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Post by cobhamstokey on May 28, 2022 20:28:44 GMT
VAR is shit. Clearly came off a Liverpool player. It did but on the commentary they're saying it has to be a deliberate touch rather than a deflection etc. One Liverpool player cleared it onto the other. That surely can’t be classed as a deflection.
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Post by lancashirelad on May 28, 2022 20:29:17 GMT
Do not mention to wezza LiVARpool . I thought it should have been allowed.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 28, 2022 20:29:31 GMT
It did but on the commentary they're saying it has to be a deliberate touch rather than a deflection etc. It never touched the Madrid player did it? So don’t see why that would matter. No, but that's what they kept repeating. If it gets kicked onto the Liverpool player and bounced back like it did they reckon its offside, it all depends on if you think it was a deliberate action or not. I know I'm not being overly clear about it, seems like bollocks to me tbh.
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Post by spitthedog on May 28, 2022 20:29:47 GMT
It did but on the commentary they're saying it has to be a deliberate touch rather than a deflection etc. It never touched the Madrid player did it? So don’t see why that would matter. It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. which makes VAR even more baffling
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 28, 2022 20:30:49 GMT
It did but on the commentary they're saying it has to be a deliberate touch rather than a deflection etc. Which is absolute bollocks of course. How on earth do you determine a deliberate touch🤦🏻♂️ Another rule with a totally unnecessary grey area. Get rid of the phrase deliberate and it becomes a much simpler game I agree, it does seem a stupid over complicated rule.
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Post by franklin on May 28, 2022 20:31:36 GMT
It did but on the commentary they're saying it has to be a deliberate touch rather than a deflection etc. Which is absolute bollocks of course. How on earth do you determine a deliberate touch🤦🏻♂️ Another rule with a totally unnecessary grey area. Get rid of the phrase deliberate and it becomes a much simpler game I'm not sure what people saw I saw the Real player just touch the ball forward into the two defenders and the ball deflected into the player who was offside from that initial touch, he was definitely offside.
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Post by roylandstoke on May 28, 2022 20:31:51 GMT
VAR really is shite.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2022 20:31:58 GMT
It never touched the Madrid player did it? So don’t see why that would matter. No, but that's what they kept repeating. If it gets kicked onto the Liverpool player and bounced back like it did they reckon its offside, it all depends on if you think it was a deliberate action or not. I know I'm not being overly clear about it, seems like bollocks to me tbh. If it was a Madrid player doing the kicking it makes sense but it wasn’t.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2022 20:32:00 GMT
It never touched the Madrid player did it? So don’t see why that would matter. It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. The point being made by the studio ref is it can’t be offside if the Liverpool player accidentally played the ball which is a rubbish rule. I want Liverpool to win and they’ve dominated but in my opinion that should have been a goal
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 20:32:31 GMT
Looking at it from the angle shown at HT is clearly the right decision.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 20:32:52 GMT
I turned it off. It sums up everything that's wrong with the modern game. ? I think it's a really absorbing game and there hasn't been any diving or playacting so I'd be interested to know what the issue is? Ive definitely seen worse European Cup Finals than this. Too much big time bullshit. The over the top musical theatrics before the game killed it for me. Plus the game has been pretty shite.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 20:33:48 GMT
It never touched the Madrid player did it? So don’t see why that would matter. It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. which makes VAR even more baffling Clearly touches it. Just showed a great angle of it and not a doubt
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2022 20:34:06 GMT
Which is absolute bollocks of course. How on earth do you determine a deliberate touch🤦🏻♂️ Another rule with a totally unnecessary grey area. Get rid of the phrase deliberate and it becomes a much simpler game I'm not sure what people saw I saw the Real player just touch the ball forward into the two defenders and the ball deflected into the player who was offside from that initial touch, he was definitely offside. Like I said it shouldn’t even be a thing. It should be a goal
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2022 20:35:06 GMT
? I think it's a really absorbing game and there hasn't been any diving or playacting so I'd be interested to know what the issue is? Ive definitely seen worse European Cup Finals than this. Too much big time bullshit. The over the top musical theatrics before the game killed it for me. Plus the game has been pretty shite. It’s a decent game for a final in my opinion. Second half should open up
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2022 20:35:06 GMT
It never touched the Madrid player did it? So don’t see why that would matter. It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. which makes VAR even more baffling It wasnt. It was Konate.
