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Post by lordb on Apr 11, 2022 14:01:55 GMT
Heard you get cheaper car insurance for passing??, in saying that my insurance is £293 for this year for a M235, which ridiculously cheap. Believe some companies do but I’ve never bothered to be honest, just wanted see if I could pass it at the time!! Used to be involved with the IAM insurance As a book of business it gets passed on and because A: easily the biggest collection of cunts out there, all that moaning over fuck all is time consuming and of course time is money &B: their loss ratios were worse than average Thus provibg they were worse drivers
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 11, 2022 14:15:35 GMT
With indicators, the clue is in the title but it suddenly seems to have become very unfashionable to use them.
I see so many cars not bothering to use them when turning at junctions, on roundabouts, changing lanes etc.. heading directly for the fast lane when coming onto the motorway from a junction, cutting up several others without bothering to indicate seems to be a current fave too
My mind reading skills are obviously not up to scratch.
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Post by westlandstokie on Apr 11, 2022 15:30:24 GMT
I drive approx 40k miles a year in my job and I can honestly say that the driving standards in and around Stoke on Trent is one of the worst in the country. I regularly drive into places like London, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds etc and the drivers there are for more aware and courteous than in Stoke. Not sure why it’s so bad here…any suggestions? Have you tried the Bradford area?! Many illegal and crazy drivers and the police are invisible. When I started driving in the early 80's you always knew the police weren't far away. Not the case now! Not been to Bradford in a while to be honest…nearest I’ve been is probably Leeds…sounds like fun lol.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 11, 2022 15:51:55 GMT
First time I was in Kathmandu was a proper eye opener as never been outside typical holiday places in Europe before. On the trip from the airport the driver was going down completely the wrong side of the road completely head on with traffic and beeping like fuck like it was their fault only to come to a complete standstill for half an hour out of respect for a couple of cows sat in the middle of the road. Pulls up to a roundabout and see a lass with no helmet struggling to get up after a crash on their bike whilst the husband with his helmet still on bowls up to the taxi driver involved and Zidane head-butted him in the chest. The husband then walks back to the bike proud as punch arms folded waiting for his clearly injured wife, who is struggling to pick it back up, without even remotely looking like he is about to help her. Mentioned it to the lass who was co-ordinating the volunteers as a bit of an ice-breaker on getting to the hotel and straight off the bat she says ‘If you’re hit by a car and they start reversing they’re probably coming to finish you off so get out of the road!’ Under their law if you injured someone in a motor accident you had to pay their medical bills so it was cheaper to go to jail then bribe yourself out! Sounds familiar! In Pakistan many years ago, we were behind one of those very colourful trucks they have over there, painted like gypsy caravans most of them, on a standard two way road when the truck in front pulled out to overtake another truck. At which point our guy in a battered old Morris Minor taxi decided to overtake the truck overtaking the other one. We were basically three abreast about 50mph going down the road towards oncoming traffic, horns blaring noisily, food and other stalls on the dirt strip right next to the road. Eventually the first truck passed the last food stall and pulled onto the dirt strip, sending clouds of dust into the air, but letting the other trucker into his lane while we got past him. It was fucking mental. Their approach is basically inshallah - God's will if I die today. No, it fucking isn't, it's you driving 25 tonnes like a lunatic! You see this kind of stuff all over the place over there...
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 11, 2022 19:48:54 GMT
My uncle, from Liverpool and a long distance lorry driver, always said that drivers in Stoke were the worst and most inconsiderate he ever came across. That was back in the 1960s.
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Post by flash on Apr 13, 2022 22:49:25 GMT
Everyone’s pet hate who drives I’m sure but seems to be happening more & more especially drivers of “fast” cars think that when changing lanes it’s ok to manoeuvre/indicate/check mirrors (not) it’s ever likely we all suffer with high insurance with these idiots on our roads, happened to me twice on a500 just from stoke to Kidsgrove, just a short drive really!! I drive approx 40k miles a year in my job and I can honestly say that the driving standards in and around Stoke on Trent is one of the worst in the country. I regularly drive into places like London, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds etc and the drivers there are for more aware and courteous than in Stoke. Not sure why it’s so bad here…any suggestions? Staffordshire drivers are very good when compared with numptys around Bradford
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Post by flash on Apr 13, 2022 22:54:51 GMT
I drive approx 40k miles a year in my job and I can honestly say that the driving standards in and around Stoke on Trent is one of the worst in the country. I regularly drive into places like London, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds etc and the drivers there are for more aware and courteous than in Stoke. Not sure why it’s so bad here…any suggestions? Have you tried the Bradford area?! Many illegal and crazy drivers and the police are invisible. When I started driving in the early 80's you always knew the police weren't far away. Not the case now! I had not seen this when I posted the same
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Post by AlliG on Apr 14, 2022 10:47:07 GMT
I drive approx 40k miles a year in my job and I can honestly say that the driving standards in and around Stoke on Trent is one of the worst in the country. I regularly drive into places like London, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds etc and the drivers there are for more aware and courteous than in Stoke. Not sure why it’s so bad here…any suggestions? Staffordshire drivers are very good when compared with numptys around Bradford One or two evenings a week I drive to and from Wolverhampton. I always have to remind myself before I go that traffic lights in Wolverhampton are only for decoration and illumination and just occasionally an advisory warning.
