England

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Mar 17, 2022 23:17:58 GMT pistol said:

Mar 17, 2022 22:19:42 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Odd isn't it. Walcott was awful for England but constantly picked due to club form. Hateley and Stone going back were often better for England than their clubs. Barnes rarely performed at International level like you say.

Hateley was better for England than his club!! He scored for fun for Rangers, I don’t remember him getting many appearances let alone goals for England. Likewise Stone was v good for Forest

His purple patch for England got him a move to Milan . Maybe slipped your mind. He got 30 odd caps scoring 10 goals think it was. Would really count scoring for Rangers in his latter years.

[The Toxic Avenger]

Mar 17, 2022 18:09:44 GMT lordb said:

Mar 17, 2022 14:25:59 GMT Northy said:

Harry Maguire 😬 players picked on current form

His current form for England is excellent
Understand the concerns re his club form but that's not the only factor
If we had some obvious candidates to replace him then that might be a different story.
Pickford also plays better for England than he does for his club
John Barnes was one of the best players ever but bar the odd game wasn't good for England

Brilliant chapter on Barnes and why he felt he underperformed for England in All Played Out by Pete Davies, probably my favourite football book ever.

[prestwichpotter]

Bursik and Harwood-Bellis in the young 'uns squad...

[knype]

Mar 18, 2022 9:32:54 GMT prestwichpotter said:

Bursik and Harwood-Bellis in the young 'uns squad...

But Bursik can't make our side, with a league 2 quality Bonham taking his spot!

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Etienne Green is a great name



THB hardly done great things to be fair.

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Mar 18, 2022 9:49:26 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Etienne Green is a great name



THB hardly done great things to be fair.

Shocked THB is in there. Can only imagine it’s because he is playing regularly at a relatively high standard rather than playing U23s still.

[FullerMagic]

[foxysgloves]

Mar 18, 2022 9:32:54 GMT prestwichpotter said:

Bursik and Harwood-Bellis in the young 'uns squad...

Is it just me or is that a pretty shit squad. Compared to what’s been coming through in recent years?

[Northy]

Aaron Ramsdale, Tammy Abraham, Reece James, Trent Alexander-Arnold forced to withdraw owing to injury. replaced by Ollie Watkins, Kyle Walker-Peters, Sam Johnstone and Crystal Palace's Tyrick Mitchell

I presume Abraham's bad back has been caused by carrying Mourinho along in Rome

[pistol]

Mar 18, 2022 8:45:24 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Mar 17, 2022 23:17:58 GMT pistol said:

Hateley was better for England than his club!! He scored for fun for Rangers, I don’t remember him getting many appearances let alone goals for England. Likewise Stone was v good for Forest

His purple patch for England got him a move to Milan . Maybe slipped your mind. He got 30 odd caps scoring 10 goals think it was. Would really count scoring for Rangers in his latter years.

Given that he moved to Milan and made his England debut the same year your assertion doesn’t really add up. Or perhaps that slipped your mind

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Google is a great tool

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Mar 22, 2022 18:28:47 GMT pistol said:

Mar 18, 2022 8:45:24 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

His purple patch for England got him a move to Milan . Maybe slipped your mind. He got 30 odd caps scoring 10 goals think it was. Would really count scoring for Rangers in his latter years.

Given that he moved to Milan and made his England debut the same year your assertion doesn’t really add up. Or perhaps that slipped your mind

He moved to Milan AFTER he scored in the Maracana. A result that went pretty global Google is great if used correctly . Good effort though .

[thehartshillbadger]

All this bollocks about Mark Hateley, he was absolutely rubbish!
Now Darius Vassell, he was a striker!😉

[pistol]

Mar 22, 2022 19:23:50 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Mar 22, 2022 18:28:47 GMT pistol said:

Given that he moved to Milan and made his England debut the same year your assertion doesn’t really add up. Or perhaps that slipped your mind

He moved to Milan AFTER he scored in the Maracana. A result that went pretty global Google is great if used correctly . Good effort though .

So you’re calling one goal a purple patch? Drugs are great if used correctly

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Mar 22, 2022 19:45:09 GMT pistol said:

Mar 22, 2022 19:23:50 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

He moved to Milan AFTER he scored in the Maracana. A result that went pretty global Google is great if used correctly . Good effort though .