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Post by franklin on May 28, 2022 20:35:31 GMT
I'm not sure what people saw I saw the Real player just touch the ball forward into the two defenders and the ball deflected into the player who was offside from that initial touch, he was definitely offside. Like I said it shouldn’t even be a thing. It should be a goal Ah well true there are several rules I'd fuck off if im honest.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 28, 2022 20:35:32 GMT
i’m even more confused now. Sounds like they’re making it up as they go along.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2022 20:35:50 GMT
It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. which makes VAR even more baffling It wasnt. It was Konate. I agree with Ferdinand for a change
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 28, 2022 20:35:56 GMT
I'm sure they've just made this unintentional deflection stuff up on the spot, I've literally never heard that before, nor do I see how it's relevant.
It came off the player. Tough shit. Onside. Goal.
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Post by wilcopotter on May 28, 2022 20:36:21 GMT
? I think it's a really absorbing game and there hasn't been any diving or playacting so I'd be interested to know what the issue is? Ive definitely seen worse European Cup Finals than this. Too much big time bullshit. The over the top musical theatrics before the game killed it for me. Plus the game has been pretty shite. Don’t worry Drew, don’t think you’ll ever have to suffer Camila down the Potters.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2022 20:37:00 GMT
It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. which makes VAR even more baffling Clearly touches it. Just showed a great angle of it and not a doubt The Liverpool player (Konate I think) touched the ball onto Fabinho. The Madrid player didn’t touch it. The pundits even said no Madrid player touched it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2022 20:37:24 GMT
i’m even more confused now. Sounds like they’re making it up as they go along. Trouble is they make these rules but don’t tell anyone, then some ex ref comes on and says “oh yes this is what the refs have been told to do this season”.
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Post by franklin on May 28, 2022 20:37:48 GMT
It definitely did get touched by a Madrid player. The initial touch was the Madrid player towards goal and then it went off 2 Liverpool players after that. which makes VAR even more baffling Clearly touches it. Just showed a great angle of it and not a doubt It looked that way to me too but I'm sure others will disagree 🤷♂️
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 20:38:10 GMT
i’m even more confused now. Sounds like they’re making it up as they go along. Trouble is they make these rules but don’t tell anyone, then some ex ref comes on and says “oh yes this is what the refs have been told to do this season”. Didn't you get the memo?
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Post by werrington on May 28, 2022 20:38:18 GMT
These were Madrid fans not Liverpool
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Post by bigvern on May 28, 2022 20:38:47 GMT
So if a player trying to clear the danger hits his the ball into his own player unintentionally then the opposing player is offside What a load of shite
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 20:39:15 GMT
Clearly touches it. Just showed a great angle of it and not a doubt It looked that way to me too but I'm sure others will disagree 🤷♂️ A big warning though what this Madrid team can do. Guess who has Mane to score at any time to win his bet😟😟
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 20:39:34 GMT
I must admit I am as confused as Rio even after hearing the ref present it as a "quite simple" explanation.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2022 20:39:46 GMT
Trouble is they make these rules but don’t tell anyone, then some ex ref comes on and says “oh yes this is what the refs have been told to do this season”. Didn't you get the memo? Back in the mid 90’s for my PE theory GCSE exam I had to explain the offside rule using words and diagrams. If I had to do that now I think I’d be wearing the dunces hat!
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Post by Gods on May 28, 2022 20:40:54 GMT
Real look woeful. Not even vaguely at the races.
10 shots to 1 in favour of Liverpool in the first half.
They surely can't fluke there way through another match in this competition?
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