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Post by steve66 on Apr 14, 2022 16:57:48 GMT
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Post by xchpotter on Apr 14, 2022 17:43:37 GMT
Wow, imagine my surprise at what make of car was being driven like that. Not sure what make of car was being driven by the filmer who was equally culpable in undertaking….possibly a Range Rover, or maybe that other famous German brand to give us a full house.
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Post by questionable on Apr 16, 2022 7:17:11 GMT
Speed limiters could be fitted to all new cars under government plans to fall in line with a controversial European Union ruling. Ministers are set to announce consultation on a range of vehicle safety measures that reduce engine power or set off alarms if drivers exceed the speed limit.
Now this is a joke surely??
I enjoy driving and love my cars, currently I have a very high powered top of its range highly tuned BMW, I don’t drink/smoke and work my nuts off work wise and cars is my go to thing.
It’s already electronically restricted top end speed wise and admittedly it’s hard to keep to the speed limits but obviously I do as I can also electronically set the speed to the area I’m in.
OFC I occasionally break the speed limit to get past idiots in the middle lanes or on a clear country lane, I’m a good driver and modern day cars are pretty much like steer me only with all the safety measures on board
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 16, 2022 7:23:08 GMT
Speed limiters could be fitted to all new cars under government plans to fall in line with a controversial European Union ruling. Ministers are set to announce consultation on a range of vehicle safety measures that reduce engine power or set off alarms if drivers exceed the speed limit. Now this is a joke surely?? I enjoy driving and love my cars, currently I have a very high powered top of its range highly tuned BMW, I don’t drink/smoke and work my nuts off work wise and cars is my go to thingIt’s already electronically restricted top end speed wise and admittedly it’s hard to keep to the speed limits but obviously I do as I can also electronically set the speed to the area I’m in. OFC I occasionally break the speed limit to get past idiots in the middle lanes or on a clear country lane, I’m a good driver and modern day cars are pretty much like steer me only with all the safety measures on board Absolutely bang on. My car is my escape from this shithole world we live in, what I do with it should be left up to me.
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Post by mutters on Apr 16, 2022 9:57:12 GMT
Some people might suggest conspiracy theory, but take a look around at the number of clean air zones that seem to have popped up
London, Birmingham and Bradford, and I sure there are more
All encouraging coercing the use of electric cars for your health - what could be the agenda here as the look to introduce speed limiters too?
The question should be asked to why?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 11:25:16 GMT
On occasions I drive into Staffordshire but as soon as you get into Stoke-On-Trent it’s like something from a Mad Max film with horrible snarling drivers right up your back side in their shitty old car trying to overtake you when you’re abiding to the given speed limit, right clampets in clampet cars. It’s not people in fast cars it’s just horrible clampets, some of the stuff I’ve witnessed is incredible, one bloke overtook me in zero visibility fog years ago, a mile down the road the car was on its roof, moron deserved it. Yep, people tend to blame fast cars so to speak for obvious reasons, the car stands out and jealousy in some quarters but more than often I find is just idiot drivers. Similar to yourself, years ago the A500 was sheet of ice and was doing no more than 5-10 like all the traffic, some guy in a Sierra overtook doing possibly 50 plus . Was impossible to control a car at 20 never mind that speed. Was in the middle of the road , upside down a mile or so further up. Had similar in fog also especially early morning driving home from Chester. vans in particular .
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Post by steve66 on Apr 16, 2022 13:45:45 GMT
On occasions I drive into Staffordshire but as soon as you get into Stoke-On-Trent it’s like something from a Mad Max film with horrible snarling drivers right up your back side in their shitty old car trying to overtake you when you’re abiding to the given speed limit, right clampets in clampet cars. It’s not people in fast cars it’s just horrible clampets, some of the stuff I’ve witnessed is incredible, one bloke overtook me in zero visibility fog years ago, a mile down the road the car was on its roof, moron deserved it. Yep, people tend to blame fast cars so to speak for obvious reasons, the car stands out and jealousy in some quarters but more than often I find is just idiot drivers. Similar to yourself, years ago the A500 was sheet of ice and was doing no more than 5-10 like all the traffic, some guy in a Sierra overtook doing possibly 50 plus . Was impossible to control a car at 20 never mind that speed. Was in the middle of the road , upside down a mile or so further up. Had similar in fog also especially early morning driving home from Chester. vans in particular . Completely agree! Yet again had an idiot in old hyundai cut in front of me tother day, no indicator, after watching the car constantly veering towards cars on their inside lane I just dropped back to let whoever get on with their shit driving, this on D road yet again. He/she either pissed or on mobile, I wasn’t going get too close to see!!
