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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 22, 2022 16:06:06 GMT
Getting a move to his level. Joe Allen is barely even bench fodder in that league.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 23, 2022 10:32:32 GMT
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/how-swansea-city-can-actually-24033632As things stand, and despite the rumblings of speculation, Swansea are yet to make any sort of concrete offer for Allen. Indeed, at the time of writing, it seems the only offer on the table is from current club Stoke City, who are clearly keen on keeping the midfielder for another season at least.
There's no shortage of other suitors should the Potters and Allen decide to part ways. As well as Swansea, he is understood to have attracted interest from around a dozen other clubs, including two Premier League sides (believed to be Bournemouth and Fulham), as well as a few from abroad.
Such competition will understandably leave many pessimistic about the possibility of getting a move done. But Allen himself is understood to be open to a return, providing that it's on the right terms. It means Swansea don't necessarily have to offer a more financially lucrative package than the others, but they will need to remain competitive if there is to be any hope of a move materialising.
An exact figure isn't clear at this stage, but it's understood that Allen would likely be seeking a wage comparable to other first- team stars, such as skipper Matt Grimes, who signed a new deal earlier in the season amid keen interest from Fulham.
Last season is only now starting to disappear from the rearview mirror, but there are already doubts over whether Swansea are capable of putting such a package together. Indeed, there seems to be a lack of clarity over what sort of budget Martin himself will be working with this summer, and that could well prove costly.
With that in mind, it's difficult not to get the distinct feeling that Swansea's window will largely be defined by departures.
Joel Piroe is an obvious one as he's by far the most valuable asset in this team - the sort of player whose departure could perhaps help bankroll a few arrivals, including Allen.
But there are others.
Letting go of the likes of Jay Fulton and Liam Walsh would also certainly go some way to enhancing Swansea's chances. Neither player is really likely to be a part of Martin's plans, and Allen will certainly be seen as a tidy upgrade.
Letting those two would likely dramatically improve Swansea's chances, but finding a suitor for either player will be easier said than done. Even if they do find a willing buyer for either player, a deal will likely take time to finalise. Martin himself has hinted that a departure or two could help to grease the wheels, although clearly even in that scenario, the Swans would largely be banking on Allen sticking around.
Despite the complexities involved, Martin's enthusiasm for bringing Allen on board is clearly still there, although judging by his latest comments, he might just be a little more pessimistic about whether a deal can get done.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 23, 2022 10:43:52 GMT
Premier League interest my arse.
See you next season Joe 🙄
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 23, 2022 23:40:54 GMT
Premier League interest my arse. See you next season Joe 🙄 His agent is trying his best to shift him isn’t he 😂
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Post by mowlee on May 24, 2022 6:34:17 GMT
I don’t get high earning footballers.. joe has been on 50k a week with us for 6 years.. so that’s about 14 million.. wouldn’t u want too play for your home town club for next too nothing.. an that’s without the money from his Liverpool an Swansea days!! Little old joe is quite a greedy human
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Post by wherty on May 24, 2022 6:43:41 GMT
I don’t get high earning footballers.. joe has been on 50k a week with us for 6 years.. so that’s about 14 million.. wouldn’t u want too play for your home town club for next too nothing.. an that’s without the money from his Liverpool an Swansea days!! Little old joe is quite a greedy human No one actually knows apart from Joe what he wants and what he plans to do. It's not all just about money, there are other things for him to consider too. In Joe's head his future is possibly 80% made up and just loose ends to tie up, his immediate concentration is the upcoming international game.
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Post by gingerninja on May 24, 2022 6:47:46 GMT
Which is what exactly Wherty?. Is he leaning towards staying or going?. Do you agree or midfield could do with a bit of freshening up?.
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Post by mowlee on May 24, 2022 6:52:44 GMT
I don’t get high earning footballers.. joe has been on 50k a week with us for 6 years.. so that’s about 14 million.. wouldn’t u want too play for your home town club for next too nothing.. an that’s without the money from his Liverpool an Swansea days!! Little old joe is quite a greedy human No one actually knows apart from Joe what he wants and what he plans to do. It's not all just about money, there are other things for him to consider too. In Joe's head his future is possibly 80% made up and just loose ends to tie up, his immediate concentration is the upcoming international game. obviously he’s trying too get as much money as he can out of Swansea
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Post by wherty on May 24, 2022 6:58:58 GMT
Not necessarily.
