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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 28, 2022 23:19:41 GMT
This thread is a bit bizarre in as much that if we were in a play off final and won do you think they’d be kicking off with each other on OVF? BM Yes, they would. Because football fans are mostly idiots 😅 Me especially.
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Post by tuum on May 29, 2022 0:21:54 GMT
Already did twice. Can’t be arsed? then don’t worry 😂 Just seen it. It's that bollocks about Sunderland and in no way comparable with a minor team in our city. As other people have pointed out Selectively picking and choosing based on size does not devalue the OP's post. He was merely pointing out that winning promotion brings positive benefits to the city. Whether it is £500 or £500,000 is not the point. People spend more when they are happy. Vale's success has had a very positive reception from the media and other L2 fans. It may have only lasted as long as it took Madrid to beat Liverpool but for 4hrs Vale were being talked about and praised on national TV and in other national media. It raises the profile of S-o-T. No one said that Vale's victory would solve Stoke's drug problem or provide accommodation for the city's homeless. It just provides a bit of happiness to 30k of the city's population. Altho judging by the reaction of some on here this may be offset by 50k Stoke fans who are now suffering from depression and anxiety. Potentially a net loss in the city's overall happiness index. Personally, I don't begrudge Vale their 15min of fame and if the City can also get a bit of positive publicity (however small) off the back of their achievement then even better. It's a shame that some of our supporters have such low self-esteem that they feel threatened by Vale's promotion from L2 to L1. Perhaps, collectively, we need to grow a spine and develop a bit of resilience.
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Post by vincentvega on May 29, 2022 0:28:09 GMT
I fail to see how the city of Stoke on Trent benefits from Vale being promoted today?
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Post by onionman on May 29, 2022 3:07:46 GMT
Imagine the Sheffield clubs Imagine the Glasgow clubs Imagine the Scousers Imagine Villa and Birmingham Imagine Hearts and Hibs Imagine Tottenham and Arsenal and each other’s fans coming on the their own message board and congratulating their City rivals🤔🙄 Utterly bizzare that some of our supporters consider it ok to do so It begins with a W and ends with an S 7 letters No need to bring Walters into it. He’s an Everton fan.
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Post by swinny on May 29, 2022 5:35:41 GMT
For all the placating I've attempted, I think I got AIDS watching Shanahan's lad mincing about. Fopppy haired bellend.
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Post by ct1 on May 29, 2022 8:26:38 GMT
I couldn’t agree more, well said 👍 I also agree Me too 👍😁
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 8:28:37 GMT
When's the open top minibus celebration?
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Post by staffsvilla on May 29, 2022 10:29:24 GMT
I get all the opinions/arguments on the vale and the only point I can offer is in my case I honestly find it impossible to wish Small Heath well in any respect,every high profile game (yes I know not many over the last 100 years) they have been in I have wanted them to fail dismally and mainly like the poor relations they are (similar to you and them) they've delivered abject failure,but there have been some really painful memories none more so than arsenal gifting them the league cup I'm sure that was fixed ! Local rivalry is like your team ...for life !
UTV
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Post by sheds1862 on May 29, 2022 11:11:09 GMT
This thread needs locking. It's downright embarrassing. Grown men arguing and bickering and trading insults. I wanted Mansfield to win. They were shit. But it hasn't ruined my weekend.
I feel for a few on here their weekend is in tatters. Sad.
What a sad state of affairs when we slag each other off .
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Post by TinkerT on May 29, 2022 11:54:04 GMT
I get all the opinions/arguments on the vale and the only point I can offer is in my case I honestly find it impossible to wish Small Heath well in any respect,every high profile game (yes I know not many over the last 100 years) they have been in I have wanted them to fail dismally and mainly like the poor relations they are (similar to you and them) they've delivered abject failure,but there have been some really painful memories none more so than arsenal gifting them the league cup I'm sure that was fixed ! Local rivalry is like your team ...for life ! UTV Well said mate, all these clowns have been sent loopy with the shit we've been playing the last couple of years, good to remind them from time to time.
