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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 18, 2022 8:17:33 GMT
They have to make them replay the game behind closed doors at a neutral venue no ifs or buts but the talk big walk small EFL won’t have the cajones , it’s the ultimate message or the results a 3-0 defeat end of its an issue they can’t sweep away but they will and call it a police matter
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 18, 2022 8:17:46 GMT
What makes a football fan, in a rare moment of sheer joy when you're on the pitch with your fellow fans think "I know I'll go and stick one on one of their players?". Oxygen thief.......
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 18, 2022 8:20:44 GMT
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Post by BristolMick on May 18, 2022 8:22:48 GMT
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Post by BristolMick on May 18, 2022 8:42:48 GMT
I was there at the Bristol Rovers game. The coward got his just desserts from Gav. One day something much worse will likely happen so punishing this idiot and setting an example will stem the tide. I knew that we wouldn’t get through this thread without Bristol Rovers getting a mention! So, talking of Rovers, I was there last game of this season when promotion was won by making 5 goals up on the team above to snatch the last promotion place. It took a 7-0 win to do that. When the 7th went in with 5 mins of normal time remaining there was a pitch invasion by a hundred or so fans. The referee took the players off and threatened to abandon the game. An anxious 20 minutes followed before the game restarted. Most fans and no doubt the whole playing staff worried, even furious that the miracle performance was about to be undone by idiot fans By the time the game restarted the other game that mattered had finished and so Rovers knew they didn’t need to score again, just to hold what they had. An unfair advantage then caused by bad behaviour and again a risk to the FC that the result would be overturned! Something has to be done to stop these invasions. I don’t think forcing replays is necessarily the answer because a lot of the dead heads are once a season merchants anyway and it’s a disproportionate punishment. Maybe rope mesh systems in front of stands that stop people from simply running on but that would be a cost that clubs lower down the pyramid would find difficult especially as it would only be needed once in a blue moon. BM
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 18, 2022 8:48:59 GMT
Bans and even prison sentences aren’t a deterrent. They wear them like a badge of honour. What they need is a massive dose of peer pressure and the only way to do that is the way we were treated at primary school “if the culprit doesn’t own up then all of you will be in detention” soon separated the men from the boys. Either make them play it again or play at Wembley with none of their fans there. That’s stop em farting in church. They won’t think it’s such a giggle next time.
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Post by spitthedog on May 18, 2022 8:55:07 GMT
I'll be interested to find out the sentence for this idiot. It will surely be custodial?
That looked really nasty.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 18, 2022 9:04:37 GMT
Utterly cowardly. The amount of teenagers and grown men on the pitch at then end visibly holding smoke bombs/flares also need locking up (or banning minimum - they are against the law arent they?) - ridiculous. I can sort of get if you get promoted running onto the pitch, even a last day survival against the odds, its a joyous moment But a lucky semi final win on pens? You havent won anything yet! Sadly think fences (or anti climb meshing ones as at Wembley) will make a reappearance. We were away at Forest when that random lad decided to run on in the last minute this season, looked like a teenager, dodging stewards and making a bee line for players - he could have had any sort of weapon on him, happily it was just him as a tool. Saw him chucked in the back of a plod van after the game Parents sending little kids on need banning too for life. Its all good fun until some terrorist sends a kid on with a backpack....extreme but... jimmygscfc1234 - me too - Gavin twatted him :-) - hope all is well Mike! All good Robbo mate. Hope your health is tip top as well
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Post by theonlooker on May 18, 2022 9:07:56 GMT
Hand the tie to Sheffield United. A proper punishment.
Far too much of this is creeping back into the game and nowhere near enough is being done to dissuade and eradicate it.
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Post by wuzza on May 18, 2022 9:13:59 GMT
One day the message will get through that attending a football match is not a licence to indulge in moronic behaviour - but I doubt I will live long enough to see it.
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Post by stokie223 on May 18, 2022 9:16:16 GMT
Knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.