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Post by mowlee on May 24, 2022 7:06:57 GMT
well if he wasn’t an say we offered something around 20k a week surely he would of signed for us by now
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 24, 2022 7:52:46 GMT
No one actually knows apart from Joe what he wants and what he plans to do. It's not all just about money, there are other things for him to consider too. In Joe's head his future is possibly 80% made up and just loose ends to tie up, his immediate concentration is the upcoming international game. obviously he’s trying too get as much money as he can out of Swansea Isn’t that the whole point of employment?
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Post by mowlee on May 24, 2022 8:49:25 GMT
obviously he’s trying too get as much money as he can out of Swansea Isn’t that the whole point of employment? for working class people yeah.. but isn’t 50k a week for 6 years not enough money.. should have 10 million plus in the bank.. I would think money would be irrelevant if u had that kind of money!! If I had that kind of money I would play for my hometown club for free at the end of my career
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Post by scfc75 on May 24, 2022 8:51:18 GMT
obviously he’s trying too get as much money as he can out of Swansea Isn’t that the whole point of employment? I doubt many on here would act any differently. I know I wouldn’t, especially in a career that ends 20+ years before most others. If he’s trying to get the absolute maximum £ he can, then good on him. I’d do the same.
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Post by scfc75 on May 24, 2022 8:55:45 GMT
Isn’t that the whole point of employment? for working class people yeah.. but isn’t 50k a week for 6 years not enough money.. should have 10 million plus in the bank.. I would think money would be irrelevant if u had that kind of money!! If I had that kind of money I would play for my hometown club for free at the end of my career How would he have £10m in the bank? £50k x 52 weeks x 6 = £15.6m before tax, after tax it’s closer to £8.5m and that’s assuming he doesn’t spend a penny in that 6 years. He’d be lucky to even have half of that saved. He may well have several million banked but that’s got to last him the rest of his life as his earnings will significantly drop once he’s retired.
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Post by mowlee on May 24, 2022 8:56:39 GMT
for working class people yeah.. but isn’t 50k a week for 6 years not enough money.. should have 10 million plus in the bank.. I would think money would be irrelevant if u had that kind of money!! If I had that kind of money I would play for my hometown club for free at the end of my career How would he have £10m in the bank? £50k x 52 weeks x 6 = £15.6m before tax, after tax it’s closer to £8.5m and that’s assuming he doesn’t spend a penny in that 6 years. He’d be lucky to even have half of that saved. He may well have several million banked but that’s got to last him the rest of his life as his earnings will significantly drop once he’s retired. whatever it’s still millions.. was at Liverpool for a couple of seasons aswell don’t forget
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 24, 2022 8:56:50 GMT
Isn’t that the whole point of employment? for working class people yeah.. but isn’t 50k a week for 6 years not enough money.. should have 10 million plus in the bank.. I would think money would be irrelevant if u had that kind of money!! If I had that kind of money I would play for my hometown club for free at the end of my career I have a lot less than that and decided it was enough so stopped working. Didn’t for a minute think of going back to Longton to work for nothing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 8:58:53 GMT
Isn’t that the whole point of employment? I doubt many on here would act any differently. I know I wouldn’t, especially in a career that ends 20+ years before most others. If he’s trying to get the absolute maximum £ he can, then good on him. I’d do the same. The only time I have an issue with this is someone like Mbappe. He could have got the sameish amount of money at a bigger club and won more. That I don’t get. Allen trying to get create a bigger pension pot at the end of his career makes total sense.