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Post by sheds1862 on May 29, 2022 12:04:19 GMT
If I can take one thing from the unwashed getting promoted it's this.
15 months ago they were staring non league firmly in the face. A thread on here about the prospect of them playing Eastleigh and Dover . They installed Clarke as manager, I think had some berserk run like winning 7 or 8 on the spin and survived easily. They then shipped out 15 players including many favourites and had a clear out of everything.
Seems from what I read and what my mate tells me that despite being in the bottom league their recruitment has been spot on. Leftfield signings instead of the usual lazy recruitment many clubs do.
If they can do it having been an absolute shit show then surely to goodness with our fantastic backing then it gives cause for optimism.
Get the off field stuff like manager and recruitment in place then you've half a chance.
I await our summer of recruitment with baited breath
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Post by Squeekster on May 29, 2022 12:04:22 GMT
For all the placating I've attempted, I think I got AIDS watching Shanahan's lad mincing about. Fopppy haired bellend. Not anymore, he had it shaved bald in the dressing room after the match!
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Post by Scrotnig on May 29, 2022 12:41:23 GMT
Port Who?
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Post by silsdenstokie on May 29, 2022 15:08:58 GMT
Ive never lived in the area and cant be doing with em
Didnt mind em in the 80s and remember rooting for em when they played Spurs in the cup. Then they caught us up and their fanbase turned into arseholes. Hated em ever since
The comments above about them getting more pleasure out of Stoke failing than their own team doing well tells you all you need to know
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Post by sheds1862 on May 29, 2022 16:54:00 GMT
Ive never lived in the area and cant be doing with em Didnt mind em in the 80s and remember rooting for em when they played Spurs in the cup. Then they caught us up and their fanbase turned into arseholes. Hated em ever since The comments above about them getting more pleasure out of Stoke failing than their own team doing well tells you all you need to know Which is exactly what this thread was turning into !
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 16:56:21 GMT
I blame their promotion on you Albert and solely you.
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Post by felonious on May 29, 2022 17:40:23 GMT
Darrell Clarke: Port Vale boss dedicates League Two play-off final win to daughter www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61620872Don't know whether it's been commented on but huge respect to the Mansfield fans for that applause in the 8th minute.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 29, 2022 17:50:39 GMT
Darrell Clarke: Port Vale boss dedicates League Two play-off final win to daughter www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61620872Don't know whether it's been commented on but huge respect to the Mansfield fans for that applause in the 8th minute. On a human level I’m please for Clarke after what he’s been through. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I actually only found out the result half an hour ago as I’ve been camping at the weekend, I know barely enough Vale fans to warrant a rivalry these days if I’m honest……
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 29, 2022 21:32:43 GMT
How many Vale fans wanted Stoke to beat Man City in the FA Cup final?
How many Vale fans were saying Stoke winning the FA Cup would be good for the City?
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Post by dirtclod on May 29, 2022 21:40:01 GMT
I fail to see how the city of Stoke on Trent benefits from Vale being promoted today? Especially after what they pulled with Swindon. Spot on as far as I'm concerned!
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Post by dirtclod on May 29, 2022 21:41:37 GMT
This thread needs locking. It's downright embarrassing. Grown men arguing and bickering and trading insults. I wanted Mansfield to win. They were shit. But it hasn't ruined my weekend. I feel for a few on here their weekend is in tatters. Sad. What a sad state of affairs when we slag each other off . Respect to Sheds for this post. I get that. Also think that it's a crock that they weren't assessed an immediate responsibility for that on-field madness vs. Swindon. But...that's my opinion.
