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Post by FullerMagic on May 13, 2022 17:20:14 GMT
This all sounds very fishy - straight from Wee Joe's agent trying to get Swansea to put something on the table? www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/premier-league-duo-spanish-clubs-23954639Swansea City face competition from two Premier League clubs for Joe Allen's signature this summer. Sources have indicated that newly-promoted duo Fulham and Bournemouth have joined the long list of teams casting an eye over the midfielder, with as many as four clubs in Spain also believed to have taken an interest.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 13, 2022 17:22:20 GMT
4 teams from Spain?
At what level?!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 13, 2022 17:28:44 GMT
I’m just pleased they’re really trying to get him moved. Hopefully that reputation comes through
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 13, 2022 17:35:32 GMT
4 teams from Spain? At what level?! Probably looking bottom end of La Liga. Joselu is quite a big thing at Alaves so he may have been sounded out over a potential move that way. Granada chucking money at past-it former internationals. And Espanyol have signed a couple of players based entirely on reputation under the new Chinese owners. Valencia again love an overrated former international and have a few PL links in the squad at the minute. He seems to have a better reputation globally than I think we can all agree he deserves based on what we’ve seen of him. He’ll get a top flight gig I’d imagine somewhere.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 14, 2022 8:32:51 GMT
The more I think of it the less sad I am to see him go actually. More useful players out there that are cheaper as well in my opinion.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 14, 2022 10:12:24 GMT
4 teams from Spain? At what level?! Is Spain closer to Pembrokeshire than Stone?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2022 14:51:24 GMT
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joe-allen-swansea-city-latest-23959363Sources inside the club have previously indicated that talks over a possible move had already begun, but while initial conversations have indeed happened, sources close to the player claim there is nothing tangible on the table from the Swans, or indeed any other club, at this stage.
Without meaning to state the obvious, Swansea need to make a suitable offer. Allen is certainly open to the idea of a return to his boyhood club, and would perhaps be tempted to turn down better financial offers in favour of a homecoming. But Swansea, or indeed anyone else, will still need to offer something competitive.
Allen is likely to be pondering plenty of offers this summer. Two Premier League clubs, believed to be Bournemouth and Fulham, have seemingly shown an interest, although it's admittedly difficult to see where a 32-year-old Joe Allen would fit in with either side. Indeed, one would think that for all his talents and experience, it's perhaps unlikely that he would be considered first choice at either club.
Clubs in the Championship are understandably keen too, while there is even interest from abroad, with four or five Spanish clubs believed to have made contact, and Allen himself is understood to be open to starting a new adventure on the continent.
Having now sat down with Stoke, it's possible that some of those options might well be discussed further over the next week or so.
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Post by peterthornesboots on May 14, 2022 15:01:57 GMT
I like Joe Allen and I think that we are a better team when he plays.
However, I find it difficult to see how he will still be here at the start of next season.
I imagine that we will offer him a contract, but on significantly reduced terms. In that case, he may as well go somewhere for more money (Fulham/Bournemouth as a squad player) or go for a sentimental return to Swansea.
Either way, Allen's exit should(?) free up some extra money for wages/new signings?
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Post by pieofpeter on May 14, 2022 15:03:52 GMT
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joe-allen-swansea-city-latest-23959363Sources inside the club have previously indicated that talks over a possible move had already begun, but while initial conversations have indeed happened, sources close to the player claim there is nothing tangible on the table from the Swans, or indeed any other club, at this stage.
Without meaning to state the obvious, Swansea need to make a suitable offer. Allen is certainly open to the idea of a return to his boyhood club, and would perhaps be tempted to turn down better financial offers in favour of a homecoming. But Swansea, or indeed anyone else, will still need to offer something competitive.
Allen is likely to be pondering plenty of offers this summer. Two Premier League clubs, believed to be Bournemouth and Fulham, have seemingly shown an interest, although it's admittedly difficult to see where a 32-year-old Joe Allen would fit in with either side. Indeed, one would think that for all his talents and experience, it's perhaps unlikely that he would be considered first choice at either club.
Clubs in the Championship are understandably keen too, while there is even interest from abroad, with four or five Spanish clubs believed to have made contact, and Allen himself is understood to be open to starting a new adventure on the continent.
