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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 23, 2022 17:44:04 GMT
I can't be too disappointed as I'll be blunt I'd never even heard of him........ Whereas you are all over Laurents career and know loads about him ? I’ve seen him play far more often and remember him from his Shrewsbury days yes….. |
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 23, 2022 17:44:18 GMT
Think we will bring in Sawyer's for sure. Sawyer's what? His possessive apostrophe |
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Post by tejstokie on Jun 23, 2022 17:53:51 GMT
Tbh, Laurent, Baker and Sawyers is pretty damn good in my opinion. Andy would have been excellent but you'd think MON is looking at the wings now.
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Post by bighatbilly on Jun 23, 2022 18:04:38 GMT
Tbh, Laurent, Baker and Sawyers is pretty damn good in my opinion. Andy would have been excellent but you'd think MON is looking at the wings now. He's probably at Nando's then... |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 23, 2022 18:49:12 GMT
Tbh, Laurent, Baker and Sawyers is pretty damn good in my opinion. Andy would have been excellent but you'd think MON is looking at the wings now. Nothing with Sawyers in it is good. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 18:50:59 GMT
Never mind he’s wank anyway😉
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 23, 2022 19:06:05 GMT
Never mind he’s wank anyway😉 Probably got an exploding knee. |
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Post by potterburt on Jun 23, 2022 19:18:22 GMT
Tbh, Laurent, Baker and Sawyers is pretty damn good in my opinion. Andy would have been excellent but you'd think MON is looking at the wings now. Nothing with Sawyers in it is good. Unless he’s ‘in’ your unwanted list? |
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 23, 2022 21:17:00 GMT
It's not enormously creative though and means we're not playing Powell in his best position... That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. |
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Post by klingon on Jun 23, 2022 21:27:12 GMT
That’s Glenn Whelan, that is………
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 23, 2022 21:38:24 GMT
It's not enormously creative though and means we're not playing Powell in his best position... That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. You still need some creativity higher up the pitch though, and where's that going to come from? I don't see why we can't just have Laurent as the more defensive-minded of the two and play Baker alongside him with Powell ahead of them? |
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 23, 2022 21:53:05 GMT
That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. You still need some creativity higher up the pitch though, and where's that going to come from? I don't see why we can't just have Laurent as the more defensive-minded of the two and play Baker alongside him with Powell ahead of them? When Baker arrived, I actually thought he was the defensive-midfield lynchpin we'd been waiting for, as that's what he did for his Turkish club prior. Then he's rocked up here and turned into this amazing attacking midfielder. What you suggest could probably work, so long as Baker starting in a less forward position doesn't hinder his attacking play. Crucially, it makes a place for Powell (who I think would be wasted in a front three). |
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 24, 2022 6:11:50 GMT
Tbh, Laurent, Baker and Sawyers is pretty damn good in my opinion. Andy would have been excellent but you'd think MON is looking at the wings now. Nothing with Sawyers in it is good. You obviously no NOWT about football!! Sawyers is not a defending midfielder but with the ball at his feet he's quality. Back to school youth!!!!! |
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Post by s7oke on Jun 24, 2022 6:17:51 GMT
Nothing with Sawyers in it is good. You obviously no NOWT about football!! Sawyers is not a defending midfielder but with the ball at his feet he's quality. Back to school youth!!!!! I think you mean he knows nowt 😁 Sawyers is gash most of the time He ball watches and loses possession a lot also |
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 24, 2022 11:03:13 GMT
You obviously no NOWT about football!! Sawyers is not a defending midfielder but with the ball at his feet he's quality. Back to school youth!!!!! I think you mean he knows nowt 😁 Sawyers is gash most of the time He ball watches and loses possession a lot also Another one!!!! |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2022 12:12:56 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2022 14:13:43 GMT
It's not enormously creative though and means we're not playing Powell in his best position... That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. If we played a back four I'd agree but the point of a back five is to free up the midfield to press forward - if played properly the central CB should take on a lot the DM responsibilities. You need midfielders who can tackle and get stuck in but they should be doing it higher up the pitch - they don't have to do the traditional DM sitting role. With a one or two DMs sitting in front of a back five you are basically setting up as an uber defensive counter attacking side - which is fine but can end up being as boring as hell and just allows the opposition to dominate the ball. The calls for a DM has just become an Oatcake passism - nobody even bothers to try and explain how it is supposed to work with a back 5 or acknowledges the fact that it is an inherently more defensive formation than the way we are trying to play. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2022 14:23:55 GMT