So you’re calling one goal a purple patch? Drugs are great if used correctly

He was excellent for England at that stage. You are the only person I would prescribe hard, illegal drugs to. After the Brazil game he had the pick of a dozen top clubs to go to. A bit like the World Cup, a player has a good tournament or 2 or 3 games and clubs clamouring for him. Luther B got a move to Italy on the back of 1 game. It's quite simple to grasp if you were around rather than Google.

[thehartshillbadger]

Oooh I love squabble about the attributes of Mark Hateley.
As you were😉

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Mar 22, 2022 20:10:20 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Oooh I love squabble about the attributes of Mark Hateley.
As you were😉

Mark Hateley would have been Pope but refused to cut his flowing receding locks
FACT

[thehartshillbadger]

Mar 22, 2022 20:17:40 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Mar 22, 2022 20:10:20 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Oooh I love squabble about the attributes of Mark Hateley.
As you were😉

Mark Hateley would have been Pope but refused to cut his flowing receding locks
FACT

I’m certain Fletcher models himself on Hateley. Apart from the man bun of course🤔

[thehartshillbadger]

Hateley is one of those weird ones, he spent so much time on Scotland and he looked like a jock and played like a jock. I sometimes forget he isn’t actually a jock!

[thehartshillbadger]

Anyway, Vassell?

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Mar 22, 2022 20:24:30 GMT thehartshillbadger said:

Anyway, Vassell?

Not being English getting dragged into an alternate reality here. He was Sven's fave wasn't he? He was no Cascarino who was as Irish as Toad in the hole from Aunt Bessie but had a name that would have qualified him for the UK on Eurovision....and scored more points

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Mar 22, 2022 19:45:09 GMT pistol said:

Mar 22, 2022 19:23:50 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

He moved to Milan AFTER he scored in the Maracana. A result that went pretty global Google is great if used correctly . Good effort though .

So you’re calling one goal a purple patch? Drugs are great if used correctly

I can vouch for that

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Mar 22, 2022 20:32:47 GMT @vincentvega said:

Mar 22, 2022 19:45:09 GMT pistol said:

So you’re calling one goal a purple patch? Drugs are great if used correctly

I can vouch for that

Jaysus was dreading Vega appearing ...I was sticking up for u lot so calm down 😄

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Mar 22, 2022 20:34:38 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Mar 22, 2022 20:32:47 GMT @vincentvega said:

I can vouch for that

Jaysus was dreading Vega appearing ...I was sticking up for u lot so calm down 😄

I was sticking up for drugs

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Mar 22, 2022 20:35:53 GMT @vincentvega said:

Mar 22, 2022 20:34:38 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Jaysus was dreading Vega appearing ...I was sticking up for u lot so calm down 😄

I was sticking up for drugs

Drugs are bad. ...m'kay

[lordb]

Mar 22, 2022 20:08:43 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Mar 22, 2022 19:45:09 GMT pistol said:

So you’re calling one goal a purple patch? Drugs are great if used correctly

He was excellent for England at that stage. You are the only person I would prescribe hard, illegal drugs to. After the Brazil game he had the pick of a dozen top clubs to go to. A bit like the World Cup, a player has a good tournament or 2 or 3 games and clubs clamouring for him. Luther B got a move to Italy on the back of 1 game. It's quite simple to grasp if you were around rather than Google.

And yet Mark Chamberlain who set up that goal and was generally very impressive indeed got to stay at Stoke just in time for The Holocaust season...

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Mar 22, 2022 21:11:13 GMT lordb said:

Mar 22, 2022 20:08:43 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

He was excellent for England at that stage. You are the only person I would prescribe hard, illegal drugs to. After the Brazil game he had the pick of a dozen top clubs to go to. A bit like the World Cup, a player has a good tournament or 2 or 3 games and clubs clamouring for him. Luther B got a move to Italy on the back of 1 game. It's quite simple to grasp if you were around rather than Google.

And yet Mark Chamberlain who set up that goal and was generally very impressive indeed got to stay at Stoke just in time for The Holocaust season...

He was voted player of that tour I think a loss to Uruguay...2-0 or 2-1, Joe in Oz will put me right and a 0-0 in Chile.

[Chewbacca the Wookie]

I really like the look of Ramsey from Villa. Don’t think he’ll quite make the squad but looks a real talent and is at the right club at this stage of his career.

[FullerMagic]

Think there's a max of 2 Euro teams in each group, so nightmare group could be getting Germany, Senegal and..maybe Peru?

[prestwichpotter]

If you're in Pot 3 or 4 and draw Qatar you're laughing.

Unless the refs are on the take like in South Korea....