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 16, 2022 14:07:07 GMT
Interesting, amusing, and alarming posts, thanks.
I could write one of my infamous long posts but will spare you of that. I used to drive up to 40,000 miles pa.
But in my experience nothing compares with driving in India, not even Paris.
A few tips on India:
1. Apparently the cars stop working if you don't keep pressing the horn, or at least it seems like all Indians believe that.
2. Beware of driving down the outside lane of a motorway as you might suddenly meet a bicycle with up to 3 people on it riding towards you, who think it is a normal road.
3. Sometimes you experience the Blackpool big dipper effect; you can be travelling at 60 - 70 mph along a road and suddenly the tarmac stops and you drop off the made up road onto dirt track.
All makes for an interesting time. I have literally sat in the back of a taxi, curled up, praying to get safely to the destination.
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 16, 2022 14:17:36 GMT
I recall noticing a different protocol for traffic lights in Istanbul when I had the great pleasure to visit there quite frequently on business a good few years back..
Green… proceed Amber… proceed with caution Red… proceed as fast as fucking possible
Quite entertaining, if you could put to one side the distinct possibility of being wiped out at any moment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 14:26:04 GMT
Jakarta whichever side of the road available. Can remember being the sandwich in cars passing me on both sides from the opposite direction.
Had a woman on her phone go straight over a mini roundabout a few weeks ago. Amazingly saw her coming at speed and stopped and she went straight over not even realising she'd gone over a roundabout
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Post by questionable on Apr 16, 2022 14:35:06 GMT
Interesting, amusing, and alarming posts, thanks. I could write one of my infamous long posts but will spare you of that. I used to drive up to 40,000 miles pa. But in my experience nothing compares with driving in India, not even Paris. A few tips on India: 1. Apparently the cars stop working if you don't keep pressing the horn, or at least it seems like all Indians believe that. 2. Beware of driving down the outside lane of a motorway as you might suddenly meet a bicycle with up to 3 people on it riding towards you, who think it is a normal road. 3. Sometimes you experience the Blackpool big dipper effect; you can be travelling at 60 - 70 mph along a road and suddenly the tarmac stops and you drop off the made up road onto dirt track. All makes for an interesting time. I have literally sat in the back of a taxi, curled up, praying to get safely to the destination. Am I right in saying whilst driving on that massive roundabout on the Arc de Triomphe you’re not insured??
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 16, 2022 15:37:03 GMT
Interesting, amusing, and alarming posts, thanks. I could write one of my infamous long posts but will spare you of that. I used to drive up to 40,000 miles pa. But in my experience nothing compares with driving in India, not even Paris. A few tips on India: 1. Apparently the cars stop working if you don't keep pressing the horn, or at least it seems like all Indians believe that. 2. Beware of driving down the outside lane of a motorway as you might suddenly meet a bicycle with up to 3 people on it riding towards you, who think it is a normal road. 3. Sometimes you experience the Blackpool big dipper effect; you can be travelling at 60 - 70 mph along a road and suddenly the tarmac stops and you drop off the made up road onto dirt track. All makes for an interesting time. I have literally sat in the back of a taxi, curled up, praying to get safely to the destination. Am I right in saying whilst driving on that massive roundabout on the Arc de Triomphe you’re not insured?? I was in a taxi approaching that roundabout expecting to exit a road on the left. The driver approached on the extreme right lane and went right round the outside all the way round, sometimes using the little parking bays to drive round a stopped vehicles in the outside lane. On reflection I'm only surprised he didn't drive on the pavement!
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Post by lordb on Apr 16, 2022 16:50:00 GMT
Some people might suggest conspiracy theory, but take a look around at the number of clean air zones that seem to have popped up London, Birmingham and Bradford, and I sure there are more All encouraging coercing the use of electric cars for your health - what could be the agenda here as the look to introduce speed limiters too? The question should be asked to why? To have cleaner air?
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Post by questionable on Apr 18, 2022 19:46:25 GMT
Since the new laws came out basically saying cyclists don’t have to move over on the roads I’ve come across some right lunatics in my opinion taking the piss, for example I was behind a group of 4 cyclists this morning side by side having a lovely chin wag.
I was more than patient and waited for a broken white line in the road before overtaking.
