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Post by fourfourtwo on Apr 12, 2022 20:20:48 GMT
I have just watched the new Jimmy Saville documentary on Netflix, and I’m amazed at the amount of rumours that were going around about him but he never got caught whilst alive!
I’ve watched previous documentaries about him with Louis Theroux whilst he was alive, but this was a real eye opener. The opportunities he had to commit these crimes was disgusting.
Not only that, I was dumbfounded how close he was with Thatcher, And the Royal Family. They would write to him and ask him advice on numerous occasions with the letters being shown. The most famous letter was how they should act in public after the Lockerbie bombing!
So how did he get away with it?
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Post by teenagefanclub on Apr 12, 2022 20:45:57 GMT
You should watch “jimmy saville is a wizard” documentary on YouTube, it’s actually remarkably good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 21:20:58 GMT
I watched the McCann one on Netflix. Basically interviewing their friends who said how great they were. Worst and most biased documentary have seen since,,,Fred West...they fell underneath my patio when installing it, honestly'
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 12, 2022 21:23:14 GMT
I watched the McCann one on Netflix. Basically interviewing their friends who said how great they were. Worst and most biased documentary have seen since,,,Fred West...they fell underneath my patio when installing it, honestly' Yep disgustingly biased |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 22:13:17 GMT
I watched the McCann one on Netflix. Basically interviewing their friends who said how great they were. Worst and most biased documentary have seen since,,,Fred West...they fell underneath my patio when installing it, honestly' Yep disgustingly biased Our kid was kidnapped but not not a shred of evidence after all this time to back the theory up. Send us money |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 13, 2022 5:11:47 GMT
What has the McCann doc got to do with Saville? 😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 8:52:00 GMT
What has the McCann doc got to do with Saville? 😂 It's Savile Charlie Adams wouldn't approve |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2022 9:02:03 GMT
I have just watched the new Jimmy Saville documentary on Netflix, and I’m amazed at the amount of rumours that were going around about him but he never got caught whilst alive! I’ve watched previous documentaries about him with Louis Theroux whilst he was alive, but this was a real eye opener. The opportunities he had to commit these crimes was disgusting. Not only that, I was dumbfounded how close he was with Thatcher, And the Royal Family. They would write to him and ask him advice on numerous occasions with the letters being shown. The most famous letter was how they should act in public after the Lockerbie bombing! So how did he get away with it? He very sensibly cultivated relationships with the Establishment. He was well connected to the royals and Thatcher, neither of whom would want embarrassing revelations to come out, thereby calling into question their judgement. Same with Prince Andrew and Epstein/Maxwell. A well oiled operation swung into effect to try to defend Andrew. Unfortunately for him, the US judiciary and legal system wasn't quite so compliant as our own, see the reluctance on the part of the Met to look into the partygate saga. It's bent as fuck. If you have money and position, you have to be really bad/very stupid/unlucky to get caught. And even then, in some cases, you just brazen it out and don't give a fuck. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 10:07:26 GMT
I have just watched the new Jimmy Saville documentary on Netflix, and I’m amazed at the amount of rumours that were going around about him but he never got caught whilst alive! I’ve watched previous documentaries about him with Louis Theroux whilst he was alive, but this was a real eye opener. The opportunities he had to commit these crimes was disgusting. Not only that, I was dumbfounded how close he was with Thatcher, And the Royal Family. They would write to him and ask him advice on numerous occasions with the letters being shown. The most famous letter was how they should act in public after the Lockerbie bombing! So how did he get away with it? He very sensibly cultivated relationships with the Establishment. He was well connected to the royals and Thatcher, neither of whom would want embarrassing revelations to come out, thereby calling into question their judgement. Same with Prince Andrew and Epstein/Maxwell. A well oiled operation swung into effect to try to defend Andrew. Unfortunately for him, the US judiciary and legal system wasn't quite so compliant as our own, see the reluctance on the part of the Met to look into the partygate saga. It's bent as fuck. If you have money and position, you have to be really bad/very stupid/unlucky to get caught. And even then, in some cases, you just brazen it out and don't give a fuck. People around him seemed to have little idea of the extent of his shenanigans. I don't think for one second folk in high authority covered it up so to speak. He was obviously an odd character and easy to judge after the revelations I guess. He was hardly friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher , he was seen as an incredible fundraiser which he was and trusted by many as a well known figure. Elton John was allegedly known for getting his driver to pick up very young, often homeless boys for parties according to one 70s musician but no more ever came if it at the time like the John Lydon/Nolans comments at the time of Savile. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2022 10:10:40 GMT