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Post by baystokie on May 29, 2022 21:44:04 GMT
How many Vale fans wanted Stoke to beat Man City in the FA Cup final? How many Vale fans were saying Stoke winning the FA Cup would be good for the City? No idea on both questions. Does it really matter how many Vale fans did/did not wish us well? You don't have to imitate what they did/did not do, that's just a playground level reaction. By all means state your position/opinions but don't use Vale fans as your marker.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 29, 2022 22:08:57 GMT
Being brutal I wouldn't swap theor ground. History or fans or players but management structure board room advisor and management personnel it's a damn shame but on stricture terms for sure they are ahead of us
Football advisor as president dof appoints amd maamges the manager etc
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Post by Bod on May 29, 2022 22:39:56 GMT
How many Vale fans wanted Stoke to beat Man City in the FA Cup final? How many Vale fans were saying Stoke winning the FA Cup would be good for the City? Neither of them.
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Post by Billy the kid on May 29, 2022 23:26:52 GMT
The only person I feel a slight happiness for is Darrell Clarke, the success he has had wo t paper over the cracks of a truly horrible personal tragedy. So for him personally I'm pleased as punch. Everyone else connected with pvfc can go fuck themselves, the ex Stoke supporting chairwoman, John rudge and his packet of sweets, and the unwashed toothless 16k people that rememberd they support a football club, they can all literally go and fuck themselves. Forever in our shadow. And we are shit.
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Post by Sfance on May 29, 2022 23:35:09 GMT
Oh the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that will be going on on this board should Vale reach the championship this time next year and we go in the other direction. Things would change awfully quickly in the admittedly unlikely event that were to happen. A fair number of the SCFC fans that climbed on the bandwagon in the Premier years would likely disappear. When I was first supporting Stoke, they were lucky to get 8,000, Vale would get about the same. I hate to break it to you but there's nothing written in the stars to say that Stoke should always be above Vale. (Weren't Man City in the 3rd Division in 1998 or so?) A little less bile from our side wouldn't go amiss.
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Post by Waggy on May 30, 2022 4:42:10 GMT
Oh the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that will be going on on this board should Vale reach the championship this time next year and we go in the other direction. Things would change awfully quickly in the admittedly unlikely event that were to happen. A fair number of the SCFC fans that climbed on the bandwagon in the Premier years would likely disappear. When I was first supporting Stoke, they were lucky to get 8,000, Vale would get about the same. I hate to break it to you but there's nothing written in the stars to say that Stoke should always be above Vale. (Weren't Man City in the 3rd Division in 1998 or so?) A little less bile from our side wouldn't go amiss. We have always had higher gates. Think only by about 3,000 though. Get your point though and i remember those days. Lou coming in about 2-3 seasons later was what transformed us and attendances soon rose.
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Post by thevoid on May 30, 2022 5:28:18 GMT
Oh the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that will be going on on this board should Vale reach the championship this time next year and we go in the other direction. Things would change awfully quickly in the admittedly unlikely event that were to happen. A fair number of the SCFC fans that climbed on the bandwagon in the Premier years would likely disappear. When I was first supporting Stoke, they were lucky to get 8,000, Vale would get about the same. I hate to break it to you but there's nothing written in the stars to say that Stoke should always be above Vale. (Weren't Man City in the 3rd Division in 1998 or so?) A little less bile from our side wouldn't go amiss. What season was this please, so I can have a little check at the attendance figures?
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Post by Davef on May 30, 2022 6:07:29 GMT
Oh the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that will be going on on this board should Vale reach the championship this time next year and we go in the other direction. Things would change awfully quickly in the admittedly unlikely event that were to happen. A fair number of the SCFC fans that climbed on the bandwagon in the Premier years would likely disappear. When I was first supporting Stoke, they were lucky to get 8,000, Vale would get about the same. I hate to break it to you but there's nothing written in the stars to say that Stoke should always be above Vale. (Weren't Man City in the 3rd Division in 1998 or so?) A little less bile from our side wouldn't go amiss. What season was this please, so I can have a little check at the attendance figures? They had a better average attendance than us in 1960/61. Within three seasons we had a three times bigger average attendance.
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Post by thevoid on May 30, 2022 6:29:20 GMT
What season was this please, so I can have a little check at the attendance figures? They had a better average attendance than us in 1960/61. Within three seasons we had a three times bigger average attendance. What happened there?
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