Having now sat down with Stoke, it's possible that some of those options might well be discussed further over the next week or so. Good news if their is interest but I think it's his agent trying to get Swansea to do something. At the point now I don't care where he goes as long as he does.
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Post by J-Roar on May 14, 2022 15:16:30 GMT
A terrible signing who has cost the club £18 million in wages. How anyone can think that has been value for money is beyond me.
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2022 16:07:14 GMT
A terrible signing who has cost the club £18 million in wages. How anyone can think that has been value for money is beyond me. Absolutely no one has said that
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Post by J-Roar on May 14, 2022 16:11:16 GMT
A terrible signing who has cost the club £18 million in wages. How anyone can think that has been value for money is beyond me. Absolutely no one has said that How anyone can rate him knowing that is beyond me then!
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2022 16:24:30 GMT
Absolutely no one has said that How anyone can rate him knowing that is beyond me then! It's quite simple The transfer fee and insane wages are not his fault in anyway Personally I want him to stay as he's played well alongside Baker (& will be on sensible money here on in) However if he goes and someone better comes in then that's fine providing they form a good paternership with Baker
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Post by neddy on May 14, 2022 16:53:26 GMT
How anyone can rate him knowing that is beyond me then! It's quite simple The transfer fee and insane wages are not his fault in anyway Personally I want him to stay as he's played well alongside Baker (& will be on sensible money here on in) However if he goes and someone better comes in then that's fine providing they form a good paternership with Baker My only worry is with Baker, Allen and Powell on against Coventry their midfield murdered us?
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 14, 2022 17:03:58 GMT
It's quite simple The transfer fee and insane wages are not his fault in anyway Personally I want him to stay as he's played well alongside Baker (& will be on sensible money here on in) However if he goes and someone better comes in then that's fine providing they form a good paternership with Baker My only worry is with Baker, Allen and Powell on against Coventry their midfield murdered us? Exactly, and we know Powell and Baker are decent at this level. I wonder what the issue is ? Is it: a) Joe Allen b) Shit tactics from the manager c) A combination of Joe Allen and Shit tactics from the manager.
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2022 17:43:24 GMT
My only worry is with Baker, Allen and Powell on against Coventry their midfield murdered us? Exactly, and we know Powell and Baker are decent at this level. I wonder what the issue is ? Is it: a) Joe Allen b) Shit tactics from the manager c) A combination of Joe Allen and Shit tactics from the manager. I don't think there is an issue with Allen, or at least not for some time Played well this season Not amazing, he's not Kanye, but played well Manager has used Allen correctly this season for me Allen, Baker and Powell Thats a good midfield
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 17:49:44 GMT
I like Joe Allen and I think that we are a better team when he plays. However, I find it difficult to see how he will still be here at the start of next season. I imagine that we will offer him a contract, but on significantly reduced terms. In that case, he may as well go somewhere for more money (Fulham/Bournemouth as a squad player) or go for a sentimental return to Swansea. Either way, Allen's exit should(?) free up some extra money for wages/new signings? Our win ratio is better when he doesn't play. He adds nothing to this team.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 14, 2022 17:54:49 GMT
Exactly, and we know Powell and Baker are decent at this level. I wonder what the issue is ? Is it: a) Joe Allen b) Shit tactics from the manager c) A combination of Joe Allen and Shit tactics from the manager. I don't think there is an issue with Allen, or at least not for some time Played well this season Not amazing, he's not Kanye, but played well Manager has used Allen correctly this season for me Allen, Baker and Powell Thats a good midfield So why do we get over run in midfield then when they play?
