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Post by FullerMagic on May 30, 2022 8:28:53 GMT
What about someone like Freddie Woodman? Did a good job as a young keeper at Swansea a couple of years ago. On loan at Bournemouth last season but didn’t start a game. Doubt he’ll be getting into the Newcastle team any time soon. www.dorset.live/sport/football/football-news/parker-admits-definite-possibility-bournemouth-6890381Reading this, there still seems to be a fair chance Bournemouth will sign him to compete with their keeper, Travers. And probably on a Prem contract we couldn't compete with - even if the fee was affordable. I haven't got a clue what we're thinking keeper-wise though. I don't think MON really fancies Bursik as someone who could be part of a promotion-challenging team (certainly at this stage of his career), and with only 12 months left on his deal, until he signs a new deal, there's going to be speculation when the only alternative is Bonham Just looking at what other Champ teams are linked with, keeper-wise. A few seem to be interested in Bazunu on loan from Man City who's done well on loan - but there may be Prem interest. Boro have been linked with Iversen ho did well at PNE, as well as Darlow from Newcastle. And the Birmingham fans raved about the Wolves u23 keeper, Sarkic, who was their player of the year, despite getting injured in January. Whether any of them are real upgrades, who knows? Because it's probably nominal fee or loan territory for any signing we're looking at.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 8:37:07 GMT
Birmingham Mail Villa reporter puts JPB in the list of players that may leave Villa permanently. Hard to see us being able to do anything permanently - or know what fee Villa would be looking for. www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfer-news-suarez-24071874Plenty of departures are on the agenda and have been for a while at Bodymoor Heath As mentioned, it appears the same for Sanson (2025) and Hause (2025), while Carney Chukwuemeka (2023), Bertrand Traore (2024) and Jaden Philogene-Bidace (2024) could all realistically call time on their careers in B6. That's disappointing news. I think he could be mustard in a 433 but he'll surely cost a few million. Fanciful I know but if Collins went to Villa they could give us JPB as our share of the fee. everybody happy you’d think.
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Post by LGH87 on May 30, 2022 8:44:54 GMT
That link seems to have JPB valued at £3m which may not be out of our reach based on past windows, especially if we manage to raise funds through sales. But spending a large fee on a player that doesn't suit our no.1 system would seem a bit ridiculous, however this is Stoke so I expect to see him holding the scarf in front of the Boothen within the week
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 8:51:22 GMT
That link seems to have JPB valued at £3m which may not be out of our reach based on past windows, especially if we manage to raise funds through sales. But spending a large fee on a player that doesn't suit our no.1 system would seem a bit ridiculous, however this is Stoke so I expect to see him holding the scarf in front of the Boothen within the week Right profile of player. Coaching and experience could well see a significant increase in value and would likely retain a lot of his value even if not a great fit. Sounds like exactly what we’d be likely to go for. Even though I agree with you he doesn’t seem to fit into the managers preferred system.
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Post by LGH87 on May 30, 2022 8:52:53 GMT
That link seems to have JPB valued at £3m which may not be out of our reach based on past windows, especially if we manage to raise funds through sales. But spending a large fee on a player that doesn't suit our no.1 system would seem a bit ridiculous, however this is Stoke so I expect to see him holding the scarf in front of the Boothen within the week Right profile of player. Coaching and experience could well see a significant increase in value and would likely retain a lot of his value even if not a great fit. Sounds like exactly what we’d be likely to go for. Even though I agree with you he doesn’t seem to fit into the managers preferred system. Yeah with the right coaching, system and a bit of luck he has all the raw ingredients to be a top top player, whether we're the club for him to do it at I'm not so sure. He'll probably be snapped up by one of the relegated teams and score 15 with 12 assists on their way to the title next season
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 8:54:54 GMT
Right profile of player. Coaching and experience could well see a significant increase in value and would likely retain a lot of his value even if not a great fit. Sounds like exactly what we’d be likely to go for. Even though I agree with you he doesn’t seem to fit into the managers preferred system. Yeah with the right coaching, system and a bit of luck he has all the raw ingredients to be a top top player, whether we're the club for him to do it at I'm not so sure. He'll probably be snapped up by one of the relegated teams and score 15 with 12 assists on their way to the title next season Whereas in our set up you just remove the 1’s before the 5&2.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 30, 2022 8:59:47 GMT
That link seems to have JPB valued at £3m which may not be out of our reach based on past windows, especially if we manage to raise funds through sales. But spending a large fee on a player that doesn't suit our no.1 system would seem a bit ridiculous, however this is Stoke so I expect to see him holding the scarf in front of the Boothen within the week Think that's just the random transfermarkt valuation, which are always ridiculous though. Having said that, I can't see it being any lower in his case, and that pretty much rules out the entire Championship unless someone sells someone for big money and wants to spend a chunk of it
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Post by theonlooker on May 30, 2022 9:02:03 GMT
Nailed on for Norwich...
