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Post by spitthedog on Mar 17, 2022 10:26:51 GMT
Rate him or not, take Tymon's assists and attacking intent out of this season and we'd be staring League One in the face. He's the least of our problems imho. It was the same with McClean, we needed his assists too but he wasn't good enough either was he. They are so uncannily similar, equally limited though capable of the odd killer ball every half a dozen games. The reason why Tymon has assists is because we use as our main attacking option virtually every game. It's also one of the reasons our opponents can manage us so easily.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Mar 17, 2022 10:32:22 GMT
Don't disagree, but think he's got more in his locker than Macca tbh. I'd like to see him wide left, with a proper left back behind him so he doesn't have to worry about the ball played in the channel behind him.
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Post by sd22 on Mar 17, 2022 10:36:12 GMT
Tom Edwards is one of the best crossers of the ball I’ve seen at the club. Yet we send him to the US again and rely on Tymon running down the wing all game.
Imagine Liverpool with just one of Robertson or TAA - wouldn’t work as well would it?
Threat needs to come from both sides with security and creativity from the midfield. At present we’ve got threat coming from one side, so the opposition overload that side. We’ve got no security in the middle, so once our attack is smothered, they overload the midfield knowing we have no steel and they will win all second balls.
On the odd occasion we do win the second ball, we have no movement up top, have to wait for Tymon to run back up front from full back, then our midfield can’t pass wind anyhow.
Odd how every opposition manager can see this, but Mick can’t.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 17, 2022 10:39:14 GMT
I’d Keep Bursik - still young just needs his confidence rebuilding. Wilmot - He’s been messed around too much. Has ability. Souter - Great player. Huge loss. Tymon - Decent but inconsistent. Baker - class Allen - on a reduced contract Wright Phillips - Has been under used recently Powell - Though his injuries are becoming very frustrating. Campbell - Needs a pre season and needs to lose weight Brown - As an impact sub WILMOT HAS ABILITY... ARE YOU BLIND!!!!! Do you have to shout all the time because someone doesn't agree with you? You bellend.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 10:39:27 GMT
Fuck sake this board is a joke just like our team to say Tymon is wank when he's been one of our players of the season is laughable. If Baker has a bad game on Saturday it will be his turn to be fucked off next lol Trouble is Tymon can only play as a wingback. He can't defend in a four and he doesn't have the ball skills to be a winger or wide forward. We can't just shoehorn him in when we are not playing with wingbacks because he is a good egg.
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Post by samba :) on Mar 17, 2022 11:09:17 GMT
he’s good going forward and he’s obviously cares. I’d consider trying him as a winger, defensively I don’t think he’s good enough
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 17, 2022 11:12:16 GMT
Tymon frustrates me. He becomes like a 10 year old when Campbell plays - just looks to pass to his bestie and ignores the correct pass.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 17, 2022 11:13:16 GMT
Rate him or not, take Tymon's assists and attacking intent out of this season and we'd be staring League One in the face. He's the least of our problems imho. It was the same with McClean, we needed his assists too but he wasn't good enough either was he. They are so uncannily similar, equally limited though capable of the odd killer ball every half a dozen games. The reason why Tymon has assists is because we use as our main attacking option virtually every game. It's also one of the reasons our opponents can manage us so easily. McLean's crossing was abysmal.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Mar 17, 2022 11:17:39 GMT
I’d Keep Bursik - still young just needs his confidence rebuilding. Wilmot - He’s been messed around too much. Has ability. Souter - Great player. Huge loss. Tymon - Decent but inconsistent. Baker - class Allen - on a reduced contract Wright Phillips - Has been under used recently Powell - Though his injuries are becoming very frustrating. Campbell - Needs a pre season and needs to lose weight Brown - As an impact sub WILMOT HAS ABILITY... ARE YOU BLIND!!!!! The ability to give the ball away all the fucking time that is
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Post by hyaduck on Mar 17, 2022 13:06:44 GMT
WILMOT HAS ABILITY... ARE YOU BLIND!!!!! Do you have to shout all the time because someone doesn't agree with you? You bellend. NO. ITS MR BELLEND TO YOU!!!!!!!!!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 17, 2022 19:53:02 GMT
Do you have to shout all the time because someone doesn't agree with you? You bellend. NO. ITS MR BELLEND TO YOU!!!!!!!!! Very well Mr bellend 😁
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Mar 17, 2022 20:27:25 GMT
If he can learn how to run and look up occasionally he might stand a chance. Oh behave, hyper-criticism from one game.