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Post by scfc75 on May 14, 2022 18:04:03 GMT
Exactly, and we know Powell and Baker are decent at this level. I wonder what the issue is ? Is it: a) Joe Allen b) Shit tactics from the manager c) A combination of Joe Allen and Shit tactics from the manager. I don't think there is an issue with Allen, or at least not for some time Played well this season Not amazing, he's not Kanye, but played well Manager has used Allen correctly this season for me Allen, Baker and Powell Thats a good midfield You’re not saying he’s a gold digger
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2022 18:07:58 GMT
I don't think there is an issue with Allen, or at least not for some time Played well this season Not amazing, he's not Kanye, but played well Manager has used Allen correctly this season for me Allen, Baker and Powell Thats a good midfield So why do we get over run in midfield then when they play? Powell played up front for 20 minutes against Coventry. But yeah it didn’t change when he dropped deep. Allen was poor.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on May 15, 2022 7:06:15 GMT
I don't think there is an issue with Allen, or at least not for some time Played well this season Not amazing, he's not Kanye, but played well Manager has used Allen correctly this season for me Allen, Baker and Powell Thats a good midfield You’re not saying he’s a gold digger I think he's saying this is when 'it all falls down'
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 15, 2022 7:59:17 GMT
I like Joe Allen and I think that we are a better team when he plays. However, I find it difficult to see how he will still be here at the start of next season. I imagine that we will offer him a contract, but on significantly reduced terms. In that case, he may as well go somewhere for more money (Fulham/Bournemouth as a squad player) or go for a sentimental return to Swansea. Either way, Allen's exit should(?) free up some extra money for wages/new signings? Our win ratio is better when he doesn't play. He adds nothing to this team. That would be an interesting piece of data to share as certainly Last season we seemed to struggle when he didn’t play see Blackburn at home as an example
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2022 8:03:03 GMT
9th in PL 9th in PL 9th in PL JOE ALLEN SIGNS 13th in PL Relegation 4 years of Championship shit
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on May 15, 2022 8:08:29 GMT
9th in PL 9th in PL 9th in PL JOE ALLEN SIGNS 13th in PL Relegation 4 years of Championship shit So you’re saying it’s Joe Allen’s fault we got relegated? Talk about agendas, give me strength!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2022 8:11:30 GMT
9th in PL 9th in PL 9th in PL JOE ALLEN SIGNS 13th in PL Relegation 4 years of Championship shit So you’re saying it’s Joe Allen’s fault we got relegated? Talk about agendas, give me strength! I don’t think we’ve had a functioning midfield in the time he’s been here. His arrival pushed Bojan out the team and we basically tried to build a team around him despite him never doing well here. He epitomises the issues at this club. Expensive Can’t do the job he was bought for. So it’s not all down to him but he’s one of the single biggest factors on the pitch. A wretched signing. One of the worst in my lifetime.
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Post by franklin on May 15, 2022 8:34:29 GMT
My only worry is with Baker, Allen and Powell on against Coventry their midfield murdered us? Exactly, and we know Powell and Baker are decent at this level. I wonder what the issue is ? Is it: a) Joe Allen b) Shit tactics from the manager c) A combination of Joe Allen and Shit tactics from the manager. Imho its a lack of physical strength and pace, they are all good "footballers" but they get over run and out fought and with Joe and Powell spend most of their time lying on the turf or simply knocked off the ball easily.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 15, 2022 19:07:45 GMT
Our win ratio is better when he doesn't play. He adds nothing to this team. That would be an interesting piece of data to share as certainly Last season we seemed to struggle when he didn’t play see Blackburn at home as an example What you mean when we tried to play even less physical midfielders? The problem was the squad options for deep lying midfield right from the get go.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 15, 2022 19:10:19 GMT
Exactly, and we know Powell and Baker are decent at this level. I wonder what the issue is ? Is it: a) Joe Allen b) Shit tactics from the manager c) A combination of Joe Allen and Shit tactics from the manager. Imho its a lack of physical strength and pace, they are all good "footballers" but they get over run and out fought and with Joe and Powell spend most of their time lying on the turf or simply knocked off the ball easily. Knocked off the ball sounds a bit too dramatic. Eased of the ball, swept past, leant on, seem more realistic descriptions of what I've seen
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 15, 2022 20:17:15 GMT
How anyone can rate him knowing that is beyond me then! It's quite simple The transfer fee and insane wages are not his fault in anyway Personally I want him to stay as he's played well alongside Baker (& will be on sensible money here on in) However if he goes and someone better comes in then that's fine providing they form a good paternership with Baker Bang on the money lord.... 👍🏼
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 15, 2022 20:27:05 GMT
9th in PL 9th in PL 9th in PL JOE ALLEN SIGNS 13th in PL Relegation 4 years of Championship shit Nothing to do with the rest of the team then in each of those seasons after he signed, just down to Joe!!! 🙄 We lost important players like Arnie, and Shawcross (injury) the season we went down, relying heavily on Shaqiri for inspiration, which didn't always happen!!! After that in the championship, we signed shit upon shit, yet it all still boils down to Allen??? C'mon!!! 🙄
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