He very sensibly cultivated relationships with the Establishment. He was well connected to the royals and Thatcher, neither of whom would want embarrassing revelations to come out, thereby calling into question their judgement. Same with Prince Andrew and Epstein/Maxwell. A well oiled operation swung into effect to try to defend Andrew. Unfortunately for him, the US judiciary and legal system wasn't quite so compliant as our own, see the reluctance on the part of the Met to look into the partygate saga. It's bent as fuck. If you have money and position, you have to be really bad/very stupid/unlucky to get caught. And even then, in some cases, you just brazen it out and don't give a fuck. People around him seemed to have little idea of the extent of his shenanigans. I don't think for one second folk in high authority covered it up so to speak. He was obviously an odd character and easy to judge after the revelations I guess. He was hardly friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher , he was seen as an incredible fundraiser which he was and trusted by many as a well known figure. Elton John was allegedly known for getting his driver to pick up very young, often homeless boys for parties according to one 70s musician but no more ever came if it at the time like the John Lydon/Nolans comments at the time of Savile. I think a lot of people knew very well what Savile was up to, but chose to keep it quiet for the reasons I gave above. He was very much friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 10:22:00 GMT
People around him seemed to have little idea of the extent of his shenanigans. I don't think for one second folk in high authority covered it up so to speak. He was obviously an odd character and easy to judge after the revelations I guess. He was hardly friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher , he was seen as an incredible fundraiser which he was and trusted by many as a well known figure. Elton John was allegedly known for getting his driver to pick up very young, often homeless boys for parties according to one 70s musician but no more ever came if it at the time like the John Lydon/Nolans comments at the time of Savile. I think a lot of people knew very well what Savile was up to, but chose to keep it quiet for the reasons I gave above. He was very much friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531She certain lobbied for him as did many, Esther Rantzen was closer to him than many and claimed had no idea. Easy to say that Mrs Thatcher knew this and that, she had him at many social functions etc and why not? As did so many. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 10:24:33 GMT
There was an interview with his nephew that's on youtube. When his nephew was very young (maybe 14-16 type age) he travelled to London for some reason or other, alone, and was found at a train station by a bloke and invited back to a "party" at a flat where a lot of young boys were also present. At one point Jimmy Saville turned up, clocked his nephew and then his nephew was taken out of the situation. I think it's highly likely based on that story that a lot of Saville's protection was as a result of being the guy on the ground commanding a ring of procurers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 10:32:07 GMT
There was an interview with his nephew that's on youtube. When his nephew was very young (maybe 14-16 type age) he travelled to London for some reason or other, alone, and was found at a train station by a bloke and invited back to a "party" at a flat where a lot of young boys were also present. At one point Jimmy Saville turned up, clocked his nephew and then his nephew was taken out of the situation. I think it's highly likely based on that story that a lot of Saville's protection was as a result of being the guy on the ground commanding a ring of procurers. Yep have seen that. A member of the 70s group Cockney Rebel said was common place with one or 2 to send drivers to collect kids at Kings Cross. Often they were polaroided allegedly and warned what would happen to them if blabbed. One did go to The Sun and the story was then debunked by The Sun itself after they spent 2 or 3 days reporting it with a later apology that the young lad made it up. How often do The Sun do that? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2022 10:40:21 GMT
I think a lot of people knew very well what Savile was up to, but chose to keep it quiet for the reasons I gave above. He was very much friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531She certain lobbied for him as did many, Esther Rantzen was closer to him than many and claimed had no idea. Easy to say that Mrs Thatcher knew this and that, she had him at many social functions etc and why not? As did so many. I'm sure they all claimed they had no idea; what are they going to say "yeah, I knew he was a raving paedo, but it didn't really bother me"  If you read that BBC article, and read between the lines of what the civil service and security agencies were saying, it's clear that many people knew what was going on and that they were concerned about the closeness of the relationships between Savile and Thatcher, and Savile and the royals. He wasn't daft, Savile. He knew how to make sure he was protected while he was alive. |
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Post by noustie on Apr 13, 2022 11:01:50 GMT
There was something really weird about the Have I Got News for you hoax that the episode never aired because I remember distinctly watching it. I'd been chasing after a lass for months and she texted to invite me around to her flat but I watched HIGNFY before heading over. It was that much of a car crash even a straining erection couldn't pull me away.
