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Post by mickstupp on May 29, 2022 11:14:52 GMT
I don’t buy that footballers down tools if they don’t like a manager. They are cheating themselves, the fans, and jeopardising their careers if they do that. Generally speaking, players are happy if they are playing, the skill is keeping the ones on the periphery happy. There’s numerous examples of clubs where that’s happened though. Chelsea and Leicester have done for at least a couple apiece that way. Sunderland and Di Canio is another one. They may well have been unhappy, I’m disputing the notion that they didn’t try or put in the required amount of effort on the field in order to oust a manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 11:32:09 GMT
Good at football though. And have got the medals to prove it. And it happens in normal life too. People will do their damndest to get a bad boss sacked: it’s human nature. I don’t buy that footballers down tools if they don’t like a manager. They are cheating themselves, the fans, and jeopardising their careers if they do that. Generally speaking, players are happy if they are playing, the skill is keeping the ones on the periphery happy. It’s happened loads of times.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 11:33:24 GMT
It was in speech marks so I interpreted that to have been an actual overheard or caught on camera exchange between the two. Why do people just make things up? Because they’re attention seeking pricks Another day, another Crouchpotato giving unnecessary abuse on here. Just stop it.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 29, 2022 11:41:44 GMT
Anyone watch the Wrexham v Grimsby game yesterday? As crazy as the game turned out to be I was really impressed with John McAtee of Grimsby. Granted, we don't exactly need a #10 with Powell here but at 22 years old I predict he'll move up a few levels for sure. Very similar to someone like James Maddison if I was to offer up a comparison.... but I've only seen him once 😂😂
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 29, 2022 11:43:37 GMT
One of the games towards the end of the season where Wilmot got back in the side, MON commented to him “you’ve played well in the middle today” to which Wilmot replied “funny thay considering it’s my position”. I’m not sure exactly what their relationship is like but I know Wilmot hated playing right back and there was a couple of occasions where the club/MON were saying Wilmot was injured or not fit enough to start when he in fact was. It wouldn’t surprise me if he’d be one that was available this summer, I’m not sure there’s a great deal of love between the two. Which I find mad, it’s just bizarre how our best defence was Ostigard, Souttar & Wilmot and MON actively ripped it up and started again in Jan. Does anyone like MON , it could obviously all be bollocks but there's a lot of noises knocking about with players not liking/getting on with him. “Stories” on the Oatcake?
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Post by theonlooker on May 29, 2022 11:51:28 GMT
Anyone watch the Wrexham v Grimsby game yesterday? As crazy as the game turned out to be I was really impressed with John McAtee of Grimsby. Granted, we don't exactly need a #10 with Powell here but at 22 years old I predict he'll move up a few levels for sure. Very similar to someone like James Maddison if I was to offer up a comparison.... but I've only seen him once 😂😂 We need a backup for Powell though and I've heard dafter suggestions.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 29, 2022 11:55:20 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 29, 2022 11:56:02 GMT
Anyone watch the Wrexham v Grimsby game yesterday? As crazy as the game turned out to be I was really impressed with John McAtee of Grimsby. Granted, we don't exactly need a #10 with Powell here but at 22 years old I predict he'll move up a few levels for sure. Very similar to someone like James Maddison if I was to offer up a comparison.... but I've only seen him once 😂😂 We need a backup for Powell though and I've heard dafter suggestions. Even if Grimsby get promoted I'd be suprised if a league 1 side didn't go in for him at least because he looked that much better than everyone else to me.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2022 12:06:35 GMT
Anyone watch the Wrexham v Grimsby game yesterday? As crazy as the game turned out to be I was really impressed with John McAtee of Grimsby. Granted, we don't exactly need a #10 with Powell here but at 22 years old I predict he'll move up a few levels for sure. Very similar to someone like James Maddison if I was to offer up a comparison.... but I've only seen him once 😂😂 We need a backup for Powell though and I've heard dafter suggestions. We've got Vrancic (unless he leaves) and it'd be mildly surprising if Sawyers didn't turn up before pre-season. I am intrigued by Sentinel suggestions of MON wanting to "tweak the balance of the midfield" though - as hard to see how that can happen with Allen, Baker and Powell all here and expecting 35+ starts. Just looking at the free agent midfielders. Josh Laurent? Massimo Luongo at Sheff Weds is quite rated too I think - and the other Reading midfielder, Rinomhota as well But hard to see any tweak coming if those 3 are in place, with Thompson, Sawyers (possibly/probably) and others already here too.