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Post by lordb on May 24, 2022 9:12:46 GMT
I doubt many on here would act any differently. I know I wouldn’t, especially in a career that ends 20+ years before most others. If he’s trying to get the absolute maximum £ he can, then good on him. I’d do the same. The only time I have an issue with this is someone like Mbappe. He could have got the sameish amount of money at a bigger club and won more. That I don’t get. Allen trying to get create a bigger pension pot at the end of his career makes total sense. Real Madrid failed to secure either Mbappe or Haaland, something not right there?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 9:33:24 GMT
The only time I have an issue with this is someone like Mbappe. He could have got the sameish amount of money at a bigger club and won more. That I don’t get. Allen trying to get create a bigger pension pot at the end of his career makes total sense. Real Madrid failed to secure either Mbappe or Haaland, something not right there? I think they just got played by Mbappe didn't they? They fully expected him to join so didn't go for Haaland. Over confident? Yes. But can see why they did it. Of course if that was Scholes getting played like that. I'd be fuming
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Post by monkeycat on May 24, 2022 10:27:26 GMT
I think Allen will stay
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Post by gingerninja on May 24, 2022 10:30:04 GMT
This will now be 2 season on the trot where we have had the chance to freshen our midfield and get a better balance, yet we appear not to have and going with the same old same old.
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Post by iamstokie on May 24, 2022 10:33:13 GMT
Isn’t that the whole point of employment? for working class people yeah.. but isn’t 50k a week for 6 years not enough money.. should have 10 million plus in the bank.. I would think money would be irrelevant if u had that kind of money!! If I had that kind of money I would play for my hometown club for free at the end of my career How would he , he would have paid nearly half of it in tax , plus living expenses
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Post by FullerMagic on May 24, 2022 10:33:42 GMT
So do I - which makes it hard to see anything other than Allen, Baker, Powell being the three in the bulk of games. It's then hard to see us having the space to bring in anyone else to offer us some more balance in there, either on the pitch or financially - especially with Vrancic still here, and Sawyers maybe (probably?) on the way too All seems a bit stale, but hopefully at least we can move Clucas on as he enters his final 12 months. Where are we expecting the big changes to impact the starting XI - will a new RB/RWB and target man really cut it as game-changing?
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 24, 2022 10:43:43 GMT
So do I - which makes it hard to see anything other than Allen, Baker, Powell being the three in the bulk of games. It's then hard to see us having the space to bring in anyone else to offer us some more balance in there, either on the pitch or financially - especially with Vrancic still here, and Sawyers maybe (probably?) on the way too All seems a bit stale, but hopefully at least we can move Clucas on as he enters his final 12 months. Where are we expecting the big changes to impact the starting XI - will a new RB/RWB and target man really cut it as game-changing? If Souttar and Campbell come back fit and firing, yes.
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Post by questionable on May 24, 2022 10:56:19 GMT
I hope not, for once can’t we look forward rather than backwards, without doubt it’ll be a case of we’re OK as we are. With this clown in charge of recruitment it’s a bleak future with his planning, no accountability whatsoever with these owners.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 24, 2022 11:05:38 GMT
Allen is clearly staying.
No other bugger is daft enough to take him hence the real push in the press from his agents to try and drum something.
The only idiot in town is MON.
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Post by robrigo on May 24, 2022 11:10:47 GMT
Exciting times. More of the same next season I expect.
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Post by scfc75 on May 24, 2022 11:25:50 GMT
How would he have £10m in the bank? £50k x 52 weeks x 6 = £15.6m before tax, after tax it’s closer to £8.5m and that’s assuming he doesn’t spend a penny in that 6 years. He’d be lucky to even have half of that saved. He may well have several million banked but that’s got to last him the rest of his life as his earnings will significantly drop once he’s retired. whatever it’s still millions.. was at Liverpool for a couple of seasons aswell don’t forget Absolutely. But for the rest of his life he’s going to want a standard of living similar to the one that he enjoys now. He’s not going to earn £50k a week once he retires but likewise he’s not going to sell up and go live in a 3 bed detached on Meir Park either. So he will want to earn as much as he can now, to give himself a comfortable and comparable life. And why shouldn’t he?
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Post by gingerninja on May 24, 2022 11:36:34 GMT
Extremely depressing this close season, sounds as if out misfiring midfield will be in situ again come the season start😞
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Post by scfcno1fan on May 24, 2022 11:41:25 GMT
Three year contract incoming?
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