Don't know if it was because BBC Scotland were a week ahead or something but I definetly saw the episode. It was creepy as fuck that everyone knew he was a horrible kid fucking bastard but here he was still in plain sight.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 11:09:03 GMT
She certain lobbied for him as did many, Esther Rantzen was closer to him than many and claimed had no idea. Easy to say that Mrs Thatcher knew this and that, she had him at many social functions etc and why not? As did so many. I'm sure they all claimed they had no idea; what are they going to say "yeah, I knew he was a raving paedo, but it didn't really bother me" If you read that BBC article, and read between the lines of what the civil service and security agencies were saying, it's clear that many people knew what was going on and that they were concerned about the closeness of the relationships between Savile and Thatcher, and Savile and the royals. He wasn't daft, Savile. He knew how to make sure he was protected while he was alive. Of course they're not going to admit it IF they knew but easy to jump to conclusions . Didn't his own PA have no idea? Always going to be theories and finger pointing when in fact we'll never know. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Apr 13, 2022 11:13:46 GMT
People around him seemed to have little idea of the extent of his shenanigans. I don't think for one second folk in high authority covered it up so to speak. He was obviously an odd character and easy to judge after the revelations I guess. He was hardly friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher , he was seen as an incredible fundraiser which he was and trusted by many as a well known figure. Elton John was allegedly known for getting his driver to pick up very young, often homeless boys for parties according to one 70s musician but no more ever came if it at the time like the John Lydon/Nolans comments at the time of Savile. I think a lot of people knew very well what Savile was up to, but chose to keep it quiet for the reasons I gave above. He was very much friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531Looks like he was friendly with James Callaghan too. Attachments:
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 13, 2022 11:23:49 GMT
I think a lot of people knew very well what Savile was up to, but chose to keep it quiet for the reasons I gave above. He was very much friends with the likes of Mrs Thatcher. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23355531Looks like he was friendly with James Callaghan too. I'm sure he was friends with lots of people in high places. I suspect he was canny enough to know that if he managed that he was largely untouchable. It'd be naive to think he wasn't protected by those people, even if that protection only amounted to the odd phone call here and here so that not too much scrutiny fell on their own judgement about socialising regularly with a paedo. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 13, 2022 11:23:55 GMT
I have just watched the new Jimmy Saville documentary on Netflix, and I’m amazed at the amount of rumours that were going around about him but he never got caught whilst alive! I’ve watched previous documentaries about him with Louis Theroux whilst he was alive, but this was a real eye opener. The opportunities he had to commit these crimes was disgusting. Not only that, I was dumbfounded how close he was with Thatcher, And the Royal Family. They would write to him and ask him advice on numerous occasions with the letters being shown. The most famous letter was how they should act in public after the Lockerbie bombing! So how did he get away with it? He got away with it by ingratiating himself with high society. Also, the charity work put him on a pedestal which put him beyond question and gave him power. Broadmoor? How did worm his way in there? Because if he wanted to be involved nobody could stop him. And his involvement would be perceived as positive because of his charity work and connections. And that combination underpins all aspects of this vile sickening story. One thing about him being a national treasure is flawed though. Long before he died the tide had sort of turned against him. He was widely reviled by many and the rumours were hinted at when he was referred to. |
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Post by flea79 on Apr 13, 2022 12:10:02 GMT
he does state in the police interview audio that he has a network of high ranked police officers in yorkshire who help him with these allegations when they surface and threatens the interviewing female that if she doesnt stop she will be on traffic come monday morning
a vile man who used the establishments in this country to further his sick crimes
i was also horrified about his alleged necrophilia acts and that he spent a number of days with his departed mothers remains who he had an odd relationship with
just sick and disgusting
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 14:16:11 GMT
