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Maja
Jun 18, 2022 20:52:24 GMT
Post by chell_rosey on Jun 18, 2022 20:52:24 GMT
On free transfer though maybe we will get Afobe off the books with an actual fee and (more likely) we will get a few £m when Collins leaves Burnley and we can actually buy someone If somehow Delap doesn't go on loan to a Premier League club we just might get him He'd satisfy that big strong forward requirement and much more Suspect we might have to settle for Carroll and maybe it will work too We could and would do a lot worse than Carroll on a free, given the young forwards we already have. He could add so much to Campbell, Brown and potentially Maja if he did end up signing - not to mention Tezgel, Griffiths and Wright-Phillips. Does Carroll still have 90 mins in him? Or are we talking last 20 mins?
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 18, 2022 21:36:23 GMT
He’s got his own logo. I want my own logo. That's £500 please
Great value, love the ‘earthy’ feel 👍
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Post by RF10 on Jun 18, 2022 21:58:56 GMT
I'm not sure the dislike on here for him. I think he's a good player and if available for the right price we should be signing him.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2022 22:13:21 GMT
We could and would do a lot worse than Carroll on a free, given the young forwards we already have. He could add so much to Campbell, Brown and potentially Maja if he did end up signing - not to mention Tezgel, Griffiths and Wright-Phillips. Does Carroll still have 90 mins in him? Or are we talking last 20 mins? He played 90 minutes regular for Reading and Albion last season The big worry is his injury record but we're shopping in the free transfer market just presuming he's the best we could get if we want a big striker
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 18, 2022 22:27:22 GMT
I really hope he signs. His hold up play and linking with others was really quite good. The lack of goals a concern but I’d expect that to come if we can get him, Powell and Campbell fit.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 18, 2022 23:07:44 GMT
I like him. If we can get him fit and confident he could do a good job for us.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 18, 2022 23:11:27 GMT
May as well get him in now if he’s going to be free or minimal, give him a full pre season. Who knows, if like Baker, he feels comfortable here he may turn out to be a revelation. There’s something about him from what I saw that makes me think it might work out.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jun 19, 2022 8:58:59 GMT
Looked lazy, slow and weak to me, with poor ball control and a lack of positional awareness.
Still I could be wrong; I've been wrong before.
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Maja
Jun 19, 2022 9:16:38 GMT
Post by pushon on Jun 19, 2022 9:16:38 GMT
Looked lazy, slow and weak to me, with poor ball control and a lack of positional awareness. Still I could be wrong; I've been wrong before. I agree with your assessment and, if he joins, I'd be quite happy to be proved wrong (again).
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 19, 2022 9:17:43 GMT
Looked lazy, slow and weak to me, with poor ball control and a lack of positional awareness. Still I could be wrong; I've been wrong before. Thats not the attitude on here never admit you're wrong .
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2022 5:16:23 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 21, 2022 6:19:12 GMT
Not sure about Maja.
Is he really the striker we need? Don’t think he is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2022 6:27:38 GMT
Not sure about Maja. Is he really the striker we need? Don’t think he is. If the idea is to bring someone in who can play in a 4-3-3, it's obviously not him. At his best, he's a decent link player and a good finisher. Is that enough when you're not fast, not strong and can't compete in the air? I think he could offer something in a 2 - but not particularly when that partner is Brown or Campbell. There was definitely something there that could flourish more when he's properly fit that we saw in moments and flashes, rather than any consistency - but I'm still not sure what the plan is if he's the only striker addition.
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 21, 2022 7:16:19 GMT
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and hope that a full pre-season, at a club that clearly wants him and rates him will bring out the real Josh Maja.
We saw good things in places but he was clearly looking unfit and lacking in confidence.
Sounds like we'll be getting him on the cheap too, so I'm going to be quietly optimistic over this one but he will definitely be a work in progress.
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 7:16:51 GMT
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Post by Ron on Jun 21, 2022 7:16:51 GMT
I wasn’t impressed overall- but the signs he could be useful were there. He clearly wasn’t fit at all. His couple of goals early doors raised expectations. Fitness was issue and he was in an out. Not sure he’s one for the lone striker role at all.
I do think he’s worth a punt on sensible terms- get a full pre season under his belt make him feel loved and who knows.
I’d be very suprised if Sunderland weren’t sniffing mind.