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Post by lordb on Mar 17, 2022 20:52:51 GMT
I’d Keep Bursik - still young just needs his confidence rebuilding. Wilmot - He’s been messed around too much. Has ability. Souter - Great player. Huge loss. Tymon - Decent but inconsistent. Baker - class Allen - on a reduced contract Wright Phillips - Has been under used recently Powell - Though his injuries are becoming very frustrating. Campbell - Needs a pre season and needs to lose weight Brown - As an impact sub WILMOT HAS ABILITY... ARE YOU BLIND!!!!! Not blind nor deaf pleas stop SHOUTING!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 10:16:26 GMT
If he can learn how to run and look up occasionally he might stand a chance. He reminds me a bit of Erik Peters puts loads of crosses in the box but they’re all wank. And now playing at a higher level
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 18, 2022 11:22:07 GMT
Out of the current squad:
Bursik Souttar Jagielka (we need an old hand, but we need to not have to rely on them) Wilmot Tymon Baker Thompson Vrancic (sub) Powell Campbell Brown
Add to that players on loan like Taylor and Forrester who should be coming in.
I actually think it's mad that we have half a squad out of contract at the same time. I'm honestly not surprised that we are playing so poorly.
One player may play for that contract, but half a squad in the same situation must lead to some regular, negative conversations.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 18, 2022 11:23:54 GMT
Rate him or not, take Tymon's assists and attacking intent out of this season and we'd be staring League One in the face. He's the least of our problems imho. It was the same with McClean, we needed his assists too but he wasn't good enough either was he. They are so uncannily similar, equally limited though capable of the odd killer ball every half a dozen games. The reason why Tymon has assists is because we use as our main attacking option virtually every game. It's also one of the reasons our opponents can manage us so easily. Tymon plays a killer ball almost every game and his crosses don't hit the corner flag every other attempt. He's also 23 not 32. One was going downhill quickly, the other is 3-4 years away from their peaks are is already comfortable in this league.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 11:33:32 GMT
Tom Edwards is one of the best crossers of the ball I’ve seen at the club. Yet we send him to the US again and rely on Tymon running down the wing all game. Imagine Liverpool with just one of Robertson or TAA - wouldn’t work as well would it? Threat needs to come from both sides with security and creativity from the midfield. At present we’ve got threat coming from one side, so the opposition overload that side. We’ve got no security in the middle, so once our attack is smothered, they overload the midfield knowing we have no steel and they will win all second balls. On the odd occasion we do win the second ball, we have no movement up top, have to wait for Tymon to run back up front from full back, then our midfield can’t pass wind anyhow. Odd how every opposition manager can see this, but Mick can’t. Seriously? Edwards couldn't cross a road. The game v Boro was the worst example of crossing I think have ever seen. Cars on the A50 were under more threat than the Boro penalty area
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Post by sd22 on Mar 18, 2022 12:23:27 GMT
Tom Edwards is one of the best crossers of the ball I’ve seen at the club. Yet we send him to the US again and rely on Tymon running down the wing all game. Imagine Liverpool with just one of Robertson or TAA - wouldn’t work as well would it? Threat needs to come from both sides with security and creativity from the midfield. At present we’ve got threat coming from one side, so the opposition overload that side. We’ve got no security in the middle, so once our attack is smothered, they overload the midfield knowing we have no steel and they will win all second balls. On the odd occasion we do win the second ball, we have no movement up top, have to wait for Tymon to run back up front from full back, then our midfield can’t pass wind anyhow. Odd how every opposition manager can see this, but Mick can’t. Seriously? Edwards couldn't cross a road. The game v Boro was the worst example of crossing I think have ever seen. Cars on the A50 were under more threat than the Boro penalty area You think? I’ve seen him put a plethora of good balls into the box, only for our strikers to hobble in the 18 years box 5 seconds too late. As is the case with Tymons ‘shite’ crosses, and McCleans. Also the reason why for years our wingers have had to cut back and run inside, losing possession. I’m sensing a theme here. Don’t worry, I’m sure Wilmot, Duhaney and Smith are much better crossers of the ball👍🏻