I'm not sure where they get these cretins from but sadly there's far too many that think it's okay to act like a complete prick when in a pack. Mob mentality.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 18, 2022 9:59:40 GMT
Really interesting debate on TS at the moment. Jordan tying up Trevor Sinclair in knots as per normal.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 18, 2022 10:00:01 GMT
Not that it’ changes what should be the punishment but first fans hsve raised over 1k for Sharps charitable foundation in a couple of hours so shows as ever the decent outweigh the lunatics but it’s a gesture and shouldn’t dissuade the football authorities from the most aggressive punishment , the fa are quick to condemn these incidents abroad let’s see action at home from the EFL
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Post by followyoudown on May 18, 2022 10:02:53 GMT
Simon Jordan on talksport saying a forest journalist friend was texting him last night saying there would be trouble as Sheff Utd bench particularly the injured players McBurnie and Sharp had been goading and gestering to forest fans, no excuse for the cowardly attack and wont do the idiot in the yellow top much good or help him avoid free bed and board for a few months.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 10:19:50 GMT
I remember a Bournemouth player starting on a fan whilst warming up at the Vic, offered him on so to speak, the usual arms out pose etc . Kept running past him near the dug out shouting 'cone on then' When the ball went out of play, he put it behind his back and Lee Sandford put him on his arse.
Just remembered his name, Trevor Aylott
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 10:23:29 GMT
They have to make them replay the game behind closed doors at a neutral venue no ifs or buts but the talk big walk small EFL won’t have the cajones , it’s the ultimate message or the results a 3-0 defeat end of its an issue they can’t sweep away but they will and call it a police matter They wouldn't have the cajones as you put it to implement such a ridiculous idea I agree You basically open a can of worms there where it would risk happening at every major game and the incident was down to one individual, not the club. He's been arrested and will be dealt with . It is s police matter. I take it when our fan attacked the QPR keeper you wanted us playing behind closed doors.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 18, 2022 10:29:14 GMT
No amount of goading warrants that. It's a game. I see Sharp had to have hospital treatment. That's a serious assault and that fan will go to prison.
The league will look at this now and whether they can put more measures in place to prevent encroachment on the pitch, because of the action of this despicable lowlife
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 10:39:54 GMT
No amount of goading warrants that. It's a game. I see Sharp had to have hospital treatment. That's a serious assault and that fan will go to prison. The league will look at this now and whether they can put more measures in place to prevent encroachment on the pitch, because of the action of this despicable lowlife We are moving back towards barriers of some kind at this rate. Some countries have perspex ones and if this kind of thing continues then someone will be very seriously hurt. We saw Grealish before, Hudders the other night now this
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Post by spitthedog on May 18, 2022 11:04:10 GMT
Simon Jordan on talksport saying a forest journalist friend was texting him last night saying there would be trouble as Sheff Utd bench particularly the injured players McBurnie and Sharp had been goading and gestering to forest fans, no excuse for the cowardly attack and wont do the idiot in the yellow top much good or help him avoid free bed and board for a few months. This has always gone in football and happens all the way down the football ladder, even in non league subs run down the touchline, fans make comments and the sub gives it back and it goes on or vice versa, as long as there is a line that is not crossed (i.e. physical) its all part of the theatre. I don't see why a bit of gesturing and goading necessarily means there has to be trouble. Most normal people realise that. I don't know what point Jordan is trying to make here though as I haven't heard the interview.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 18, 2022 11:13:42 GMT
Safe standing would go a long way to prevent pitch invasions with stewards marshalling fans away from the pitch as they exited the barrier rows. Probably wouldn’t prevent the most determined but it would definitely cut down the numbers.
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Post by followyoudown on May 18, 2022 11:24:12 GMT
Simon Jordan on talksport saying a forest journalist friend was texting him last night saying there would be trouble as Sheff Utd bench particularly the injured players McBurnie and Sharp had been goading and gestering to forest fans, no excuse for the cowardly attack and wont do the idiot in the yellow top much good or help him avoid free bed and board for a few months. This has always gone in football and happens all the way down the football ladder, even in non league subs run down the touchline, fans make comments and the sub gives it back and it goes on or vice versa, as long as there is a line that is not crossed (i.e. physical) its all part of the theatre. I don't see why a bit of gesturing and goading necessarily means there has to be trouble. Most normal people realise that. I don't know what point Jordan is trying to make here though as I haven't heard the interview. He was reporting what a forest supporting journalist had told him during the first half thats all and that was at a time Forest were winning, he wasn't justifying the assault just giving some context. I personally don't have a problem if a player gives a bit back after getting bucketloads, if I was a player though I'd probably choose my moments and games with a high probability of pitch invasions I'd swerve but thats me and theres no excuse for what the guy did to Sharp.
