looked like they had close to 2000 people in attendance! And the marketing/memorabilia associated with these "major" professional and college sports is pervasive and never-ending. I wouldn't be shocked to find condoms for sale "With your favorite NFL team!" on them. |
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Post by stokeyank on Jun 15, 2022 20:16:13 GMT
I’ve tried - I really have - but it’s just not for me. The standard is hit and miss but I can live with that, it’s the franchise system and the way the league is designed which just leaves me cold. Same. They are completely baffled as to why we have promotion/relegation, which means they don't have a clue about football and how it should actually work. Do the winners of the MLS get crowned "World Champions" as well?  Actually promotion/relegation is talked about ALL the time over here. There are US Soccer sanctioned division 2 and division 3 leagues. The main issue is that MLS owners paid a franchise fee to join the league (like other US sports leagues) and now don't want the risk of being pushed out of a league they paid to be in. There are a lot of people that want the USL and lower leagues given the chance to be promoted to the MLS, but current team owners cry foul because they paid up front. It might happen in the future after enough teams are sold to new owners and/or the league hits a critical mass of enough teams in the top league (MLS). |
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 15, 2022 22:24:20 GMT
The franchise system lends the MLS an air of an exhibition match. Relegation and promotion are imperative principles in 'soccer' 😉
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Post by Mystic Stokie on Jun 16, 2022 0:20:21 GMT
Sure I heard on the radio over here today, that it is $29.50 a game.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 16, 2022 0:30:02 GMT
To be fair, nowhere else in the World do you have the kind of competition for sports as in the US. The US LOVES sports. They stagger them so something is playing all year around. Baseball (and a bit of golf) is loved in the summer. Rugby and cricket do not hold a candle to the level of love that these other sports have in the US, they are a big part of the culture. The big two: basketball and football share some time in the fall/winter, but have differing end dates. On top of that, the US LOVE their colleges. The rules of college sports are somewhat different to the professional league and they often make sure that college games are played on days that professional games aren’t. In the thick of fall/winter game days, you can watch a big game most days of the week, most hours of the day if you live on the East Coast. There’s just not a whole lot of space for soccer to encroach upon. They’d have to do very well in a World Cup to see a shift and even then, it would take a lot of time. So true. Similar to "fixture congestion" we have "sport congestion." And the college sports scene is huge, often drawing even larger crowds. Many people I know hardly ever watch a professional sport, they'd prefer to watch college competitions in just about everything. The MLS is becoming more popular, but I doubt it will ever catch up to these other audiences. I know of nobody else in my town who actually watches it. They are all caught up in college sports and major professional sports. But I'm an oddball - I'd rather watch Aussie Rules Football any day over the NFL. NASCAR (which I call "NapCar"bunch of blokes running around in a circle for hours) still generates huge audiences and is major competition for these other sports. Then you have all the extreme sports that grab the younger crowds who'd rather watch some bloke brain himself on a skate board than kick a ball around. The other day, there was even a "Professional" Pickle-Ball tournament on, which was stupid, but damn! It looked like they had close to 2000 people in attendance! And the marketing/memorabilia associated with these "major" professional and college sports is pervasive and never-ending. I wouldn't be shocked to find condoms for sale "With your favorite NFL team!" on them. I was actually watching the NCAA female Lacrosse Championship game a couple of weeks ago and there were a few thousand there as well. It’s hard to imagine any UK college sport game putting in those kinds of returns. As much as there is a lot of things wrong with the US, they definitely succeed in building college pride. It’s an identity for many that goes far beyond, “oh yeah, I went to KCL” etc. |
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 16, 2022 0:38:00 GMT
Same. They are completely baffled as to why we have promotion/relegation, which means they don't have a clue about football and how it should actually work. Do the winners of the MLS get crowned "World Champions" as well? Actually promotion/relegation is talked about ALL the time over here. There are US Soccer sanctioned division 2 and division 3 leagues. The main issue is that MLS owners paid a franchise fee to join the league (like other US sports leagues) and now don't want the risk of being pushed out of a league they paid to be in. There are a lot of people that want the USL and lower leagues given the chance to be promoted to the MLS, but current team owners cry foul because they paid up front. It might happen in the future after enough teams are sold to new owners and/or the league hits a critical mass of enough teams in the top league (MLS). Bang! Then we'd have 3 real leagues. Maybe a consortium could recoup the current owners their entry fee in the future. I just checked my couch and nope, don't have it. The new MLS isn't a bunch of dummies and yes, they do discuss relegation. They're being pretty smart where they're putting some of these franchises too. Some of them are cities that would be passed over by the NFL, PBL or NBA but are large enough to pack the house because after all, "they're OUR flamin' idiots!" But alas, some total fool showed them horns and drums... Yes, relegation and at least 3 tiers would oh wow, I'd have to start paying more attention than I do now. . |
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