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Post by followyoudown on May 31, 2022 7:45:08 GMT
Grant has retired, if Henserson goes to Newcastle all of a sudden Unitrd will need a number 2/3 and it helps to fill it with an English man. One thing I hate about the modern game, but for a player with little prospect of being a Premier League number 1 a very attractive option. Such a shame how his career turned out. They have Tom Heaton for No 3 and are rumoured to be after Sam Johnstone back on a free.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2022 19:41:47 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 12, 2022 19:48:44 GMT
Would make total sense that.
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Post by David Brent on Jun 12, 2022 19:55:36 GMT
We should be all Over this
Far above what we have now
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Post by DentySCFC on Jun 12, 2022 20:02:21 GMT
We should be all Over this Far above what we have now Nope, he’s finished. He was literally chucking them in in his last season, almost sent us down.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 12, 2022 20:05:57 GMT
We should be all Over this Far above what we have now Knows the club?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 12, 2022 20:09:47 GMT
We should be all Over this Far above what we have now Do you not remember how bad he was?
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Post by RF10 on Jun 12, 2022 20:36:03 GMT
We should be all Over this Far above what we have now Yeah he's really going come back ain't he.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jun 12, 2022 20:42:41 GMT
We should be all Over this Far above what we have now Do you not remember how bad he was? No better and no worse than Shawcross who seems to escape any criticism
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Post by wherty on Jun 12, 2022 21:32:12 GMT
We should be all Over this Far above what we have now Knows the club? And we know him, hence why we are not in for him.
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Post by Davef on Jun 12, 2022 21:40:08 GMT
Do you not remember how bad he was? No better and no worse than Shawcross who seems to escape any criticism Butland was a disaster waiting to happen every week during the relegation season and much of his time with us in the Championship. Absolutely no comparison with Shawcross, unless you can give us some examples of his mistakes?
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 12, 2022 21:58:34 GMT
No better and no worse than Shawcross who seems to escape any criticism Butland was a disaster waiting to happen every week during the relegation season and much of his time with us in the Championship. Absolutely no comparison with Shawcross, unless you can give us some examples of his mistakes? His disastrous end to his stoke career was due to his confidence after his injury untill he has overcome thos and regained his mobility we cant go near if this is assorted snap him up
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jun 12, 2022 22:14:44 GMT
No better and no worse than Shawcross who seems to escape any criticism Butland was a disaster waiting to happen every week during the relegation season and much of his time with us in the Championship. Absolutely no comparison with Shawcross, unless you can give us some examples of his mistakes? Blackburn at home 2018....all 3 goals.
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Post by musik on Jun 12, 2022 22:24:56 GMT
Butland yes Diouf no Berahino no
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Post by NassauDave on Jun 13, 2022 1:23:39 GMT
He was so promising, but the wheels quickly fell off.
There is no way back for me. The lad was an absolute liability in his last season for us.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jun 13, 2022 7:21:40 GMT
Great tune, it was one of my favourites when I was at school, even had it as my ringtone using composer on my 3210
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 13, 2022 8:15:53 GMT
No better and no worse than Shawcross who seems to escape any criticism Butland was a disaster waiting to happen every week during the relegation season and much of his time with us in the Championship. Absolutely no comparison with Shawcross, unless you can give us some examples of his mistakes? Without even mentioning that Butland - who I hold no particular grudge against - really had one good season for us, while Ryan was our standout player for over a decade.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 13, 2022 8:16:40 GMT
Great series - Bob Hoskins breakthrough role.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 13, 2022 8:17:30 GMT
Stick with Bursik - all this chopping and changing keepers is no good for the keeper himself or the blokes in front of him.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 13, 2022 8:22:28 GMT
Stick with Bursik - all this chopping and changing keepers is no good for the keeper himself or the blokes in front of him. That was my position before his stats laid bare the mountain he needs to climb to be even a decent level championship keeper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 8:53:51 GMT
Stick with Bursik - all this chopping and changing keepers is no good for the keeper himself or the blokes in front of him. The opposite...we need 3 good keepers We got promoted with Simmo , Russell Holt and Carlo Nash all competing for the jersey. All 3 were top keepers and pushed the excellent simmonsen for his place all the way . Think Carlo Nash played 10 times and he was our third choice keeper and a bloody good one
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Post by Davef on Jun 13, 2022 9:03:19 GMT
Butland was a disaster waiting to happen every week during the relegation season and much of his time with us in the Championship. Absolutely no comparison with Shawcross, unless you can give us some examples of his mistakes? Blackburn at home 2018....all 3 goals. Nope.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 13, 2022 9:14:24 GMT
Blackburn at home 2018....all 3 goals. Nope. Sadly the Shawcross of his last few seasons at Stoke was a pale shadow physically of the player he had been. Given physicality was an enormous chunk of his attributes it’s hard to see how his demise isn’t as synonymous with our own as any other player that seems pretty blind.
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Post by Davef on Jun 13, 2022 11:59:41 GMT
Sadly the Shawcross of his last few seasons at Stoke was a pale shadow physically of the player he had been. Given physicality was an enormous chunk of his attributes it’s hard to see how his demise isn’t as synonymous with our own as any other player that seems pretty blind. Yeah, I'm fully aware of Shawcross's problems and shortcomings in his last couple of years thanks. I also remember the Blackburn game and he had a very poor game, like the rest of the team. He wasn't solely responsible for all three goals though.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 13, 2022 12:15:42 GMT
Do you not remember how bad he was? No better and no worse than Shawcross who seems to escape any criticism Errrm okay, that's an interesting reply, do you mean the injured Shawcross that was struggling come the end or do you mean the Shawcross that captained the team for many many years and was an absolute rock for us?
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Post by David Brent on Jun 13, 2022 12:17:15 GMT
He’s not finished
He’s a good goal keeper and always has been. Just need to rediscover his form.
Some people amaze me. Want Andy Carrol here as he’s not finished but butland is …
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2022 12:23:02 GMT
He’s not finished He’s a good goal keeper and always has been. Just need to rediscover his form. Some people amaze me. Want Andy Carrol here as he’s not finished but butland is … Did he ever really start? One good season for us.
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 13, 2022 12:32:21 GMT
He’s not finished He’s a good goal keeper and always has been. Just need to rediscover his form. Some people amaze me. Want Andy Carrol here as he’s not finished but butland is … He was poor for us in his last couple of seasons. It wasn’t even a couple of bad games, it was an extended period of shitness. Having got older and not played much in the meantime, I’m not sure how he’s going to be better than he was before.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 13, 2022 12:42:34 GMT
He’s not finished He’s a good goal keeper and always has been. Just need to rediscover his form. Some people amaze me. Want Andy Carrol here as he’s not finished but butland is … Andy Carroll was just a crock though, when fit he showed what he could do, Butland seems to have completely lost it after a promising start and there's nothing to suggest he'll ever get back to a decent level.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jun 13, 2022 13:08:05 GMT
Remember Butland in that game away at Preston. He was embarrassingly bad. They were having shots from everywhere. I don't recall any Stoke player slip in standards as badly as Butland did. It was almost like watching two totally different players in the same body.
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