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Post by wilcopotter on May 29, 2022 12:20:51 GMT
More and more of the stories coming out about MON are just awful. So what allegedly are they then? Bayern, what are the alleged stories?
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 29, 2022 12:21:41 GMT
We need a backup for Powell though and I've heard dafter suggestions. We've got Vrancic (unless he leaves) and it'd be mildly surprising if Sawyers didn't turn up before pre-season. I am intrigued by Sentinel suggestions of MON wanting to "tweak the balance of the midfield" though - as hard to see how that can happen with Allen, Baker and Powell all here and expecting 35+ starts. Just looking at the free agent midfielders. Josh Laurent? Massimo Luongo at Sheff Weds is quite rated too I think - and the other Reading midfielder, Rinomhota as well But hard to see any tweak coming if those 3 are in place, with Thompson, Sawyers (possibly/probably) and others already here too. Probably wants to play Sawyers even further back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 12:28:00 GMT
So what allegedly are they then? Bayern, what are the alleged stories? Just of general unhappiness and the manager being irrational. And in some cases flat out not speaking to players.
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Post by gaznandi on May 29, 2022 12:48:18 GMT
We need a backup for Powell though and I've heard dafter suggestions. We've got Vrancic (unless he leaves) and it'd be mildly surprising if Sawyers didn't turn up before pre-season. I am intrigued by Sentinel suggestions of MON wanting to "tweak the balance of the midfield" though - as hard to see how that can happen with Allen, Baker and Powell all here and expecting 35+ starts. Just looking at the free agent midfielders. Josh Laurent? Massimo Luongo at Sheff Weds is quite rated too I think - and the other Reading midfielder, Rinomhota as well But hard to see any tweak coming if those 3 are in place, with Thompson, Sawyers (possibly/probably) and others already here too. I'm intrigued by Holden's comments that the way Coventry played against us is the way we want to play next season. That won't be with Allen and Sawyers will it?
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Post by chamberlain on May 29, 2022 12:55:39 GMT
When did he say that gaz
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Post by thevoid on May 29, 2022 13:40:08 GMT
Where has this MON to Wilmot conversation come from? Those voices in lookatmeoatcake’s head🙄 Well you won't hear voices, the happy clapping will drown them out fella
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Post by baystokie on May 29, 2022 16:15:31 GMT
Bayern, what are the alleged stories? Just of general unhappiness and the manager being irrational. And in some cases flat out not speaking to players. Depends on the source and the credence one can assign to them. Anyone can 'start' a rumour (as clickbait demonstrates) that soon becomes almost holy writ and accepted. The tales of 'general unhappiness' and their opinion of the manager and his man management should be consigned to the bin UNLESS and UNTIL their sources are prepared to go public. Only moral cowards hide behind anonymity.
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Post by gaznandi on May 29, 2022 16:31:43 GMT
"They have come up from a lower division, they have that real spirit and they have some top quality players too - they move the ball ever so well, and we just couldn’t match them in that regard in the first-half. “It is something we have spoken about because we want to play games in the same manner, and at times this season we have done that - but just nowhere near as consistent as we have wanted to be. “We will be looking to address out shortcomings this summer with our recruitment, so there is plenty to take from the season - both good and bad.”
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Post by wherty on May 29, 2022 16:33:01 GMT
Anyone watch the Wrexham v Grimsby game yesterday? As crazy as the game turned out to be I was really impressed with John McAtee of Grimsby. Granted, we don't exactly need a #10 with Powell here but at 22 years old I predict he'll move up a few levels for sure. Very similar to someone like James Maddison if I was to offer up a comparison.... but I've only seen him once 😂😂 Hughes only watched Imbula once.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 16:34:02 GMT
Does anyone like MON , it could obviously all be bollocks but there's a lot of noises knocking about with players not liking/getting on with him. “Stories” on the Oatcake? A lot of noises knocking about, stories coming out etc 😁. From folk on here who want him out. There simply aren't any . Player or two doesn't get on with manager shocker even if theyhad any substance
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 16:44:58 GMT
Just of general unhappiness and the manager being irrational. And in some cases flat out not speaking to players. Depends on the source and the credence one can assign to them. Anyone can 'start' a rumour (as clickbait demonstrates) that soon becomes almost holy writ and accepted. The tales of 'general unhappiness' and their opinion of the manager and his man management should be consigned to the bin UNLESS and UNTIL their sources are prepared to go public. Only moral cowards hide behind anonymity. Or people that want to keep their job.