I have just watched the new Jimmy Saville documentary on Netflix, and I’m amazed at the amount of rumours that were going around about him but he never got caught whilst alive! I’ve watched previous documentaries about him with Louis Theroux whilst he was alive, but this was a real eye opener. The opportunities he had to commit these crimes was disgusting. Not only that, I was dumbfounded how close he was with Thatcher, And the Royal Family. They would write to him and ask him advice on numerous occasions with the letters being shown. The most famous letter was how they should act in public after the Lockerbie bombing! So how did he get away with it? He got away with it by ingratiating himself with high society. Also, the charity work put him on a pedestal which put him beyond question and gave him power. Broadmoor? How did worm his way in there? Because if he wanted to be involved nobody could stop him. And his involvement would be perceived as positive because of his charity work and connections. And that combination underpins all aspects of this vile sickening story. One thing about him being a national treasure is flawed though. Long before he died the tide had sort of turned against him. He was widely reviled by many and the rumours were hinted at when he was referred to. I always saw people Norman Wisdom as a national treasure. Folk who seemed universally loved, not Jimmy Savile. Certainly a national celebrity but I think the Louis Theroux doc showed that he had a slightly different opinion of himself that maybe the general public did. More of a national eccentric |
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Post by Northy on Apr 13, 2022 14:57:54 GMT
Jonny Lydon called Savile out in 1978 and got banned by the BBC who Savile was well entrenched with
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Post by neworleanstokie on Apr 13, 2022 23:22:58 GMT
my 2 great aunts were on a cruise with Saville's family in the 70s.. to this day I can remember them telling us how his family would not shut up about how Jimmy would pay for everything.. they must have known something was wrong.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 14, 2022 6:38:21 GMT
Typical psychopath. Hiding in plain sight looking normal
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2022 8:03:12 GMT
Jonny Lydon called Savile out in 1978 and got banned by the BBC who Savile was well entrenched with Wasn't it Lydon's list of people he wanted to die or similar but yep he did 1/00% call him out as did The Nolans after he stuck his finger up the youngest one live on TOTP |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 15, 2022 10:21:01 GMT
There was something really weird about the Have I Got News for you hoax that the episode never aired because I remember distinctly watching it. I'd been chasing after a lass for months and she texted to invite me around to her flat but I watched HIGNFY before heading over. It was that much of a car crash even a straining erection couldn't pull me away. Don't know if it was because BBC Scotland were a week ahead or something but I definetly saw the episode. It was creepy as fuck that everyone knew he was a horrible kid fucking bastard but here he was still in plain sight. It did air, and it's here: Scum does say some very dodgy things in the episode e.g. "I'm feared in every girl's school in the country" in response to Angus Deayton asking him about being a wrestler. Which leads to what sounds like some uncomfortable laughter from the audience and a look from Diane Abbot. The 'hoax' part of it is an apparent rant that Paul Merton made against the scumbag. Which by all accounts from those involved in the episode, didn't happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 11:12:41 GMT
There was something really weird about the Have I Got News for you hoax that the episode never aired because I remember distinctly watching it. I'd been chasing after a lass for months and she texted to invite me around to her flat but I watched HIGNFY before heading over. It was that much of a car crash even a straining erection couldn't pull me away. Don't know if it was because BBC Scotland were a week ahead or something but I definetly saw the episode. It was creepy as fuck that everyone knew he was a horrible kid fucking bastard but here he was still in plain sight. It did air, and it's here: Scum does say some very dodgy things in the episode e.g. "I'm feared in every girl's school in the country" in response to Angus Deayton asking him about being a wrestler. Which leads to what sounds like some uncomfortable laughter from the audience and a look from Diane Abbot. The 'hoax' part of it is an apparent rant that Paul Merton made against the scumbag. Which by all accounts from those involved in the episode, didn't happen. The girl's school comment was something he repeated a few times. To be fair to Diane Abbot she did say after the show that she found Fluff Freeman to be quite creepy. |
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