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Post by Gary Hackett on May 13, 2022 13:58:18 GMT
Can't see Bursik thrilled at the prospect at spending a year in League 1. And his Mum will be pissed off too! I think he'll go. Well let his mum get pissed off then because unfortunately league one is about as good as he deserves right now, she needs a reality check if she thinks otherwise.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 13, 2022 14:00:19 GMT
Here's the shot stopping crib sheets we use to write about a keeper's shot stopping qualities. It's 20 shot rolling averages for goals allowed compared to the difficulty of the shots/headers faced. It's then heavily smoothed to get a trendline. Above the line, a keeper is on a run where he has saved more than expected, below the line an he's allowed more goals than expected. Distance from the zero line shows how extreme his performance has been. Length of the plot corresponds how many on target attempts each keeper has faced (these are all for Stoke, not their previous/future clubs). View AttachmentLast time we had a prolonged bout of over performance was Sept 2018 to March 2019. (Jack Butland). It's been treading water or slightly drowning since then. Not many periods of above-average goalkeeping in our recent history! Just a couple of Adam Davies runs. Sobering. I'd erased Angus Gunn from my memory
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 13, 2022 15:13:05 GMT
It's quite depressing and mirrors our season.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 13, 2022 15:16:23 GMT
It's quite depressing and mirrors our season. A decent keeper needs to be a priority, you can't get promoted with shit keepers.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 13, 2022 15:16:34 GMT
It's quite depressing and mirrors our season. A decent keeper needs to be a priority, you can't get promoted with shit keepers.
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Post by lordb on May 13, 2022 15:18:42 GMT
It's quite depressing and mirrors our season. A decent keeper needs to be a priority, you can't get promoted with shit keepers. Stoke did in 1992/3 Very much the exception though
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Post by leicspotter on May 13, 2022 17:02:05 GMT
And I agree, I donโt think heโs a particularly good keeper but people that matter do and thatโs what matters and what always mattered. Just remember this when you have another opinion that is NOT shared with "people that matter"...'cos your opinion doesn't matter!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 13, 2022 17:27:24 GMT
And I agree, I donโt think heโs a particularly good keeper but people that matter do and thatโs what matters and what always mattered. Just remember this when you have another opinion that is NOT shared with "people that matter"...'cos your opinion doesn't matter! Iโve always said this. Thatโs why people getting arsey makes me laugh and doesnโt bother me. Weโre all chatting shit on the internet. None of it means anything.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 13, 2022 21:32:41 GMT
Perhaps cut down on the shit and engage in more meaningful and considered discussion. Weโre all in it together and trying to help each other through the crap ๐ณ
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on May 16, 2022 10:31:27 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season?
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Post by fca47 on May 16, 2022 11:10:24 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? No he's shit, I'm sure that will be the consensus on here.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 16, 2022 11:14:57 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? You'd hope we could find a younger alternative. Let's face it, if he wasn't an ex-player, we wouldn't be talking about him. Would we?
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Post by cvillestokie on May 16, 2022 11:57:06 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? You'd hope we could find a younger alternative. Let's face it, if he wasn't an ex-player, we wouldn't be talking about him. Would we? 39 is a bit old, but he still plays a lot. We could really do with some quality back there. A one year contract at his age would hopefully not be the worst.
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on May 16, 2022 11:58:29 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? You'd hope we could find a younger alternative. Let's face it, if he wasn't an ex-player, we wouldn't be talking about him. Would we? I mentioned him because of his experience of winning promotion out of this league. Nothing to do with the fact he used to be on our books.
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Post by superalexneil on May 16, 2022 11:58:48 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? came on to post the same, what a friggin legend
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 16, 2022 13:17:25 GMT
You'd hope we could find a younger alternative. Let's face it, if he wasn't an ex-player, we wouldn't be talking about him. Would we? I mentioned him because of his experience of winning promotion out of this league. Nothing to do with the fact he used to be on our books. And I was asking a rhetorcial question not having a go mate. Just posing the question, but less than enthused, that's all.
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Post by spitthedog on May 16, 2022 13:24:45 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? I think Foster would be great for a year. Great experience and quality, whats not to like. Gives us a year to find a decent keeper going forward.
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Post by themistocles on May 16, 2022 13:27:51 GMT
Foster would be an ideal number 2 and mentor for Bursik.
I rate his behind the scenes weekly youtube videos of matches as well..
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 16, 2022 14:29:27 GMT
Foster would be an ideal number 2 and mentor for Bursik. I rate his behind the scenes weekly youtube videos of matches as well.. You'd think he'd be able to get a number 1 spot somewhere for a season or two.
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Post by greenhoffsleftboot on May 16, 2022 14:47:06 GMT
Talk here about Foster. I heard he wants to go to the US for a season or two.
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Post by Northy on May 16, 2022 15:18:57 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? You'd hope we could find a younger alternative. Let's face it, if he wasn't an ex-player, we wouldn't be talking about him. Would we? Ex player for us ? ๐
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Post by realstokebloke on May 16, 2022 15:46:11 GMT
Yup, yet ano absolute priority for us this summer.
(Which one, exactly, do we start on?)
But, as it happens, Ben Foster would be a great addition and stop gap imo (providing he didn't still want PL wages of course). Certainly while we get our ducks in a row, either improving Bursic or finding the next Jack B. - which won't happen overnight.
That data set really does highlight just how shockingly bad we've been.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 16, 2022 15:50:59 GMT
Foster would be an ideal number 2 and mentor for Bursik. I rate his behind the scenes weekly youtube videos of matches as well.. After having just played in 26 premier league games this season, why would he come here to sit behind Bursik (or Bonham) as number 2?
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Post by realstokebloke on May 16, 2022 15:59:30 GMT
Foster would be an ideal number 2 and mentor for Bursik. I rate his behind the scenes weekly youtube videos of matches as well.. After having just played in 26 premier league games this season, why would he come here to sit behind Bursik (or Bonham) as number 2? Other way round, surely.
BF = #1 JB / JB = joint #2 to fight it out *
* or sell one of 'em to Bournemouth for a whack.
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Post by pieofpeter on May 16, 2022 17:17:32 GMT
Ben Foster has just left Watford, Experienced promotion out of this league, still a very good goalkeeper. Answer to our problems for a season? As good as he is I think he will end up back at WBA as Johnston is supposedly off!
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Post by themistocles on May 16, 2022 18:31:42 GMT
Foster would be an ideal number 2 and mentor for Bursik. I rate his behind the scenes weekly youtube videos of matches as well.. After having just played in 26 premier league games this season, why would he come here to sit behind Bursik (or Bonham) as number 2? Because he's 39 years old.
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Post by kjpt140v on May 16, 2022 18:37:25 GMT
Amazing how willing so called supporters are to right off players at such a young age.
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Post by marwood on May 16, 2022 19:03:18 GMT
Gunn was just another strange footnote in one of the wierdest goalkeeping seasons we must have ever experienced I'm not convinced we saw the best of him due to injury. Ended up at a premier club after us but one who who conceded shit loads of goals and got relegated
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 16, 2022 20:51:57 GMT
You'd hope we could find a younger alternative. Let's face it, if he wasn't an ex-player, we wouldn't be talking about him. Would we? Ex player for us ? ๐ Whatโs your point?
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Post by liathroid on May 25, 2022 10:38:54 GMT
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