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Post by mattythestokie on May 30, 2022 9:06:33 GMT
That's disappointing news. I think he could be mustard in a 433 but he'll surely cost a few million. Fanciful I know but if Collins went to Villa they could give us JPB as our share of the fee. everybody happy you’d think. Burnley pay the fee to us, not Villa.
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Post by gaznandi on May 30, 2022 9:15:26 GMT
Spurs fans seem to think that's about £19m too much.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 30, 2022 9:22:00 GMT
Yeah, the Smith link. Forgot that. Got to be a very good chance. Shame
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Post by nott1 on May 30, 2022 9:26:10 GMT
Spurs fans seem to think that's about £19m too much. It's the Wimmer effect!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 9:34:13 GMT
Fanciful I know but if Collins went to Villa they could give us JPB as our share of the fee. everybody happy you’d think. Burnley pay the fee to us, not Villa. That’s a very rigid interpretation of a situation, don’t you think they could make the deal anyway they wanted so long as all parties were agreeable? Newcastle were meant to pay Burnley in instalments for Wood but they entered into an agreement with some obscure financial company to get there hands on the money before it is due. Maybe you don’t think outside the box very often, try it you might like it. The box doesn’t really exist.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 9:36:57 GMT
Spurs fans seem to think that's about £19m too much. It's the Wimmer effect! It’s not it’s the Levy effect. If only we had one.
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Post by theonlooker on May 30, 2022 9:45:50 GMT
Yeah, the Smith link. Forgot that. Got to be a very good chance. Shame They'll have around that much to spend too.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 30, 2022 10:05:21 GMT
So that's why one of the first things MON did when he came in was to persuade the player who'd decided to leave, to sign a new contract, cos he doesn't rate him? I mean he had to play him because the other options were Lee Gregory and Sam Vokes. And a new contract could easily have been a club decision. I would hope the club would protect valuable assets like Campbell. I'm sure it was a club decision but my understanding is that he wasn't going to sign it until MON persuaded him. I have A friend who is Shrewsbury fan. He said Kevin Campbell used to sit among the fans at matches and was of the opinion that Tyrese felt he'd got to leave Stoke to get first team football and would look favourably on joining Shrewsbury.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 10:07:57 GMT
I mean he had to play him because the other options were Lee Gregory and Sam Vokes. And a new contract could easily have been a club decision. I would hope the club would protect valuable assets like Campbell. I'm sure it was a club decision but my understanding is that he wasn't going to sign it until MON persuaded him. I have A friend who is Shrewsbury fan. He said Kevin Campbell used to sit among the fans at matches and was of the opinion that Tyrese felt he'd got to leave Stoke to get first team football and would look favourably on joining Shrewsbury. Kevin Campbell saying things to please those around him at the time shocker.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 30, 2022 10:12:43 GMT
That link seems to have JPB valued at £3m which may not be out of our reach based on past windows, especially if we manage to raise funds through sales. But spending a large fee on a player that doesn't suit our no.1 system would seem a bit ridiculous, however this is Stoke so I expect to see him holding the scarf in front of the Boothen within the week Right profile of player. Coaching and experience could well see a significant increase in value and would likely retain a lot of his value even if not a great fit. Sounds like exactly what we’d be likely to go for. Even though I agree with you he doesn’t seem to fit into the managers preferred system. Did he show enough for that sort of fee last season? Not for me, I thought he looked really exciting at first but then disappointed when teams worked him out and he became a marked man. I'm surprised people think he's worth £3million but Maja isn't. I'd also be surprised if Gerrard was prepared to release him at 19/20 after everything he said about him. Think of the uproar on here when we released an older Porter who had shown far less.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 30, 2022 10:14:46 GMT
I'm sure it was a club decision but my understanding is that he wasn't going to sign it until MON persuaded him. I have A friend who is Shrewsbury fan. He said Kevin Campbell used to sit among the fans at matches and was of the opinion that Tyrese felt he'd got to leave Stoke to get first team football and would look favourably on joining Shrewsbury. Kevin Campbell saying things to please those around him at the time shocker. He didn't have to say that Tyrese didn't want to stay at Stoke just that he could join Shrewsbury if Stoke released him. That was more my point.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 10:20:31 GMT
Kevin Campbell saying things to please those around him at the time shocker. He didn't have to say that Tyrese didn't want to stay at Stoke just that he could join Shrewsbury if Stoke released him. That was more my point. I’m pretty sure he’d have been cringing inwardly at the mere notion of Ty joining Shrewsbury permanently but in that environment he’s hardly likely to say so is he.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 30, 2022 10:35:15 GMT
He didn't have to say that Tyrese didn't want to stay at Stoke just that he could join Shrewsbury if Stoke released him. That was more my point. I’m pretty sure he’d have been cringing inwardly at the mere notion of Ty joining Shrewsbury permanently but in that environment he’s hardly likely to say so is he. That doesn't have any bearing on my point that he said Ty would have to leave Stoke to get first team football (even if as you say it was a less than glamorous option to join a club in the lower leagues - I'm sure they would both have preferred him to succeed at Man City originally but that's another argument).
