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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 15, 2022 10:31:02 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
F—- off
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 15, 2022 10:32:06 GMT
The world is becoming a complete and utter joke. Where is the line drawn? Where does this shit stop? |
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Post by klingon on Feb 15, 2022 10:36:39 GMT
The world is becoming a complete and utter joke. Where is the line drawn? Where does this shit stop? What exactly, is the problem? Why would names be an issue? Let people call themselves what thay prefer. Why am I even fucking posting this? |
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 15, 2022 11:19:51 GMT
Where? When? Told by who?
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Post by salopstick on Feb 15, 2022 11:42:37 GMT
Where? When? Told by who? It’s an article in the telegraph - reported by the mail www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10513149/amp/No-Sir-Miss-charity-calls-children-use-gender-free-terms-like-Teacher.htmlIn a session funded by the National Education Union (NEU), Dr Elly Barnes told teachers they ought to be moving towards a ‘gender-free model’ in education. Dr Barnes is chief executive of charity Educate and Celebrate, which spreads positive messaging about LGBT acceptance in schools and provides training to educators across the country. In clips of the training, Dr Barnes was seen suggesting that ‘male’ and ‘female’ categories be removed from school application forms and that school uniforms could be gender-free. One attendee questioned whether the phraseology would affect terms such as ‘Sir’ or ‘Miss’, which pupils often to use to get the attention of their teachers. A female teacher, who wished to remain anonymous, branded the session as ‘propaganda for trans activists’ and told The Telegraph she thought it was against the Department for Education (DfE) guidelines. She said: ‘Teachers will take what this woman says as fact because the training was organised by the NEU and they’re not going to question their union. |
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Post by riverman on Feb 15, 2022 12:17:29 GMT
The world is becoming a complete and utter joke. Where is the line drawn? Where does this shit stop? What exactly, is the problem? Why would names be an issue? Let people call themselves what thay prefer. Why am I even fucking posting this? You're right in what you say but the issue is the fact that it's been made an issue. Leave sir and miss as the default and just let the individual teacher tell his/her/their class what he/she/they want to be called without making anything obligatory. |
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Post by noustie on Feb 15, 2022 12:53:05 GMT
There is a huge responsibility on teachers as they’re basically the gatekeepers of the young minds of the future. Children aren’t tolerant or intolerant but essentially believe what they are spoon fed particularly in a Primary school environment so stuff like this abuses that privilege for me. Bypassing the parents and sneaking it through the backdoor is an insidious methodology of progressing this particular view point that to me doesn’t seem to stand up particularly well to open scrutiny.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 15, 2022 12:55:38 GMT
Where? When? Told by who? It’s an article in the telegraph - reported by the mail www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10513149/amp/No-Sir-Miss-charity-calls-children-use-gender-free-terms-like-Teacher.htmlIn a session funded by the National Education Union (NEU), Dr Elly Barnes told teachers they ought to be moving towards a ‘gender-free model’ in education. Dr Barnes is chief executive of charity Educate and Celebrate, which spreads positive messaging about LGBT acceptance in schools and provides training to educators across the country. In clips of the training, Dr Barnes was seen suggesting that ‘male’ and ‘female’ categories be removed from school application forms and that school uniforms could be gender-free. One attendee questioned whether the phraseology would affect terms such as ‘Sir’ or ‘Miss’, which pupils often to use to get the attention of their teachers. A female teacher, who wished to remain anonymous, branded the session as ‘propaganda for trans activists’ and told The Telegraph she thought it was against the Department for Education (DfE) guidelines. She said: ‘Teachers will take what this woman says as fact because the training was organised by the NEU and they’re not going to question their union. I have to say this story has genuinely shocked me......the NEU actually discussing in person teaching rather than trying to find reasons to close the schools. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 15, 2022 13:10:40 GMT
There is a huge responsibility on teachers as they’re basically the gatekeepers of the young minds of the future. Children aren’t tolerant or intolerant but essentially believe what they are spoon fed particularly in a Primary school environment so stuff like this abuses that privilege for me. Bypassing the parents and sneaking it through the backdoor is an insidious methodology of progressing this particular view point that to me doesn’t seem to stand up particularly well to open scrutiny. This is how it works. Small little steps and wait for the backlash. The backlash dies down and then they take a few more steps, repeat repeat until they are taking bigger steps and then running. The sad thing is the general population is constantly divided with BS media reporting and the majority of people just shut their ears to what is going on. It is a concern to think of the world we could be seeing in 20 or 30 years. Canada has just invoked the Emergencies Act. They can now freeeze personal bank accounts. Have a real good think about that...... |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 15, 2022 13:29:06 GMT
What exactly, is the problem? Why would names be an issue? Let people call themselves what thay prefer. Why am I even fucking posting this? You're right in what you say but the issue is the fact that it's been made an issue. Leave sir and miss as the default and just let the individual teacher tell his/her/their class what he/she/they want to be called without making anything obligatory. Exactly this. Aren't gay, lesbian or bi teachers either male or female anyway- which is how they define who they're attracted to in the first place? Likewise, if you want to be addressed by post as Mx rather than Mr or Mrs, put your request in writing (just as you would if you were assuming the title of Dr or Rev) and let the majority of the population carry on being addressed as they'd probably prefer to be. An inclusive and diverse solution for everyone! |
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Post by lordb on Feb 15, 2022 13:32:53 GMT