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 12:33:38 GMT
Seriously? Edwards couldn't cross a road. The game v Boro was the worst example of crossing I think have ever seen. Cars on the A50 were under more threat than the Boro penalty area You think? I’ve seen him put a plethora of good balls into the box, only for our strikers to hobble in the 18 years box 5 seconds too late. As is the case with Tymons ‘shite’ crosses, and McCleans. Also the reason why for years our wingers have had to cut back and run inside, losing possession. I’m sensing a theme here. Don’t worry, I’m sure Wilmot, Duhaney and Smith are much better crossers of the ball👍🏻 . In other words someone else's fault his crosses constantly over hit or went out for a goal kick. Love the term plethora 😄.... Bottom line is his completely wayward crosses were down to other player.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 12:35:55 GMT
I’d Keep Bursik - still young just needs his confidence rebuilding. Wilmot - He’s been messed around too much. Has ability. Souter - Great player. Huge loss. Tymon - Decent but inconsistent. Baker - class Allen - on a reduced contract Wright Phillips - Has been under used recently Powell - Though his injuries are becoming very frustrating. Campbell - Needs a pre season and needs to lose weight Brown - As an impact sub All of the above expect Allen and Powell, Allen is too much a part of the furniture and not any younger and Powell is inconsistent through injury.
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Post by sd22 on Mar 18, 2022 12:53:14 GMT
You think? I’ve seen him put a plethora of good balls into the box, only for our strikers to hobble in the 18 years box 5 seconds too late. As is the case with Tymons ‘shite’ crosses, and McCleans. Also the reason why for years our wingers have had to cut back and run inside, losing possession. I’m sensing a theme here. Don’t worry, I’m sure Wilmot, Duhaney and Smith are much better crossers of the ball👍🏻 . In other words someone else's fault his crosses constantly over hit or went out for a goal kick. Love the term plethora 😄.... Bottom line is his completely wayward crosses were down to other player. Or hit the right position and our constant stream of donkeys did nothing with it. I seem to remember a match (forget against who) two pinpoint crosses, actually players there to meet them, but they can’t run a line, and were flagged offside. Either way, without two good crossers of the ball, whether that be Tymon and Edwards, or a combination of others, we will continue to be stifled in every game. Yet the manager (and previous to his credit) have failed to address this.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2022 12:58:12 GMT
It was the same with McClean, we needed his assists too but he wasn't good enough either was he. They are so uncannily similar, equally limited though capable of the odd killer ball every half a dozen games. The reason why Tymon has assists is because we use as our main attacking option virtually every game. It's also one of the reasons our opponents can manage us so easily. McLean's crossing was abysmal. Yet McClean was far more successful with assists and goals than Tymon. I made the point earlier that he is younger so there is the possibility of development, and that is the only hope if we can get a decent coach to work with him. Needs to rethink lots in his game though.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 18, 2022 20:22:39 GMT
It's a shit plan. We would not be allowed to take part in any games.
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Post by a on Mar 18, 2022 20:26:28 GMT
Baker & Wright Philips are the only 2 players I would have at the club next season, who played tonight, Add to those 2, Souttar of course. The rest can do one and go stink some other club out. I don’t think the EFL would allow it.
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