Now in my opinion for a bike that probably averages 20 mph on a 60 mph road is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Apr 18, 2022 19:58:46 GMT
Since the new laws came out basically saying cyclists don’t have to move over on the roads I’ve come across some right lunatics in my opinion taking the piss, for example I was behind a group of 4 cyclists this morning side by side having a lovely chin wag. I was more than patient and waited for a broken white line in the road before overtaking. Now in my opinion for a bike that probably averages 20 mph on a 60 mph road is a disaster waiting to happen. Here in the States we have the well intended term "Share The Road" when it comes to bicycles and cars. Unfortunately, it seems from my observations only, that the cyclists think that the "share" part is only for the drivers. There are certainly some cyclists over here that have a death wish on a few busy roads and blind curves.
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 18, 2022 20:30:20 GMT
I’ve got a mate who I’m not sure how he passed his driving test as he’s a bit of a nervous driver outside anywhere he knows. In biddulph, mow cop tunstall, he’s great once he gets to the 500 he’s gone. He once got lost coming back from freeport to tunstall after he had gone deliver something for work. Our truck driver found him in Chesterton heading towards crackley uttering the Lord’s Prayer. He’s not much better as a passenger he can’t watch me drive as he panics as I’m much more confident and comfortable with gaps in traffic than him, at the kfc roundabout in sandyford one night he was looking at his phone sat in the front seat. I floored it in sport mode out on to the roundabout and cornered it quite smoothly but aggressively he looked up panicked and threw his phone into the air right towards the open window. Luckily it bounced back into the back seat with him quivering thinking it had gone out the window, in the same movement he had ripped out my sat nav and knocked that into my footwell. I had to carefully pull up and extradite it from behind my clutch so I could continue driving with him apologising and if memory serves almost sobbing. I also know a bloke who many years ago (at least 25) once answered a call on his mobile phone and proceeded to keep going around the roundabout by parkhouse industrial estate until he had finished it.
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Post by deeside2 on Apr 19, 2022 5:08:29 GMT
One of those "traffic calming" islands was installed on a street by a school not too far from our area a couple of months ago, as there have been numerous accidents in the past. There are large signs at either end clearly showing the direction of priority. The problem is that it's been installed too close to the school so every morning and afternoon the road is now completely blocked with vehicles dropping off or collecting their little darlings. So far there have been numerous accidents as vehicles try to squeeze through by the island so that their "little princess on board" doesn't have to walk more than a few yards to the school gates. It's utter chaos !
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 20, 2022 7:07:21 GMT
One of those "traffic calming" islands was installed on a street by a school not too far from our area a couple of months ago, as there have been numerous accidents in the past. There are large signs at either end clearly showing the direction of priority. The problem is that it's been installed too close to the school so every morning and afternoon the road is now completely blocked with vehicles dropping off or collecting their little darlings. So far there have been numerous accidents as vehicles try to squeeze through by the island so that their "little princess on board" doesn't have to walk more than a few yards to the school gates. It's utter chaos ! Another pointless traffic island installed in Plymouth couple of years ago….. Attachment Deleted
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Post by questionable on Apr 24, 2022 19:08:32 GMT
Driving related but robbing bastards 😡😡😡😡😡.
As if £490 for 12 months Road Tax isn’t bad enough I’ve just gone to Tax my car and it’s now £520, how do they get away with, Dick Turpin wore a mask at least to disguise himself😡😡😡😡😡
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 24, 2022 19:21:25 GMT
Interesting, amusing, and alarming posts, thanks. I could write one of my infamous long posts but will spare you of that. I used to drive up to 40,000 miles pa. But in my experience nothing compares with driving in India, not even Paris. A few tips on India: 1. Apparently the cars stop working if you don't keep pressing the horn, or at least it seems like all Indians believe that. 2. Beware of driving down the outside lane of a motorway as you might suddenly meet a bicycle with up to 3 people on it riding towards you, who think it is a normal road. 3. Sometimes you experience the Blackpool big dipper effect; you can be travelling at 60 - 70 mph along a road and suddenly the tarmac stops and you drop off the made up road onto dirt track. All makes for an interesting time. I have literally sat in the back of a taxi, curled up, praying to get safely to the destination. I prefer a tuk tuk, at least you can dive out of them. It is crazy but exhilarating at the same time
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 25, 2022 18:21:26 GMT
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Post by questionable on Apr 25, 2022 19:15:15 GMT
If they want the same rights as a car, that’s how they’re being classed now then they should pay road tax, insurance and take a test. Trying to be as patient as possible as there’s loads of bikes around here but they’re 3-4 abreast talking, swerving about dilly dally and yesterday’s mob of cyclists must have been 70 years of age plus. On a 60 mph road they’re doing max 20mph, now if I drove that slow and generally like a dick I’d be prosecuted.
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