It’s an article in the telegraph - reported by the mail www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10513149/amp/No-Sir-Miss-charity-calls-children-use-gender-free-terms-like-Teacher.htmlIn a session funded by the National Education Union (NEU), Dr Elly Barnes told teachers they ought to be moving towards a ‘gender-free model’ in education. Dr Barnes is chief executive of charity Educate and Celebrate, which spreads positive messaging about LGBT acceptance in schools and provides training to educators across the country. In clips of the training, Dr Barnes was seen suggesting that ‘male’ and ‘female’ categories be removed from school application forms and that school uniforms could be gender-free. One attendee questioned whether the phraseology would affect terms such as ‘Sir’ or ‘Miss’, which pupils often to use to get the attention of their teachers. A female teacher, who wished to remain anonymous, branded the session as ‘propaganda for trans activists’ and told The Telegraph she thought it was against the Department for Education (DfE) guidelines. She said: ‘Teachers will take what this woman says as fact because the training was organised by the NEU and they’re not going to question their union. I have to say this story has genuinely shocked me......the NEU actually discussing in person teaching rather than trying to find reasons to close the schools. So it's a suggestion made by a charity No one is telling anyone anything Shitbin |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 15, 2022 13:43:09 GMT
I have to say this story has genuinely shocked me......the NEU actually discussing in person teaching rather than trying to find reasons to close the schools. So it's a suggestion made by a charity No one is telling anyone anything Shitbin Invited by the NEU at an event paid for by the NEU. Can you join dots............ |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 15, 2022 13:49:03 GMT
So it's a suggestion made by a charity No one is telling anyone anything Shitbin Invited by the NEU at an event paid for by the NEU. Can you join dots............ No, let's go along with lord. He's arbitrarily decided that this isn't worthy of discussion, who are we to question him? 😉 |
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Post by noustie on Feb 15, 2022 13:51:41 GMT
There is a huge responsibility on teachers as they’re basically the gatekeepers of the young minds of the future. Children aren’t tolerant or intolerant but essentially believe what they are spoon fed particularly in a Primary school environment so stuff like this abuses that privilege for me. Bypassing the parents and sneaking it through the backdoor is an insidious methodology of progressing this particular view point that to me doesn’t seem to stand up particularly well to open scrutiny. This is how it works. Small little steps and wait for the backlash. The backlash dies down and then they take a few more steps, repeat repeat until they are taking bigger steps and then running. The sad thing is the general population is constantly divided with BS media reporting and the majority of people just shut their ears to what is going on. It is a concern to think of the world we could be seeing in 20 or 30 years. Canada has just invoked the Emergencies Act. They can now freeeze personal bank accounts. Have a real good think about that...... It's like when folk took to Twitter to claim EHRC are transphobic knowing most folk can't be arsed to find out what they were actually saying in the report. This details it out and seems reasonible in its stance but how many folk are actually bothered enough to read into it: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/what-did-the-ehrc-report-actually |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 15, 2022 13:54:47 GMT
Invited by the NEU at an event paid for by the NEU. Can you join dots............ No, let's go along with lord. He's arbitrarily decided that this isn't worthy of discussion, who are we to question him? 😉 He will wake up in 20 or 30 years and wonder what the fuck happened to the world. Then again there will be no world in 30 years as it's going to be a fireball with 150 degree average temps and raging plagues and if that don't get us the Russians and Chinese will eventually hate each other and will be slinging nukes all over the place........probably, could happen......  |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 15, 2022 15:16:46 GMT
When I first started teaching (1964) Parents Evening was described as "quaking before the beaks" whereas when I retired it was "why hasn't my Johnny got an A?" My biggest gripe is grade inflation. I was not bothered whether the students called me sir or used my surname.
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Post by lordb on Feb 15, 2022 16:44:09 GMT
Invited by the NEU at an event paid for by the NEU. Can you join dots............ No, let's go along with lord. He's arbitrarily decided that this isn't worthy of discussion, who are we to question him? 😉 all I'm saying is the thread title implies it's something coming from govt when actually it's not |
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Post by lordb on Feb 15, 2022 16:44:45 GMT
No, let's go along with lord. He's arbitrarily decided that this isn't worthy of discussion, who are we to question him? 😉 He will wake up in 20 or 30 years and wonder what the fuck happened to the world. Then again there will be no world in 30 years as it's going to be a fireball with 150 degree average temps and raging plagues and if that don't get us the Russians and Chinese will eventually hate each other and will be slinging nukes all over the place........probably, could happen...... I wake up every day thinking that... |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 15, 2022 16:56:17 GMT
No, let's go along with lord. He's arbitrarily decided that this isn't worthy of discussion, who are we to question him? 😉 all I'm saying is the thread title implies it's something coming from govt when actually it's not Really🤔It would say teachers told by the government to drop sir and miss if so😄 |
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Post by teenagefanclub on Feb 15, 2022 16:58:49 GMT
So it's a suggestion made by a charity No one is telling anyone anything Shitbin Invited by the NEU at an event paid for by the NEU. Can you join dots............ Yes ____________ Easy |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 15, 2022 17:12:51 GMT
No, let's go along with lord. He's arbitrarily decided that this isn't worthy of discussion, who are we to question him? 😉 all I'm saying is the thread title implies it's something coming from govt when actually it's not The fact that it wouldn't be much of a shock if it does get rolled out says a lot though. |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 15, 2022 22:35:35 GMT
To be honest I got in some shit at school when I called a teacher mr Smith and he said no you address me as sir and I said have you been knighted then, it didn't go well so I have no problem at all with dropping sir and miss.
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