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Post by mrrine on May 1, 2022 17:37:11 GMT
Agree with a lot of comments on here about paying him to his strengths, however, he thinks he's maradonna and doesn't want to be here at all.
So for that reason, we can let him go, chuck him in the sea etc etc. It doesn't really matter, he's mentally not here and we should all move on.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 17:40:10 GMT
Still it seems very odd to let a 1 in 3 striker leave for free with a year left on his contract You cannot demand a fee if no one is prepared to pay it given the high wages he is currently on. I think you missed the point. If not willing to pay a fee then maybe we shouldn't let him go. I get that they pay a part of his wages and if Millwall aren't prepared to buy him in the Summer then look to loan elsewhere. Would be in their interest to buy him if possible
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Post by Simon Drainrod on May 1, 2022 19:04:35 GMT
It’s so long since we saw Afobe play for Stoke, I can scarcely remember what he’s actually like.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 1, 2022 19:05:37 GMT
It’s so long since we saw Afobe play for Stoke, I can scarcely remember what he’s actually like. He’s wank👍🏻
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 19:57:00 GMT
It’s so long since we saw Afobe play for Stoke, I can scarcely remember what he’s actually like. He’s wank👍🏻 Scored 11 league goals in 31 games for a substandard Millwall team. I'd hardly call that crap.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 1, 2022 19:57:54 GMT
Scored 11 league goals in 31 games for a substandard Millwall team. I'd hardly call that crap. I didn’t call him crap
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Post by tqstokie on May 2, 2022 9:06:50 GMT
You cannot demand a fee if no one is prepared to pay it given the high wages he is currently on. I think you missed the point. If not willing to pay a fee then maybe we shouldn't let him go. I get that they pay a part of his wages and if Millwall aren't prepared to buy him in the Summer then look to loan elsewhere. Would be in their interest to buy him if possible What would be the point of keeping him? He would just be a drain on finances. In the circumstances would you offer a fee knowing Stoke need to get rid?
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Post by chrisgal on May 2, 2022 9:12:36 GMT
To me it is quite simple. Our service to front men has been crap for years. Put all the above mentioned strikers in a team that provides them with good service and they will score goals.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 9:36:04 GMT
I think you missed the point. If not willing to pay a fee then maybe we shouldn't let him go. I get that they pay a part of his wages and if Millwall aren't prepared to buy him in the Summer then look to loan elsewhere. Would be in their interest to buy him if possible What would be the point of keeping him? He would just be a drain on finances. In the circumstances would you offer a fee knowing Stoke need to get rid? True but at the same time would you give him to Millwall say on a free after him doing ok there? I don't see the logic in that
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Post by tqstokie on May 2, 2022 10:56:44 GMT
What would be the point of keeping him? He would just be a drain on finances. In the circumstances would you offer a fee knowing Stoke need to get rid? True but at the same time would you give him to Millwall say on a free after him doing ok there? I don't see the logic in that The logic is that no one is likely to pay a fee and you cut your losses by letting him go. I ask you again in the circumstances would you pay a fee?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 11:17:32 GMT
True but at the same time would you give him to Millwall say on a free after him doing ok there? I don't see the logic in that The logic is that no one is likely to pay a fee and you cut your losses by letting him go. I ask you again in the circumstances would you pay a fee? If I was Millwall and wanted to keep him then yes. I guess they pay a loan fee of course but if not available for loan then perhaps with a year left on his contract a deal could be possible but wages obviously be an issue as someone mentioned. Depends on the player of course if he wants to sit on his current deal which you imagine he would
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Post by enuntio on May 2, 2022 11:19:02 GMT
Andy Carrol 🤔 on a free 🖖🏽
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Post by tqstokie on May 2, 2022 11:23:15 GMT
The logic is that no one is likely to pay a fee and you cut your losses by letting him go. I ask you again in the circumstances would you pay a fee? If I was Millwall and wanted to keep him then yes. I guess they pay a loan fee of course but if not available for loan then perhaps with a year left on his contract a deal could be possible but wages obviously be an issue as someone mentioned. Depends on the player of course if he wants to sit on his current deal which you imagine he would Well if I was Millwall I would sit on my hands and offer nothing.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 2, 2022 11:40:28 GMT
It isn't a choice of Afobe or Fletcher is it? Afobe isn't the back to goal player that Fletcher is. Afobe is more the type of player we are coaching Brown to be, and i'll be honest, Brown has been more useful for us and a damn sight cheaper. Afobe or Fletcher - neither for me. Both have been dreadful signings in different ways. Fletcher has been a decent signing, unfortunately he only had 1 year left in him and we didn't know that at the time and wouldn't have signed if we hadn't have offered the 2 anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 11:46:26 GMT
If I was Millwall and wanted to keep him then yes. I guess they pay a loan fee of course but if not available for loan then perhaps with a year left on his contract a deal could be possible but wages obviously be an issue as someone mentioned. Depends on the player of course if he wants to sit on his current deal which you imagine he would Well if I was Millwall I would sit on my hands and offer nothing. What if Stoke reused a loan? Wait a year and then no guarantee will get him
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Post by tqstokie on May 2, 2022 11:52:02 GMT
Well if I was Millwall I would sit on my hands and offer nothing. What if Stoke reused a loan? Wait a year and then no guarantee will get him I am afraid I have no idea.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 12:50:38 GMT
What if Stoke reused a loan? Wait a year and then no guarantee will get him I am afraid I have no idea. To be honest with you on that. Bit of a tricky one. Not sure loaning him to a potential contender a good idea but do we want to keep him on the wage book?