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Post by mattythestokie on May 30, 2022 10:48:48 GMT
Burnley pay the fee to us, not Villa. That’s a very rigid interpretation of a situation, don’t you think they could make the deal anyway they wanted so long as all parties were agreeable? Newcastle were meant to pay Burnley in instalments for Wood but they entered into an agreement with some obscure financial company to get there hands on the money before it is due. Maybe you don’t think outside the box very often, try it you might like it. The box doesn’t really exist. It’s how transfers tend to work. Hope you’re enjoying life outside the box though 👍
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 11:22:57 GMT
That’s a very rigid interpretation of a situation, don’t you think they could make the deal anyway they wanted so long as all parties were agreeable? Newcastle were meant to pay Burnley in instalments for Wood but they entered into an agreement with some obscure financial company to get there hands on the money before it is due. Maybe you don’t think outside the box very often, try it you might like it. The box doesn’t really exist. It’s how transfers tend to work. Hope you’re enjoying life outside the box though 👍 Definitely.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 12:07:10 GMT
Right profile of player. Coaching and experience could well see a significant increase in value and would likely retain a lot of his value even if not a great fit. Sounds like exactly what we’d be likely to go for. Even though I agree with you he doesn’t seem to fit into the managers preferred system. Did he show enough for that sort of fee last season? Not for me, I thought he looked really exciting at first but then disappointed when teams worked him out and he became a marked man. I'm surprised people think he's worth £3million but Maja isn't. I'd also be surprised if Gerrard was prepared to release him at 19/20 after everything he said about him. Think of the uproar on here when we released an older Porter who had shown far less. Neither really fits what we need. Given the choice I’d prefer to watch JPB but if I had to paint a word picture of what we need it wouldn’t resemble either of them but we do keep signing players that don’t have the attributes we’re crying out for so wouldn’t be surprised to see us bring in either. Particularly as the manager seems so keen on reassembling the squad he could not get a tune out of last season.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on May 30, 2022 14:09:58 GMT
Spurs fans seem to think that's about £19m too much. If we were still Premiership we would no doubt pay the fee & be a laughing stock....Spurs? Overblown fees? Surely not...
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 17:42:54 GMT
Spurs fans seem to think that's about £19m too much. If we were still Premiership we would no doubt pay the fee & be a laughing stock....Spurs? Overblown fees? Surely not... Levy would let us have him for £15M and we’d be convinced we’d negotiated hard and got a right bargain.
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Post by iglugluk on May 30, 2022 18:31:33 GMT
Did he show enough for that sort of fee last season? Not for me, I thought he looked really exciting at first but then disappointed when teams worked him out and he became a marked man. I'm surprised people think he's worth £3million but Maja isn't. I'd also be surprised if Gerrard was prepared to release him at 19/20 after everything he said about him. Think of the uproar on here when we released an older Porter who had shown far less. Neither really fits what we need. Given the choice I’d prefer to watch JPB but if I had to paint a word picture of what we need it wouldn’t resemble either of them but we do keep signing players that don’t have the attributes we’re crying out for so wouldn’t be surprised to see us bring in either. Particularly as the manager seems so keen on reassembling the squad he could not get a tune out of last season. He let 'Chezzie' and Fletcher go and he can't afford THB so, by hook or by crook he's simply going to have to change some things.. even if it seems he cannot recognise what an abject failure he oversaw last season. Exciting window ahead
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 30, 2022 18:57:21 GMT
Neither really fits what we need. Given the choice I’d prefer to watch JPB but if I had to paint a word picture of what we need it wouldn’t resemble either of them but we do keep signing players that don’t have the attributes we’re crying out for so wouldn’t be surprised to see us bring in either. Particularly as the manager seems so keen on reassembling the squad he could not get a tune out of last season. He let 'Chezzie' and Fletcher go and he can't afford THB so, by hook or by crook he's simply going to have to change some things.. even if it seems he cannot recognise what an abject failure he oversaw last season. Exciting window ahead Yeah ok. Sounds like you’ve got about as much faith in him getting it right as I have. Not quite zero but not much higher.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 30, 2022 19:09:41 GMT
Spurs fans seem to think that's about £19m too much. It's the Wimmer effect! Bet they are pissed the levy scholes sprbisl relationship is history they’d have got £25m with it in place
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 30, 2022 19:11:28 GMT
Normally you’d say a loan with an option or £1m now and another £3m if we get promoted but they’d just laugh at the last bit
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