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Post by huuuuuth on May 18, 2022 11:30:16 GMT
That’s just mental. What a prick
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Post by xchpotter on May 18, 2022 11:36:54 GMT
Sadly it was only a matter of time before this happened. Harsh but I’d make them replay the tie. It’s the only way to cut behaviour out like this. It is only one idiot but how long before someone takes on a weapon and causes serious harm to someone. Allowing fans on at the end of a game isn’t a good idea because there will always be one idiot who wants to make a name for themselves. it’s just to risky for the travelling players. The individual should be punished but some accountability should be put on the club too. I thought this to begin with and even thought about awarding the tie outright, but then I realised the flaw whereby some clubs could intentionally place sleepers in the opposing crowd so they could fall back on this and have a result over turned. I agree something needs to be done with crowds running on the pitch, maybe a deferred points deduction to come into play the next season, I don't know.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 18, 2022 11:46:04 GMT
Points deduction excellent idea, whether they go up or not. Something like 9 points would pretty much guarantee their relegation if they did get promoted of course.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on May 18, 2022 12:03:36 GMT
Close up of the assault, the cowardly bastard. Grade A fucking wanker.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 18, 2022 13:04:13 GMT
They have to make them replay the game behind closed doors at a neutral venue no ifs or buts but the talk big walk small EFL won’t have the cajones , it’s the ultimate message or the results a 3-0 defeat end of its an issue they can’t sweep away but they will and call it a police matter They wouldn't have the cajones as you put it to implement such a ridiculous idea I agree You basically open a can of worms there where it would risk happening at every major game and the incident was down to one individual, not the club. He's been arrested and will be dealt with . It is s police matter. I take it when our fan attacked the QPR keeper you wanted us playing behind closed doors. I did consider the glass houses argument regarding QPR but I have to say we would have deserved it the clubs are responsible for players And supporters inside the stadium
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 13:08:06 GMT
They wouldn't have the cajones as you put it to implement such a ridiculous idea I agree You basically open a can of worms there where it would risk happening at every major game and the incident was down to one individual, not the club. He's been arrested and will be dealt with . It is s police matter. I take it when our fan attacked the QPR keeper you wanted us playing behind closed doors. I did consider the glass houses argument regarding QPR but I have to say we would have deserved it the clubs are responsible for players And supporters inside the stadium The supporter was banned and rightly so. I believe he passed away sadly If you replay a game or award games you're basically laying down a rule that anyone could do similar to get a game replayed. It didn't have any sway on the outcome either so a ridiculous idea but not going to end well if this continues
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 13:31:58 GMT
I agree with the above they should be made to replay the game. If they can't do this then they should be made to play with no fans at Wembley. Wouldn't surprise me if something like this happens at vale too if they beat Swindon, especially to mccurdie. Mind you he would probably batter them Totally disagree. Why should the hard work from the players and coaching staff be ruined by one idiot. Absolutely ludicrous comment to have the game replayed.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 18, 2022 13:40:50 GMT
They have to make them replay the game behind closed doors at a neutral venue no ifs or buts but the talk big walk small EFL won’t have the cajones , it’s the ultimate message or the results a 3-0 defeat end of its an issue they can’t sweep away but they will and call it a police matter I don’t agree with this. The club should be fined for the pitch invasion and that fine should be high if they are promoted and get to enjoy the insane wealth of the Premier League. He should (and likely will) go to prison. Replaying the game for an incident that happened after it seems illogical.
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Post by sticky on May 18, 2022 14:48:39 GMT
Absolutely shocking that. hard to find the right punishment for the club, but no doubt in my mind he should be in jail for that. Not nice to say it but it wouldn’t be difficult for some fanatic to run on with a knife
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