That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. If we played a back four I'd agree but the point of a back five is to free up the midfield to press forward - if played properly the central CB should take on a lot the DM responsibilities. You need midfielders who can tackle and get stuck in but they should be doing it higher up the pitch - they don't have to do the traditional DM sitting role. With a one or two DMs sitting in front of a back five you are basically setting up as an uber defensive counter attacking side - which is fine but can end up being as boring as hell and just allows the opposition to dominate the ball. The calls for a DM has just become an Oatcake passism - nobody even bothers to try and explain how it is supposed to work with a back 5 or acknowledges the fact that it is an inherently more defensive formation than the way we are trying to play. You've had it explained to you many many times. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 24, 2022 14:33:10 GMT
That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. If we played a back four I'd agree but the point of a back five is to free up the midfield to press forward - if played properly the central CB should take on a lot the DM responsibilities. You need midfielders who can tackle and get stuck in but they should be doing it higher up the pitch - they don't have to do the traditional DM sitting role. With a one or two DMs sitting in front of a back five you are basically setting up as an uber defensive counter attacking side - which is fine but can end up being as boring as hell and just allows the opposition to dominate the ball. The calls for a DM has just become an Oatcake passism - nobody even bothers to try and explain how it is supposed to work with a back 5 or acknowledges the fact that it is an inherently more defensive formation than the way we are trying to play. It's boring as hell without one, only we dominate the ball, do nothing with it and our midfield is a confused mess. Again, and I say this to you every time and you ignore it because it's inconvenient - most teams who play with a 'back five' as you call it still have someone doing that job. Maybe not purely sitting but being disciplined when they have to, dropping back when the wing backs bomb on, holding shape when we don't have the ball, tracking runners, all the stuff our midfield hasn't done for about five years. Which teams are you thinking of when you talk about teams who play with a back three who don't have a defensive option in midfield? Chelsea have Kante, Kovacevic and Jorginho who can all play that role and frequently have done. Southgate always played with a couple during two fairly successful England tournament campaigns. Conte is a huge advocate of a back three and has just spent £25m on one. Brentford have Janelt and Norgaard. Who do you mean? |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 24, 2022 14:43:17 GMT
That defensive midfield position is so crucial to making MON’s formation work. A lot on here have said we need a ‘destroyer’ or a ‘holding midfielder’. For me that man sitting behind Baker and Laurent needs to be more of an ‘orchestrator’ - not just tackling and intercepting forward play, but someone who keeps the clock ticking with short and long passes and gives Baker and Laurent confidence to get forward more. If we played a back four I'd agree but the point of a back five is to free up the midfield to press forward - if played properly the central CB should take on a lot the DM responsibilities. You need midfielders who can tackle and get stuck in but they should be doing it higher up the pitch - they don't have to do the traditional DM sitting role. With a one or two DMs sitting in front of a back five you are basically setting up as an uber defensive counter attacking side - which is fine but can end up being as boring as hell and just allows the opposition to dominate the ball. The calls for a DM has just become an Oatcake passism - nobody even bothers to try and explain how it is supposed to work with a back 5 or acknowledges the fact that it is an inherently more defensive formation than the way we are trying to play. It's not supposed to be a back 5 though your WB's are meant to be right up the pitch the DM drops in to partner the central CB and the wide CB's cover a lot of a FB defensive responsibility with support from the WB's as and when available/required. There should be none of this blaming the WB for being caught up the pitch that's where he's supposed to be. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 24, 2022 14:46:56 GMT
Sawyers , Allen Vranic all gone one midfielder in so by maths we now need 2 in there as well as three forward players while i like the physicality of the three in i do fear this might turn into another summer of arnet we clever getting them out before we find out we’ve replaced them with worse
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2022 15:06:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:09:05 GMT
Or his agent banding him around. I think will get over not landing this one. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 24, 2022 15:14:06 GMT
Very strong rumour we'd offered him a deal so you'd think a bit of trying to save face. |
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Post by lancashirelad on Jun 24, 2022 18:50:39 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 24, 2022 19:27:22 GMT
Not a great day for our midfield squad development |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2022 19:32:20 GMT
I’d never heard of him which leads me to think he’s shite anyway, bit like Cousins. Where’s he now anyway?
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Post by lancashirelad on Jun 24, 2022 19:49:59 GMT
Not a great day for our midfield squad development You will be pleased  |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 24, 2022 20:30:02 GMT
Not a great day for our midfield squad development You will be pleased  As I’ve said I like the three signings we’ve made but do have a concern we need 5 more |
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Post by Davef on Jun 25, 2022 8:51:22 GMT
Not a great day for our midfield squad development Why, because a club have signed a player we may never have had any interest in? |
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