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 7:16:52 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 21, 2022 7:16:52 GMT
Not sure about Maja. Is he really the striker we need? Don’t think he is. If the idea is to bring someone in who can play in a 4-3-3, it's obviously not him. At his best, he's a decent link player and a good finisher. Is that enough when you're not fast, not strong and can't compete in the air? I think he could offer something in a 2 - but not particularly when that partner is Brown or Campbell. There was definitely something there that could flourish more when he's properly fit that we saw in moments and flashes, rather than any consistency - but I'm still not sure what the plan is if he's the only striker addition. I could only see him coming as a squad player.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 21, 2022 7:17:12 GMT
Not sure about Maja. Is he really the striker we need? Don’t think he is. If the idea is to bring someone in who can play in a 4-3-3, it's obviously not him. At his best, he's a decent link player and a good finisher. Is that enough when you're not fast, not strong and can't compete in the air? I think he could offer something in a 2 - but not particularly when that partner is Brown or Campbell. There was definitely something there that could flourish more when he's properly fit that we saw in moments and flashes, rather than any consistency - but I'm still not sure what the plan is if he's the only striker addition. Do we really think this manager has a plan considering what we've witnessed so far. Its always been just a case of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 21, 2022 7:24:20 GMT
Free transfer, yeah I'll take him. Otherwise? I'd rather not.
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 7:30:31 GMT
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Jun 21, 2022 7:30:31 GMT
Even on a free, I'd want to see what else was around first. Not impressed with him at all.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Jun 21, 2022 7:32:40 GMT
He’s got his own logo. I want my own logo. That's £500 please
It also isn't 100% clear whether that's a '7' or a '1', so it'll stimulate debate, which all good art should. I'd add a couple of zeros, and see where you get.
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Post by stoke1863 on Jun 21, 2022 8:01:50 GMT
I’d imagine the Doughty money will be put straight into the Maja pot. And for what it’s worth, I think there was enough shown by him to give him a proper go. Linked play well at times and clearly wanted to be here. Only 23 so still room to improve, seems a decent enough deal.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 21, 2022 9:11:03 GMT
I’d imagine the Doughty money will be put straight into the Maja pot. And for what it’s worth, I think there was enough shown by him to give him a proper go. Linked play well at times and clearly wanted to be here. Only 23 so still room to improve, seems a decent enough deal. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw something in him. I can't believe the negativity on here towards him. For a young player recovering from serious injury I thought he showed plenty of potential for the fee which we will have to pay. I was worried he might want to return to Sunderland when they got promoted. He had more about him than Campbell last season.
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Jun 21, 2022 9:15:46 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 21, 2022 9:15:46 GMT
I’d imagine the Doughty money will be put straight into the Maja pot. And for what it’s worth, I think there was enough shown by him to give him a proper go. Linked play well at times and clearly wanted to be here. Only 23 so still room to improve, seems a decent enough deal. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw something in him. I can't believe the negativity on here towards him. For a young player recovering from serious injury I thought he showed plenty of potential for the fee which we will have to pay. I was worried he might want to return to Sunderland when they got promoted. He had more about him than Campbell last season. He isn't worth a fee to us at all because he's not what we need. If there's room on the wage budget to speculate on a free then fine but we have no real need of a player with his attributes because signing him would leave us still requiring a bigger more physical forward with aerial prowess.
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Post by stoke1863 on Jun 21, 2022 9:56:03 GMT
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw something in him. I can't believe the negativity on here towards him. For a young player recovering from serious injury I thought he showed plenty of potential for the fee which we will have to pay. I was worried he might want to return to Sunderland when they got promoted. He had more about him than Campbell last season. He isn't worth a fee to us at all because he's not what we need. If there's room on the wage budget to speculate on a free then fine but we have no real need of a player with his attributes because signing him would leave us still requiring a bigger more physical forward with aerial prowess. I don’t really get this clamour for a bruiser of a ST. Maja has the physique to hold play up top and bring players in around him. Having some 6ft 5 brute up top who can’t pass and flicks the ball on to no one is of even less use. I’m no scholar of the game so honestly don’t know but who (and I know it’s not the job of the fans to pick out players) would you suggest that fits the mould you want?
