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Post by knype on May 16, 2022 13:29:09 GMT
Do you think we would be in a better position with a change of ownership? Yes I do. Unequivocally. Really? There are not many owners of clubs that would write off what the Coates family have done. I agree that they are not perfect but there are some absolute whoppers out there...Look at the Derby scenario, and Birmingham, and Hull etc etc |
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Post by reddipotter on May 16, 2022 13:29:53 GMT
'Who are we?' This is getting deep, we may need Aristotle or Descartes to help out here :-) Socrates, surely? |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 16, 2022 14:09:18 GMT
Stoke-on-Trent and Stoke City,mirror each other,not fashionable,Seen better days and no sign of things getting any better.
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Post by theonlooker on May 16, 2022 14:11:08 GMT
Really? There are not many owners of clubs that would write off what the Coates family have done. I agree that they are not perfect but there are some absolute whoppers out there...Look at the Derby scenario, and Birmingham, and Hull etc etc What's the point of owners that create a huge debt because they can't run a club right, then write off that debt once the damage is done? It's a pointless exercise of shoving money down the drain and dragging your football club with you. Is that the choice here? In the red corner, the Coates family who run the club like your rich uncle, who flies in and out of your front room like a blue bottle with the runs on Christmas Day and lobs an iPhone at you....and in the blue corner a shyster who gives you the shits every time he cooks you a meal? Why can't Stoke have the middle ground? Owners that invest sensible amounts of money attached to a sensible and coherent plan? |
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Post by Gods on May 16, 2022 14:28:03 GMT
'Who are we?' This is getting deep, we may need Aristotle or Descartes to help out here :-) Socrates, surely? Laughs, that's a good joke, but you may have to be above a certain age to get it! :-) |
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Post by davethebass on May 16, 2022 15:10:07 GMT
Laughs, that's a good joke, but you may have to be above a certain age :-) One of my favourite Brazil players. Surprised he's in this game though, must have a Greek grandparent or something..... |
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Post by jokker on May 16, 2022 15:27:59 GMT
Great post, Ted. Equally, indeed possibly more, important for me is.....what is our identity off the pitch, not on it? Just what is the vision, the plan, for our club? Since the season finished. We've not heard a word from our manager or owner. Not one. Indeed, I can hardly ever remembering Jon Coates speak. I agree about O'Neill's non appearence, He should be spoken to and warned about future behaviour. But as for not a word from the owner...I think a good section of Stoke fans, whether on fb, oatcake, the sentinel messages or other fan fora, can blame themselves for the board's reluctance to speak to the public. Every time in the last few years they've said something, it has been twisted and turned, every little word falsely interpreted to mean something else, and repeated too many times for them to entertain more of the same. So now they've reduced it to the financial statement, and lo and behold, a general statement on the disappointing overall record in the leagues over a five year period is adapted by some as the owner's criticism of the current manager. So for them, the less said, the better. |
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Post by loosestools on May 16, 2022 15:33:09 GMT
Laughs, that's a good joke, but you may have to be above a certain age :-) One of my favourite Brazil players. Surprised he's in this game though, must have a Greek grandparent or something..... Absolutely genius |
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Post by tpholloway1 on May 16, 2022 15:39:09 GMT
'Who are we?' This is getting deep, we may need Aristotle or Descartes to help out here :-) Je pense donc je suis - je pense.  |
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