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Post by apb1 on May 29, 2022 17:11:44 GMT
Love a transfer thread where 9 out of 10 posts are about the manager 🙁
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 29, 2022 17:22:57 GMT
"They have come up from a lower division, they have that real spirit and they have some top quality players too - they move the ball ever so well, and we just couldn’t match them in that regard in the first-half. “It is something we have spoken about because we want to play games in the same manner, and at times this season we have done that - but just nowhere near as consistent as we have wanted to be. “We will be looking to address out shortcomings this summer with our recruitment, so there is plenty to take from the season - both good and bad.” They need to stop speaking about things and get them to actually do it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 17:23:05 GMT
Love a transfer thread where 9 out of 10 posts are about the manager 🙁 The manager is the biggest issue and that affects transfers.
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Post by ravey123 on May 29, 2022 17:31:42 GMT
That Jon Russell who came of for Huddersfield had a touch of the N’Zonzi about him.
He played in a back 3 but I reckon he’d make a bloody good marauding midfielder - go get him.
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Post by David Brent on May 29, 2022 17:33:47 GMT
That Jon Russell who came of for Huddersfield had a touch of the N’Zonzi about him. He played in a back 3 but I reckon he’d make a bloody good marauding midfielder - go get him. You talk as if this club has any attraction these days
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Post by apb1 on May 29, 2022 17:35:14 GMT
Love a transfer thread where 9 out of 10 posts are about the manager 🙁 The manager is the biggest issue and that affects transfers. There’s a 6,425 page thread about him somewhere and you could link him to all other threads if that’s your argument, but sure, go on. I’m after exciting links with players I’ve never heard of here 😂
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Post by wilcopotter on May 29, 2022 17:39:41 GMT
Bayern, what are the alleged stories? Just of general unhappiness and the manager being irrational. And in some cases flat out not speaking to players. Thought so, no stories with any substance. You said earlier the stories coming out are just awful, now it seems to be just “general” unhappiness. Sounds like more unfounded bollox to me mate.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 18:31:02 GMT
Just of general unhappiness and the manager being irrational. And in some cases flat out not speaking to players. Thought so, no stories with any substance. You said earlier the stories coming out are just awful, now it seems to be just “general” unhappiness. Sounds like more unfounded bollox to me mate. Absolutely Wilco. As a few know, I know one ex player under MON, neighbour and used to chat every couple of weeks, less so no now as rarely see him but all this stuff is nonsense and one person's agenda. One player had a serious fall out but the player's fault and another had issues as all players do with managers. All this stories coming out stuff is absolute rubbish.
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Post by clarkeda on May 29, 2022 18:32:16 GMT
We need a backup for Powell though and I've heard dafter suggestions. We've got Vrancic (unless he leaves) and it'd be mildly surprising if Sawyers didn't turn up before pre-season. I am intrigued by Sentinel suggestions of MON wanting to "tweak the balance of the midfield" though - as hard to see how that can happen with Allen, Baker and Powell all here and expecting 35+ starts. Just looking at the free agent midfielders. Josh Laurent? Massimo Luongo at Sheff Weds is quite rated too I think - and the other Reading midfielder, Rinomhota as well But hard to see any tweak coming if those 3 are in place, with Thompson, Sawyers (possibly/probably) and others already here too. Racking my brains as to why this name rang a bell. Campbell seems really close to this guy from their time at Shrewsbury, whether that works for us or against us if you listen to some of the stories on here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2022 18:49:04 GMT
Thought so, no stories with any substance. You said earlier the stories coming out are just awful, now it seems to be just “general” unhappiness. Sounds like more unfounded bollox to me mate. Absolutely Wilco. As a few know, I know one ex player under MON, neighbour and used to chat every couple of weeks, less so no now as rarely see him but all this stuff is nonsense and one person's agenda. One player had a serious fall out but the player's fault and another had issues as all players do with managers. All this stories coming out stuff is absolute rubbish. I mean apart from there’s other posters saying things and todays came from another poster. 😂😂 And youve just added to it by saying two players have fallen out with him 😂😂😂🤷♂️
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