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Post by thevoid on May 5, 2022 10:04:44 GMT
Lots more too Diouf being hacked down by Liverpool goalie Various sending off, it was a whole litany of obscene decisions with not one dodgy decision in our favour from him Refs generally can just be rubbish you win some lose some, that's the experience we get in The Championship In the Premier League refs favour the big clubs always have always will With Atkinson it was several levels higher, if the most Stoke hating Vale fan you could find was put in charge they would struggle to be as ridiculous as Atkinson I was watching Manchester United last night and Martin Tyler said the VAR ref in the studio was 20 years younger than Mike Dean so was very unlikely to rule against his decisions on the pitch β¦..he thought it was quite funny but I thought it was a dangerous statement and concerning for smaller premiership clubs given how Dean and Atkinson favour the bigger clubs given how VAR Is there to stop poor decisions In short Atkinson is a disgrace and heβs been allowed to get away with it Something similar was said recently regarding away clubs unlikely to get favourable decisions at Anfield and places like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 10:12:18 GMT
Preconceived agendas π Be realistic. All this everyone is out to get Stoke nonsense some actually believe. Of course you are right. As fans we remember and store up the big decisions we think went against us and tend to forget those that went in our favour. Every club's fans are the same. It's part of the supporter psychology. I'm sure that if you trawl through other clubs message Boards you will find fans thinking that Moss and Atkinson had it in for them, and probably remembering decisions from years ago they gave in Stoke's favour against their club, just as people have done on here. In reality of course the elite refs group, including Moss and Atkinson, are what it says on the tin, the best referees around, and are subject these days to much more intense scrutiny and performance assessment than was ever the case years ago. You do talk sense Malc. Ever thought of doing this for a living?
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Post by lordb on May 5, 2022 11:08:34 GMT
Preconceived agendas π Be realistic. All this everyone is out to get Stoke nonsense some actually believe. Of course you are right. As fans we remember and store up the big decisions we think went against us and tend to forget those that went in our favour. Every club's fans are the same. It's part of the supporter psychology. I'm sure that if you trawl through other clubs message Boards you will find fans thinking that Moss and Atkinson had it in for them, and probably remembering decisions from years ago they gave in Stoke's favour against their club, just as people have done on here. In reality of course the elite refs group, including Moss and Atkinson, are what it says on the tin, the best referees around, and are subject these days to much more intense scrutiny and performance assessment than was ever the case years ago. In general re refs completely agree Couldn't disagree more re Atkinson
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Post by ihaveadream on May 5, 2022 12:11:46 GMT
They visited the opticians where they were given better contact lenses. They both realise that their eyesight has improved so much that continuing as referees would be untenable.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 5, 2022 14:22:42 GMT
Thereβs so many incidents with us in regards Atkinson but Sunderland away and Newcastle away were premeditated and sinister and only he knows that He cheated us and football those two days Lots more too Diouf being hacked down by Liverpool goalie Various sending off, it was a whole litany of obscene decisions with not one dodgy decision in our favour from him Refs generally can just be rubbish you win some lose some, that's the experience we get in The Championship In the Premier League refs favour the big clubs always have always will With Atkinson it was several levels higher, if the most Stoke hating Vale fan you could find was put in charge they would struggle to be as ridiculous as Atkinson Or even Nick Powell (who for those who don't know, hates Stoke more than any Vale fan ever will).
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 5, 2022 14:24:13 GMT
Yes, to an extent. But I would take the downright incompetent fools from the Championship over the arrogant refs from the Premier League who shafted us, not through incompetence, but because they had preconceived agendas about our club, and were desperate to curry favour with the stars. Preconceived agendas π Be realistic. All this everyone is out to get Stoke nonsense some actually believe. Some referees do have preconceived ideas (not agendas) about certain clubs and players though, so they're more likely to dish out cards to a team like Stoke given the (mostly unfair) reputation we had in the Premier League. On another point somewhere in the thread, it's not always the 'smaller' clubs that get the brunt of bad decisions either. Players like Hazard and Zola weren't very well protected by referees.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 14:28:52 GMT
Preconceived agendas π Be realistic. All this everyone is out to get Stoke nonsense some actually believe. Some referees do have preconceived ideas (not agendas) about certain clubs and players though, so they're more likely to dish out cards to a team like Stoke given the (mostly unfair) reputation we had in the Premier League. On another point somewhere in the thread, it's not always the 'smaller' clubs that get the brunt of bad decisions either. Players like Hazard and Zola weren't very well protected by referees. I think we saw to an extent the ref leaving Richarlison on the deck last week as his reputation proceeded him, possibly Sterling also last night although do think was yet another five.
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Post by willieeetmiout on May 5, 2022 17:04:04 GMT
Preconceived agendas π Be realistic. All this everyone is out to get Stoke nonsense some actually believe. Of course you are right. As fans we remember and store up the big decisions we think went against us and tend to forget those that went in our favour. Every club's fans are the same. It's part of the supporter psychology. I'm sure that if you trawl through other clubs message Boards you will find fans thinking that Moss and Atkinson had it in for them, and probably remembering decisions from years ago they gave in Stoke's favour against their club, just as people have done on here. In reality of course the elite refs group, including Moss and Atkinson, are what it says on the tin, the best referees around, and are subject these days to much more intense scrutiny and performance assessment than was ever the case years ago. If you can name me one game changing incident Martin Atkinson has decided in our favour I will agree, it is however impossible to forget something that never happened.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 5, 2022 17:11:11 GMT
Preconceived agendas π Be realistic. All this everyone is out to get Stoke nonsense some actually believe. Of course you are right. As fans we remember and store up the big decisions we think went against us and tend to forget those that went in our favour. Every club's fans are the same. It's part of the supporter psychology. I'm sure that if you trawl through other clubs message Boards you will find fans thinking that Moss and Atkinson had it in for them, and probably remembering decisions from years ago they gave in Stoke's favour against their club, just as people have done on here. In reality of course the elite refs group, including Moss and Atkinson, are what it says on the tin, the best referees around, and are subject these days to much more intense scrutiny and performance assessment than was ever the case years ago. That's undeniably true. However, I can't believe for one second that Casemiro's continued presence on the pitch last night was nothing to do with the fact that he was playing for RM in the CL semi-final at the Bernabeu. The ref did precisely what refs have done to Stoke many times over the years, especially in the PL against the bigger sides, he applied the rules differently to different players and to different teams. So, while I agree that we all harbour grudges about incidents, it's not just our collective imaginations...last night's game being a perfect example.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 22, 2022 19:29:53 GMT
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Post by wherty on Jun 22, 2022 19:41:35 GMT
Studied at Keele Uni, kevs a nice guy
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 22, 2022 22:23:54 GMT
Some can retire and start spending the money from their brown envelopes.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jun 22, 2022 22:35:19 GMT
Studied at Keele Uni, kevs a nice guy Was his full name Kevin Friend of the Top Six back then?
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Jun 23, 2022 7:06:04 GMT
The catermole juggling the ball along the goal line was extraordinary. The only defence I can think of was the player didnβt have both hands on the ball at the same timeπ³π
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 23, 2022 10:20:37 GMT
Studied at Keele Uni, kevs a nice guy I've seen him around Leicester with his (guide) dog...maybe he'll go back to working at Royal Mail?
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jun 24, 2022 12:36:20 GMT
Cunts the pair of βem.
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Post by wrighter on Jun 26, 2022 12:24:58 GMT
Not surprised there are loads retiring All these players in their faces over a decision is pathetic
Moss wasnt that bad in all honesty
Atkinson............. f*ck off you prick
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