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Post by stoke1863 on Jun 21, 2022 10:01:31 GMT
I’d imagine the Doughty money will be put straight into the Maja pot. And for what it’s worth, I think there was enough shown by him to give him a proper go. Linked play well at times and clearly wanted to be here. Only 23 so still room to improve, seems a decent enough deal. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw something in him. I can't believe the negativity on here towards him. For a young player recovering from serious injury I thought he showed plenty of potential for the fee which we will have to pay. I was worried he might want to return to Sunderland when they got promoted. He had more about him than Campbell last season. I think it’s the nature of the fan base at the minute. There are very few who are relatively neutral about the club and it’s players. We've been shit for what feels like an age and people seem to want an instant success, especially in the forward positions but we can’t spend the money we once had and the manager needs to get more out of his big signings. But, any player that’s come in and not done a Baker is being thrown to the wolves. Unless of course they leave, at which point they become the one that got away.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 21, 2022 10:06:40 GMT
He isn't worth a fee to us at all because he's not what we need. If there's room on the wage budget to speculate on a free then fine but we have no real need of a player with his attributes because signing him would leave us still requiring a bigger more physical forward with aerial prowess. I don’t really get this clamour for a bruiser of a ST. Maja has the physique to hold play up top and bring players in around him. Having some 6ft 5 brute up top who can’t pass and flicks the ball on to no one is of even less use. I’m no scholar of the game so honestly don’t know but who (and I know it’s not the job of the fans to pick out players) would you suggest that fits the mould you want? It’s more about them holding the ball all up and allowing Tymon and the new lad out wide to push on and get crosses into the danger area. They don’t have to be 6.5” more a physical threat, a Peter Thorne type player with perhaps an extra yard of pace would be perfect……
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 10:09:40 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 21, 2022 10:09:40 GMT
He isn't worth a fee to us at all because he's not what we need. If there's room on the wage budget to speculate on a free then fine but we have no real need of a player with his attributes because signing him would leave us still requiring a bigger more physical forward with aerial prowess. I don’t really get this clamour for a bruiser of a ST. Maja has the physique to hold play up top and bring players in around him. Having some 6ft 5 brute up top who can’t pass and flicks the ball on to no one is of even less use. I’m no scholar of the game so honestly don’t know but who (and I know it’s not the job of the fans to pick out players) would you suggest that fits the mould you want? We need an option to go more direct when teams sit deep and we're not able to open them up Maja just isn't that he wins nothing in the air at all, he doesn't really do anything that the strikers we already have couldn't do. You're right I'm not going to dedicate my time to researching players to fit that mould and if they were household names we wouldn't be signing them. However if I was part of a team process costing £millions a year I think it would be perfectly reasonable to expect us to identify someone who does.
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 10:11:36 GMT
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Post by stoke1863 on Jun 21, 2022 10:11:36 GMT
I don’t really get this clamour for a bruiser of a ST. Maja has the physique to hold play up top and bring players in around him. Having some 6ft 5 brute up top who can’t pass and flicks the ball on to no one is of even less use. I’m no scholar of the game so honestly don’t know but who (and I know it’s not the job of the fans to pick out players) would you suggest that fits the mould you want? It’s more about them holding the ball all up and allowing Tymon and the new lad out wide to push on and get crosses into the danger area. They don’t have to be 6.5” more a physical threat, a Peter Thorne type player with perhaps an extra yard of pace would be perfect…… From what I’ve seen, I don’t see a reason that Maja can’t be that player. He needs to improve but the signs were there for me.
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 10:13:27 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 21, 2022 10:13:27 GMT
I don’t really get this clamour for a bruiser of a ST. Maja has the physique to hold play up top and bring players in around him. Having some 6ft 5 brute up top who can’t pass and flicks the ball on to no one is of even less use. I’m no scholar of the game so honestly don’t know but who (and I know it’s not the job of the fans to pick out players) would you suggest that fits the mould you want? It’s more about them holding the ball all up and allowing Tymon and the new lad out wide to push on and get crosses into the danger area. They don’t have to be 6.5” more a physical threat, a Peter Thorne type player with perhaps an extra yard of pace would be perfect…… They don't have to be 6'5" but equally it is necessary that they are competent in the air as it's a weapon we're sadly lacking in our forward ranks.
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Maja
Jun 21, 2022 10:14:55 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 21, 2022 10:14:55 GMT
It’s more about them holding the ball all up and allowing Tymon and the new lad out wide to push on and get crosses into the danger area. They don’t have to be 6.5” more a physical threat, a Peter Thorne type player with perhaps an extra yard of pace would be perfect…… From what I’ve seen, I don’t see a reason that Maja can’t be that player. He needs to improve but the signs were there for me. So you didn't see a player who won nothing in the air, wasn't very fast, wasn't particularly strong.
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