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Post by LGH87 on May 3, 2022 7:58:34 GMT
For all those calling for Afobe back, you are blatantly ignoring the fact Jacob Brown has scored more than him this season and does everything better than Afobe to boot.
It's like fucking groundhog day on here at times, every year about this time we have people calling for Afobe to be brought back, it's like over time people forget how wank he has been for us, it's fucking astounding.
As for the "Afobe will score goals / Afobe is a proven goalscorer / scored goals wherever he's been" it's one of the biggest myths on this message board, he's never scored goal anywhere except for a short spell for MK Dons in league 1 and two short spells at Wolves. He's reached double figures 4 times in his career. He's not fucking useless and people need to move on.
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Post by a on May 3, 2022 8:10:35 GMT
We definitely need better, bigger, tougher than the powderpuff lot we have at the moment. Lucas Joao from Reading or Elijah Adebayo from Luton for a big, mobile target man.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 8:12:38 GMT
For all those calling for Afobe back, you are blatantly ignoring the fact Jacob Brown has scored more than him this season and does everything better than Afobe to boot. It's like fucking groundhog day on here at times, every year about this time we have people calling for Afobe to be brought back, it's like over time people forget how wank he has been for us, it's fucking astounding. As for the "Afobe will score goals / Afobe is a proven goalscorer / scored goals wherever he's been" it's one of the biggest myths on this message board, he's never scored goal anywhere except for a short spell for MK Dons in league 1 and two short spells at Wolves. He's reached double figures 4 times in his career. He's not fucking useless and people need to move on. Don't think is a great clamour to have him back or many claiming he's scored goals wherever he's been. In fact several times many have pointed out that it simply isn't true. What we need to be doing is getting some kind of return for him rather than a loan, no matter how small and get him off our wage bill which is a big problem. Can't see it happening though.
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Post by LGH87 on May 3, 2022 8:49:59 GMT
For all those calling for Afobe back, you are blatantly ignoring the fact Jacob Brown has scored more than him this season and does everything better than Afobe to boot. It's like fucking groundhog day on here at times, every year about this time we have people calling for Afobe to be brought back, it's like over time people forget how wank he has been for us, it's fucking astounding. As for the "Afobe will score goals / Afobe is a proven goalscorer / scored goals wherever he's been" it's one of the biggest myths on this message board, he's never scored goal anywhere except for a short spell for MK Dons in league 1 and two short spells at Wolves. He's reached double figures 4 times in his career. He's not fucking useless and people need to move on. Don't think is a great clamour to have him back or many claiming he's scored goals wherever he's been. In fact several times many have pointed out that it simply isn't true. What we need to be doing is getting some kind of return for him rather than a loan, no matter how small and get him off our wage bill which is a big problem. Can't see it happening though. I hear plenty saying it in the ground and in the pub too though mate, not just on here. Agree with what you say about getting a fee for him, you'd hope on the back of a 12 goal season we'd get something but I imagine his wages will put an end to any hope of that.
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Post by potterpaul on May 3, 2022 9:49:34 GMT
As soon as we get rid they start to score?? Afobe, Surridge, Gregory and Vokes, I know two of them play in league one, but still...... Should we let a 12+ goal scorer go for free? Is he any worse than Maja or Fletch? Yes. Yes he is. Yes. Yes we should. 😂 I get the impression both Rowett and Afobe aren't on your Christmas card list.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 3, 2022 9:52:11 GMT
Yes. Yes he is. Yes. Yes we should. 😂 I get the impression both Rowett and Afobe aren't on your Christmas card list. Sure Afobe is a nice bloke and wouldn't wish what he's been through on anybody. He was 100% the wrong signing for us though and Rowett and Phillips are idiots for going all out for him with that chunk of change. The player's own efforts or lack thereof didn't do him any favours either. Maybe there were underlying reasons for that but his all round play was basically the same as it's been for most of his career, ie non-existent for the most part.
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Post by independent on May 3, 2022 10:12:55 GMT
Let him go and try and resist the urge to do cartwheels.
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Post by mickstupp on May 3, 2022 10:17:09 GMT
Tin hat on but would we have been any worse off with him upfront this season instead of Maja, Fletcher, or Campbell?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 3, 2022 10:20:57 GMT
Tin hat on but would we have been any worse off with him upfront this season instead of Maja, Fletcher, or Campbell? We wouldn't have been any better off.
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Post by mickstupp on May 3, 2022 10:24:27 GMT
Tin hat on but would we have been any worse off with him upfront this season instead of Maja, Fletcher, or Campbell? We wouldn't have been any better off. I don’t see how he could be any worse to be honest. He’s scored one on three for a team that’s about to finish higher than us. Even a moderate contribution of 10-12 goals might have made a big difference to our final position.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 3, 2022 10:28:58 GMT
We wouldn't have been any better off. I don’t see how he could be any worse to be honest. He’s scored one on three for a team that’s about to finish higher than us. Even a moderate contribution of 10-12 goals might have made a big difference to our final position. He wouldn't have got that in our side.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 3, 2022 10:30:22 GMT
We wouldn't have been any better off. I don’t see how he could be any worse to be honest. He’s scored one on three for a team that’s about to finish higher than us. Even a moderate contribution of 10-12 goals might have made a big difference to our final position. Literally anyone would have contributed more than Fletcher this season, he’s stunk the place out apart from 2/3 hard working performances around the time of Blackpool away…..
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 3, 2022 10:34:21 GMT
We bring in these strikers because they are decent, or else why bring them to the club?
But the moment they put on the Red n White stripe they become crap.
Why is this? It must be our fault, because too many fail here
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